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[Shadoken]

That makes sense. SF4 was odd though, they went aggressively heavy on new characters early on with Home and Super and then slowed down.

17 characters Arcade, Jul 2008
7 months later +8 characters, Feb 2009 (Home)
14 months later +10 characters, Apr 2010 (Super)
Then over a year for AE to add just 4 and three years for Ultra to add just 5.

6 per year will take us nearly 5 years to hit the amount that Ultra has. I hope you are right that they ramp it up later. But I'd prefer something where you get a steady trickle and then a big dump once a year. February release date, so do a new character every 3 months except for on each February anniversary where they instead drop 6 at once alongside a major balance patch. That'd be 9 a year.

Yea its actually surprisingly low , and here I was expecting 1 character every month and no characters on EVO month and Capcom Cup.

I dont see how they can make SSF4 or even AE,USF4 level of money by just releasing 6 characters a year.

USF and AE sold around 500k at retail and a ton of DLC , SSF4 was at 2m+. Honestly how much can they make off 6 characters which are also free if you collect enough points. I suppose they are going to be ridiculously pricey , because 2 months seems like enough time to save up dat fight money.

But that could change if they did Super,AE level upgrades every year with stuff like new stages,mechanics,characters..etc as a giant update. Even other Mobas do this , with a pretty big patch that changes a lot of things.

 

[Holy Order Sol]

Yeah, red underpants.....fucking godlike

Yes.

 

[direct_quote]

Yea its actually surprisingly low , and here I was expecting 1 character every month and no characters on EVO month and Capcom Cup.

I dont see how they can make SSF4 or even AE,USF4 level of money by just releasing 6 characters a year.

USF and AE sold around 500k at retail and a ton of DLC , SSF4 was at 2m+. Honestly how much can they make off 6 characters which are also free if you collect enough points. I suppose they are going to be ridiculously pricey , because 2 months seems like enough time to save up dat fight money.

But that could change if they did Super,AE level upgrades every year with stuff like new stages,mechanics,characters..etc as a giant update. Even other Mobas do this , with a pretty big patch that changes a lot of things.

Maybe they will ramp it up the next year? Plus they going to milk those costume packs (which I assume you'll have to pay for, b/c Capcom said all gameplay related dlc was earn-able, not cosmetic).

 

[Scotia]

Yes.

You seem to have left out the part of my post where I was being saracastic.

 

[kirblar]

For DLC Rd 2, these are the characters in the top 30 left (leaving off Q and E. Ryu.)

3- Akuma
6- Sakura
9- Sagat
15-Cody
17-Poison
18-Dudley
20-Blanka
22-Makoto
25-Fei Long
26-Guy
28-Ingrid
29-Elena
30-Yun

Highly likely we see at least one of the top 3 shoto-style characters in.

 

[Mik317]

Fighting Game characters are hard to make and the tech has gone up for this game so comparing it to SFIV is pointless.

So that, on top of balance and other DLC...yeah 6 sounds about right.

 

[SimSimIV]

My breakdown of the Dhalsim trailer:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=183186974&postcount=315

Yoga.

 

[Troubled Bat]

I knew it was him, I just couldn't see him

Can't unseen Haggar... I'm going to be so disappointed.

 

[Scotia]

For DLC Rd 2, these are the characters in the top 30 left (leaving off Q and E. Ryu.)

Highly likely we see at least one of the top 3 shoto-style characters in.

We literally saw all of these guys in SF4 (minus Ingrid). I really hope Capcom don't ultimately bring back nearly everyone from 4. Leave some behind for godsake. I'm not saying don't bring any of them back, but I'd rather have more characters as DLC who weren't in four than more characters as DLC who were in 4.

 

[direct_quote]

We literally saw all of these guys in SF4 (minus Ingrid). I really hope Capcom don't ultimately bring back nearly everyone from 4. Leave some behind for godsake. I'm not saying don't bring any of them back, but I'd rather have more characters as DLC who weren't in four than more characters as DLC who were in 4.

At this point Capcom is going to put up characters that will sell DLC. And after adding Nash, Karin, Mika, (Urien and Alex down the line), the list is getting pretty slim of popular characters that did not appear in SF4. Let alone the large install base for SF4 a lot of people want their main back, so I don't expect any surprises for a long time....

 

[Numb]

Can't unseen Haggar... I'm going to be so disappointed.

Wish it were him.

