Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Yeah I played it but don't remember the story much. I'll go check that out. I remember TMCC had the Halo show thingy too, right? Maybe it's a better idea to just watch a video on YouTube of everything I need to know.
Halo 5: Guardians |OT| The Trials of Osiris
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Yeah I played it but don't remember the story much. I'll go check that out. I remember TMCC had the Halo show thingy too, right? Maybe it's a better idea to just watch a video on YouTube of everything I need to know.
The pace of the game is so unrelenting.
Also, the
make for some impressive, impressive visuals.
In the case you mention it feels like there should have been an extra scene or something.
Also, the
guardians
Yeah, there have been one or two instances of this. Pretty jarring.
In the case you mention it feels like there should have been an extra scene or something.
LostMyNarbles
Member
Anyone else feel like FFA has too many people? It feels like some maps just aren't made for 8 people and most games are spent with you getting killed a few seconds after spawning. It's too hectic with all the grenades going around and somebody popping up behind you after you get a kill and finishing you off.
Seth Enosh
Member
FFA should be 6 people like in destiny. 8 is too many for the size of the map now that everyone has sprint and thruster.
TheCanisDirus
Member
I played all day today and probably 70% of the matches were rig if I had to guess. Rig and empire alllllll day.
How many maps are there in arena? Like 5? Whatever happened to 10+ maps for the core experience. I don't count Warzone. That's some wacky shit.
Based on the REQ cards I've gotten, this seems like the only logical new vehicle to be added.
I want that.
Based on the REQ cards I've gotten, this seems like the only logical new vehicle to be added.
That is amazing. Btw get on, its Warzone time.
Anyone else up for it? Let's get a party going.
Came here to say exactly this. Maybe I need to play with Gaf to understand it.
Gotta finish up this presentation prep then I will be.
I am horrible online in every possible way. Horrible in kdr, in wins and I am so bad I warp back in time and erase every single win my teammates have ever had and make them horrible also.
I ranked Diamond in Team Arena.
How?
I should be less than Bronze. Like dirt. Or pond scum.
I ranked Diamond in Team Arena.
How?
I should be less than Bronze. Like dirt. Or pond scum.
LegalEagleMike
Member
GT: LegalEagleMike if room in warzone.
Needles look like they f'ing hurt in this game. Like, the detail on how they're sticking out and stuff.Based on the REQ cards I've gotten, this seems like the only logical new vehicle to be added.
And that glass sound. So good.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I don't understand people's disappointment with the story, I thought it was totally fine. The ending just kind of sucks, they're banking everything in Halo 6. My problems with the campaign come with the pacing and set-pieces.
The sub-plot with Locke and Sanghelios should not have been in this game, It is underdeveloped and has little barring on the main story. There should have been more time spent with Master Chief on Genesis.
There really isn't a single set piece that I found memorable in Halo 5. In Halo 4, you had the journey with the mammoth tank, the pelican flight, the trench run with the broadsword, the mantis reveal, etc. There really isn't anything new or cool in Halo 5. It just sort of feels like Halo going through the motions.
I think the forced co-op was a bad idea. It's hard to build atmosphere or unique moments when the game is designed for 4 different players. I'm hoping 343 does something different for Halo 6, and they keep co-op to firefight or something.
The sub-plot with Locke and Sanghelios should not have been in this game, It is underdeveloped and has little barring on the main story. There should have been more time spent with Master Chief on Genesis.
There really isn't a single set piece that I found memorable in Halo 5. In Halo 4, you had the journey with the mammoth tank, the pelican flight, the trench run with the broadsword, the mantis reveal, etc. There really isn't anything new or cool in Halo 5. It just sort of feels like Halo going through the motions.
I think the forced co-op was a bad idea. It's hard to build atmosphere or unique moments when the game is designed for 4 different players. I'm hoping 343 does something different for Halo 6, and they keep co-op to firefight or something.
FUBAR McDangles
Member
Where do you watch Fall of Reach?
Actually it's supposed to leave you freaked out by the outburst.
Rolando best character
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
IMO it's right next to reach and ODST as my faves. Time will tell where it ranks in those top 3 for me.
VGChampion
Member
Am I missing something? What's with the orange guy in the Infinity ship? Is he AI? I've probably been to into Star Wars lately but it just feels like someone is in the meeting through a hologram versus that person being an AI if so.
Lunchbillion
Member
Haven't finished the campaign yet, but judging from multiplayer alone this games is 10/10 material. Every change this game makes to the formula that I felt iffy about pre-launch, works. Everything is an improvement. Even as a mediocre Halo player, the nerf to aim-assist makes the game feel way more satisfying and precise to control. The ridiculousness of armour abilities are toned down and given to everybody, resulting in a fair fight no matter what and an amazing sense of momentum. The thruster adds more depth to the combat without feeling like a gimmick. The verticality of the maps helps make these moves feel right at home. Aim down sights is surprisingly not that jarring, and being able to shoot in mid-air while hovering kicks all kinds of ass. Even Warzone is... well, it's okay. It's kind of a hit or miss game mode depending on whether or not the team knows what it's doing.
