Man does black face for Kanye West costume because this shit will never end

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Beefy

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Fucking appalled people are saying this isn't blackface. Like WTF. And now we got white people tryna tell us that we shouldn't be offended?! This thread is amazing. Best part is people are giving concrete evidence on how this is racist but they don't wanna hear it but instead use Dave chappelle as an example...yet clearly that example they use goes above their heads. This is just getting ridiculous.

Sad thing is I doubt the racist shit being spewed out is just from white people. It's like people haven't studied history in school.
 
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I absolutely get why it's a big no-no. All I'm saying, is I see the other side too. In an ideal society, it wouldn't be racist and would be seen as light-hearted fun in the same way that cross-dressing, blacks painted as whites is seen.

Some people are just naive, it doesn't, by any stretch of the word, make them racist by default.
We aren't in an ideal society

In our society it's bad so don't do it
 

collige

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I would be more inclined to believe this guy's BS if he put any actual effort into looking like Kanye. Instead, the only thing he paid any attention to whatsoever is the blackface itself while the rest of the costume is just some generic trash "gangsta rapper" outfit that we see every Halloween. His wife's quote about "being confused for an actual black person" give the whole thing away entirely. He's not supposed to look like some black dude, he's supposed to look like Kanye!

That's not blackface.

This:



is blackface.

This is just a halfassed Halloween costume.

People just want to be enraged about something.

The two aren't mutually exclusive.
 
I absolutely get why it's a big no-no. All I'm saying, is I see the other side too. In an ideal society, it wouldn't be racist and would be seen as light-hearted fun in the same way that cross-dressing, blacks painted as whites is seen.

Some people are just naive, it doesn't, by any stretch of the word, make them racist by default.

What does this even mean?

"In an ideal world, the Nazis would have been an improv comedy troupe."
 

User1608

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SMH... We have to google if things are racist? Self-reflection, and thinking, "Is this opinion hateful?" Isn't enough? I just...ugh.

We will never heal the societal wounds of past and present racism, real racism, by avoiding honest discourse, walking on egg-shells, and googling what our opinion should be on things.

There is nothing that is so cut and dry. Saying something is racist, as fact, up to no debate, is pretty gross to me.... It really just impedes progress in my opinion.
There's never a good reason to engage in blackface, at all.

As for the bolded, people explaining why blackface is offensive to others really shouldn't be hard to grasp. It dehumanizes and belittles black people to a stereotype. That doesn't impede progress, and if those individuals still refuse to see why that is bad, it will create implications beyond them being ignorant, and they shouldn't be surprised when the rest of us look at them in a bad light. We already have posters in here trying to deflect after the mass bannings occurred. I wonder why.
 

atr0cious

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In an ideal society
Too bad we don't live in one. We have half of the US voting against their own interest, and the other half gerrymandered into not mattering. But please go on about how a racist practice should continue.
I agree.

Let's also try to understand people that might not get that and not just suddenly jump to, "RACIST!! BAN THEM!"
This happens because you all never take the time to understand us or our feelings. You have to rush in and explain why we shouldn't feel certain ways, and then get hurt when we tell you to fuck off when you're saying the same thing the last person got banned for.
 
If the white face mask is not racist then why should a black face mask be racist? Aren't blacks and whites equal? Aren't all races equal?

You're well aware of the history behind blackface.

Frankly you're just trolling.

And people who ignore the history and try and play this innocent I don't understand crap, are probably the biggest bigots on the planet.
 

Bronx-Man

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I absolutely get why it's a big no-no. All I'm saying, is I see the other side too. In an ideal society, it wouldn't be racist and would be seen as light-hearted fun in the same way that cross-dressing, blacks painted as whites is seen.

Some people are just naive, it doesn't, by any stretch of the word, make them racist by default.
That's a very idealistic point of view you have, and I do have respect for that. I just personally don't think it's worth it.
 

RELIGHT

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I won't even give my opinion on this given that so many people were banned for extremely mild comments so let me just give this example that happened in my country

This was pretty common in brazilian comedy shows and people were alway ok with it. This was never taken as a racist act here, the most famous one was Wellington Muniz imitating Pelé:

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There was recently a famous brazilian singer (Michel Teló) who painted his face black as a campaign against racism and faced huge backlash. It was the first time ever I saw this happening in Brazil and it surprised me considering people here were always ok with comedians doing it:

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The most interesting fact were the arguments used to criticize him, and it revolved around it being extremely racist in USA. For anyone curious about what the text says, its:

''Against all kinds of prejudice. Beautiful initiative from my friend @charles_woods. We are together friend!

I invite my friends, @beluttiooficial, @fernando and my cutie pie @tatafersoza to join this chain of goodness together with me. For a world more equal.

Take your picture and challenge your friends.

#weareallone #paintyourface #onlyone''

I don't think any of that is a good idea, well intended or not.

Also, why do people continue to post RDJ from tropic thunder when these discussions come up? "But you're ok with this and not that...." The logic is astounding. They realize the context within the movie right? And also that it's a movie right.....Right?....Oh Christ...

There is a lot of unease occurring in the US right now within minorities. You have nut jobs at Trump rally's assaulting Latinos without consequence. You have dozens of unarmed, non violent, black kids being killed by police, you have an entire political party that has "questioned the origins" of a sitting president for the past 7 years.