 

[Scotia]

At this point Capcom is going to put up characters that will sell DLC. And after adding Nash, Karin, Mika, (Urien and Alex down the line), the list is getting pretty slim of popular characters that did not appear in SF4. Let alone the large install base for SF4 a lot of people want their main back, so I don't expect any surprises for a long time....

Yeah you're right, unfortunately. I just don't know how much further I can go with this series if they keep bringing back the same people again and again.

 

[KingBroly]

I can't say I'm a fan of Dhalsim's redesign. The turban and beard...yeah...feels forced and not really well thought out.

 

[Crisium]

I can't say I'm a fan of Dhalsim's redesign. The turban and beard...yeah...feels forced and not really well thought out.

It makes him seem more human and authentic. I'm all for it.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Yeah you're right, unfortunately. I just don't know how much further I can go with this series if they keep bringing back the same people again and again.

We just got Karin, Mika, and freaking Birdie and Alex and Urien were basically just confirmed as well.

I can't say I'm a fan of Dhalsim's redesign. The turban and beard...yeah...feels forced and not really well thought out.

Gotta agree, but he looks fun to play as.

It makes him seem more human and authentic. I'm all for it.

I think it makes him look more like a cartoon character (like Santa Claus mixed with the Sultan from Aladdin) but even if you were right I think that misses the point. My favorite thing about Dhalsim was that he looked like death but was one of the most kindhearted people in the series.

 

[kirblar]

At this point Capcom is going to put up characters that will sell DLC. And after adding Nash, Karin, Mika, (Urien and Alex down the line), the list is getting pretty slim of popular characters that did not appear in SF4. Let alone the large install base for SF4 a lot of people want their main back, so I don't expect any surprises for a long time....

Yup. SF4 actually brought in most of the high-request characters by the end, so a lot will be reruns by necessity.

 

[Scotia]

Yup. SF4 actually brought in most of the high-request characters by the end, so a lot will be reruns by necessity.

And that's Capcom's fault to be honest. They're either going to be forced to try and make obscure, unused characters popular, shorten rosters down heavily so that only a select few will ever make it into the game to prevent character fatigue or keep dragging out the dead horse and kick it some more and risk potentially crashing the franchise into the ground one day. Bringing out the same SF4 characters will only work for so long.

 

[KingBroly]

It makes him seem more human and authentic. I'm all for it.

Bearded Ryu feels more human and authentic, while keeping in line with his prior design. This just really seems to disregard that.

 

[spazchicken]

How many more characters to be announced or is this it?

Just ordered an octagonal gate. Super excited for this.

 

[Scotia]

How many more characters to be announced or is this it?

Just ordered an octagonal gate. Super excited for this.

There's one more new character left to be revealed then that's it for the main roster.

 

[CoyoteSpitfire]

How many more characters to be announced or is this it?

Just ordered an octagonal gate. Super excited for this.

One more. It's going to be a new character too.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Bearded Ryu feels more human and authentic, while keeping in line with his prior design. This just really seems to disregard that.

It's perfectly in Dhalsims character to just grow a beard and pit on a turban to show that he's older. You'd think this would end horribly because both of those things are flammable, but how else would we know that he's older?

 

[Hours Left]

Eh
Im in the seth, pants only camp.I think that looks rad. Like some rugal shit.

Pants only is worse than shirt only for Urien.

Clothes are for peasants anyway.

Didnt all people wanted Alex >.>

Yes we do. And we're getting him! 👍🏼

For DLC Rd 2, these are the characters in the top 30 left (leaving off Q and E. Ryu.)

Highly likely we see at least one of the top 3 shoto-style characters in.

Sagat, Poison and Ingrid please. Everyone else to the back of the line.

 

[Eolz]

For DLC Rd 2, these are the characters in the top 30 left (leaving off Q and E. Ryu.)

Highly likely we see at least one of the top 3 shoto-style characters in.

Why are you leaving off Q?! D:
More chances than Guy and Ingrid to come back.

But yeah, Akuma is a given, Sakura is highly likely too.
Hoping for Sagat and Poison after that.

 

[biosnake20]

I can't believe the King was left out of year one dlc. How dare they.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Where's Retsu? Are they really going to just give us the same rehashed characters like Juri, Urien, and Guile?

 

[direct_quote]

Why are you leaving off Q?! D:
More chances than Guy and Ingrid to come back.

But yeah, Akuma is a given, Sakura is highly likely too.
Hoping for Sagat and Poison after that.

Capcom will probably pair Cody and Guy up just like SFxT... Plus Guy has more chances than Ingrid because he's been in SFA1,SFA2,SFA3, SF4 , and SFxT

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

Has this been posted ? Dont sue me if a gaffer did it xD

its from reddit

 

[PadWarrior]

Roster feels weird without Sagat.

 

[Alfredo]

I figured it out.

 

[Beelzebufo]

I figured it out.

Scorpion again? Talk about a hype killer.

 

[mbpm1]

I'd play Napstablook.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Q is coming back I feel it.

 

[enzo_gt]

IMO:

1. Balrog
- Clear from unique hair and pose

2. Guile
- Ambiguous, but pose is suggestive, Dudley is a distant 2nd guess

3. Akuma
- Ambiguous, could be any character in a robe, I'd put Urien as a 2nd guess

4. No idea, literally a crapshoot to suggest anyone.

5. Ingrid
- Super ambiguous, hair/collar-esque thing puts a wrench in predictability cause it can be any female, or even male, with a new hairstyle. The picture with lines drawn in is pretty lol for this, essentially outlining Chun-Li and calling it Juri. My next up guesses are Viper, Rose, and Juri.

6. Alex
- Relatively clear from boots and knee pads matching SFV model.

 

[mbpm1]

No its napstablook

 

[Lulubop]

IMO:

1. Balrog
- Clear from unique hair and pose

2. Guile
- Ambiguous, but pose is suggestive, Dudley is a distant 2nd guess

3. Akuma
- Ambiguous, could be any character in a robe, I'd put Urien as a 2nd guess

4. No idea, literally a crapshoot to suggest anyone.

5. Ingrid
- Super ambiguous, hair/collar-esque thing puts a wrench in predictability cause it can be any female, or even male, with a new hairstyle. The picture with lines drawn in is pretty lol for this, essentially outlining Chun-Li and calling it Juri. My next up guesses are Viper, Rose, and Juri.

6. Alex
- Relatively clear from boots and knee pads matching SFV model.

I mean we know the 6 already. With the amount of work put into them it seems unlikely any of them will miss the cut

 

[Zombegoast]

I think Juri and Charlie will get a long just fine.

 

[direct_quote]

Honestly I think Alex and Urien will come first. Then Ibuki and Juri, then Guile and Boxer..

 

[Rentahamster]

I think everyone was expecting him to be by the books but I think we were all pleasantly surprised.

Everyone? Naw. With maybe the exception of Ryu, Chun, and Gief, none of the others are "by the books" at all. And even then, those guys aren't that "by the books" either.

Why would Sim be any different? Especially given the devs' previous discussions on their game design philosophies coming into SF5.

 

[Beelzebufo]

Everyone? Naw. With maybe the exception of Ryu, Chun, and Gief, none of the others are "by the books" at all. And even then, those guys aren't that "by the books" either.

Why would Sim be any different? Especially given the devs' previous discussions on their game design philosophies coming into SF5.

Cammy's basically the same too, yeah?

 

[Rentahamster]

Cammy's basically the same too, yeah?

Eh, yeah I guess. I didn't really pay to much attention to her though.

 

[Einchy]

Found Chun-li's new alt costume.

We beards now, bois.

 

[Troubled Bat]

Is that Ladybeard? xD

 

[J-Tier]

I went from hating the shit out of Dhalsim to actually liking him thanks to his aesthetic and utility changes. I was thinking how boring of a reveal he'd be following the reveal of Zangeif.

Overall I'm pretty happy, though I wish now that Zangeif was changed up in a similar manner.

 

[Bob White]

Looks like cross tekken Paul got his hair cut against his will.

 

[Troubled Bat]

It's a good thing that Ryu isn't blonde at all. lol

 

[Numb]

Looks like cross tekken Paul got his hair cut against his will.

lol
Didn't like Ryu use Paul's body in what little we saw of Tekken X SF?
They just replaced his head.

 

[Qvoth]

Looks like cross tekken Paul got his hair cut against his will.

jesus christ he looks terrible there

 

[Tesseract]

so, how'd cross play function during the last test?

 

[jett]

Seriously, what's up with this game's backgrounds. It's like they forgot about them when creating the characters and didn't have enough graphics left for them.

That fucking texture of something right in the middle of the screen. Let's not forget all the NPCs are animated at 30fps.

They're all(except Karin's, I guess) suffering from a serious case of hideous. Not just technically, but aesthetically too. For months some people haven been telling us that they will be upgraded, but no such upgrades have been detected. Even the PC version is not any better.