Let me say this plainly, what the guy doing in the OP is not ok. He doesn't get a "pass" or "degree of understanding" because of the historic and cultural significance of blackface. Does it make him a racist? Well maybe not in and of itself. But you can certainly call it ignorant at the least. I feel over the past several years now, there has been a steady build up of racial tension in the US created by these hateful people and groups. They are of the same ilk that posted billboards saying Blue Lives Matter. As if Black Lives Matter is a hate group or a "versus" group. There was a Latino man was at a trump rally holding a sign that simply said "equality". Do you know what happened to him? He was thrown to the floor and dragged out of the building by a random rally goer while the entire crowd chanted "USA".

Please understand what's happened and what's happening in our world right now.
 

Who

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What does this even mean?

"In an ideal world, the Nazis would have been an improv comedy troupe."

In an ideal society black face would be seen as light-hearted and funny as crossdressing is seen. Really not that hard to get what i was getting at. But no, yeah, let's bring Nazis into this.
 
No, we just have different opinions on what's racist and what not.

Maybe in USA black-face is considered racist but in my country it sure isn't...
Its still really incensitive to say something is not racist just because the history behind it didn't happen in your country. Just because it happened somewhere else doesn't mean it never happened.
 

Klarion

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You're well aware of the history behind blackface.

Frankly you're just trolling.

And people who ignore the history and try and play this innocent I don't understand crap, are probably the biggest bigots on the planet.

No, no I'm not, to me it's just a paint for face... or mask of black face, like there are masks of white faces or asian faces.
 
Been checking in on this thread every so often and I have to say guys, I need to get off this ride! I'm gonna be sick. I can't spin around this much without...without..blehhhhhh.
 

Who

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Too bad we don't live in one. We have half of the US voting against their own interest, and the other half gerrymandered into not mattering. But please go on about how a racist practice should continue.

What in the flying fuck? How does me defending people who might not see things the way I do = yeah people should blackface, I support the practice.

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm out. I just... I can't.
 

Herbs

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Been checking in on this thread every so often and I have to say guys, I need to get off this ride! I'm gonna be sick. I can't spin around this much without...without..blehhhhhh.

lol

What in the flying fuck? How does me defending people who might not see things the way I do = yeah people should blackface, I support the practice.

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm out. I just... I can't.

you're not a victim.
 
Blackface Bingo:

- That's not racist.
- That's not real blackface, blackface was done with a solid black color and done in minstrel shows.
- Get over it, all that stuff happened years ago.
- But what about the movie White Chicks?
- But what about when Robert Downey Jr dressed up as a black man in Tropic Thunder?
- Zwarte Piet/Sinterklaas.
- It's different in this part of the world, blackface doesn't have the same racial undertones here.
 
That's how it always works. Why try empathizing wih someone when you can just use anecdotes to justify ignorance?

Sad thing is I doubt the racist shit being spewed out is just from white people. It's like people haven't studied history in school.

It's pathetic that these people saying all this (whatever skin color they are) are incapable of trying to see through the perspective of those being humiliated through blackface. I mean, do you not understand how it feels to be mocked through painting your face?! It fucking dehumanizes you. It's like you said Bronx-Man they lack empathy and it's just..disgusting. The couple in question here have their safe space in white suburbia to do this shit and these posters saying this racist crap about blackface "acceptance" relate to this couple since they most likely see themselves through them. Furthermore, so long as people like the posters who were banned don't see a problem with this issue and hell, ARGUE that black people like myself shouldn't be offended by this, racism will thrive.
 
No, no I'm not, to me it's just a paint for face... or mask of black face, like there are masks of white faces or asian faces.


Well I suggest you get some understanding of the subject matter. The fact that you're willfully ignoring that, suggests to me that you're another racist trying to cause shit.
 
In an ideal society black face would be seen as light-hearted and funny as crossdressing is seen. Really not that hard to get what i was getting at. But no, yeah, let's bring Nazis into this.

In an ideal society black people would not have been fucked over for five centuries and running but here we are
 
Am I really in a thread where white people are telling black people to stop being offended by blackface? Is this really where your going to make your stand defending fucking blackface. Goddamn son

And even some white people telling black people they should be offended even though they aren't. We're hitting all the gamuts today.
 

Mesousa

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This thread is just 6 or so posts repeated over and over.

These threads are always the same six posts, and we will have the exact same thread in a month or so when somebody realizes zwarte piet still exists in the Netherlands with the same six posts of "But mah cultures!" and "and Europe-gaf calls us racist" type of shit.
 
This thread is just 6 or so posts repeated over and over.

because there's 2 sides of the coin, those that find it racist and those that don't(its usually us europeans).

I get it that blackface is racist(thanks to gaf) but do I think the guy in the picture is racist and hates black people? No


But he should've known better living in america.
 

Beefy

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Bish will have fun later.


People from the UK saying they don't get blackface is racist, clearly haven't listened/read the news in 10+ years.
 

atr0cious

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What in the flying fuck? How does me defending people who might not see things the way I do = yeah people should blackface, I support the practice.

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm out. I just... I can't.
I love it. You get upset at being offended over an accusation, but won't get upset over the actual issue of racism. Bye.
 

Klarion

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I don't like the idea of single group of people being holy cows or whatever.

Like white-face is OK, black face isn't!? Come on, everyone's equal, let's stick to that.
 

Klarion

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Well I suggest you get some understanding of the subject matter. The fact that you're willfully ignoring that, suggests to me that you're another racist trying to cause shit.

Calling me racist just because I see nothing offensive in white person painting their face black is quite silly...

Do you know what racism is? Nope.
 

atr0cious

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I don't like the idea of single group of people being holy cows or whatever.

Like white-face is OK, black face isn't!? Come on, everyone's equal, let's stick to that.
Please go to a comedy club and start telling jokes about nazis killing Jews, I'm sure you'll have no issues.
 
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