As far as the radar goes, I personally find it much easier now. I used to always get confused when reading it in previous games because it seemed like the enemy was closer than he was. This new version suits me fine. Also, it's now much easier to sneak up on someone for an assassination or something without sacrificing a Halo staple like the radar.
Seriously, this game is awesome. The only thing holding it back is when people quit matches. This is a god damn epidemic, people. Every other match somebody backs out just because our team is off to a semi-weak start. Come back and play this great game, damnit! It's incredible!
As far as the radar goes, I personally find it much easier now. I used to always get confused when reading it in previous games because it seemed like the enemy was closer than he was. This new version suits me fine. Also, it's now much easier to sneak up on someone for an assassination or something without sacrificing a Halo staple like the radar.
Seriously, this game is awesome. The only thing holding it back is when people quit matches. This is a god damn epidemic, people. Every other match somebody backs out just because our team is off to a semi-weak start. Come back and play this great game, damnit! It's incredible!
Unsatisfying conclusion.
Just finished on Heroic, and man, can't help but feel the ending left things on a sour note, which is a shame, because the run up to the final quarter of the game was fantastic. Story wise,
Gameplay towards the end.
Gameplay wise, there was a lot I enjoyed and/or loved, and the middle acts were really solid, but I can't help but the feel the end started to get repetitive and mindless. Just the same enemies and repeated arena's/areas wave after wave, after wave. And then the
fight's repeated over and over and over as well. They really couldn't have come up with some more unique bosses, boss scenario's, encounters and mechanics?
I did love some of the epic set pieces towards the end though. Some of the installations, levels, backdrops etc were very awe inspiring and grandiose, and other times you really got a sense that you were fighting in the midst of utter chaos. Set pieces wise, in particular I loved running down the
. Just felt over the top and cool. Almost Mission Impossible esque.
Friendly AI.
One fairly big complaint I have about the game is the poor friendly AI. There must have been dozens of instances where they did impressively stupid things, and other times I'm pretty sure I died mostly because of them. Walking in to or shooting walls instead of enemies, taking weird routes to get to me that end up in them failing revives, or not being able to get to me at all (e.g. because they couldn't climb up to something effectively or in time), randomly not actually doing much if any damage to certain enemies, other times just repeatedly dying over and over and needing constant reviving, not being able to shoot effectively when on the back of Warthog turrets and so on.
I think if they weren't so strategically important to taking out certain enemies (Warden's, Hunters etc), things wouldn't be as frustrating, but as is they were often more of a hindrance than an aid. I can imagine this game would be more fun in co-op as a result. Luckily you rarely ever need their help, even in Heroic, so it wasn't enough to hamper my experience much overall, and they did still save my skin a few times.
Heroic was actually pretty easy overall, but I can imagine things being trickier because of the friendly AI in Legendary, where their efficient co-operation will likely be more important.
Quick summary.
Overall, I think it was a solid campaign and experience. Fun, rather epic, lots of bad ass moments, a tonne of cool factor, and solid controls. There's also fantastic sound design, sprinkled with moments of visual and aesthetic brilliance to match.
343i clearly learnt a lot from their last effort, and did actually experiment with a few things, such as added mobility in move set and more verticality in level design. That said, I don't think the campaign is totally cohesive or particularly consistent in it's overall quality, and it's that lack of consistency that brings it down a notch, in gameplay and graphics. The story is rather poor, I didn't much like Locke as a character, often times the character development and plot seemed ham fisted or forced (e.g. family camaraderie, too little character depth, erratic plot), and I feel certain acts could have done with just a bit more polish, variety and less repetition. Really solid and enjoyable effort, but not a classic.
Just finished on Heroic, and man, can't help but feel the ending left things on a sour note, which is a shame, because the run up to the final quarter of the game was fantastic. Story wise,
why did Cortana actually turn bad, what specifically is actually even going on, who are the Wardens, what is this installation, what is her plan? The tried and tested, kill everything to bring peace strategy? Cortana of all people falls idle to this plan? After basically fending others off in the past for wanting the same? Also annoyed that Master Chief's role in the end amounted to sweet fudge all. He basically got to the end and got locked in a bubble, whilst Locke saved the day. Sigh.
Gameplay towards the end.
Gameplay wise, there was a lot I enjoyed and/or loved, and the middle acts were really solid, but I can't help but the feel the end started to get repetitive and mindless. Just the same enemies and repeated arena's/areas wave after wave, after wave. And then the
Warden
I did love some of the epic set pieces towards the end though. Some of the installations, levels, backdrops etc were very awe inspiring and grandiose, and other times you really got a sense that you were fighting in the midst of utter chaos. Set pieces wise, in particular I loved running down the
Guardian
Friendly AI.
One fairly big complaint I have about the game is the poor friendly AI. There must have been dozens of instances where they did impressively stupid things, and other times I'm pretty sure I died mostly because of them. Walking in to or shooting walls instead of enemies, taking weird routes to get to me that end up in them failing revives, or not being able to get to me at all (e.g. because they couldn't climb up to something effectively or in time), randomly not actually doing much if any damage to certain enemies, other times just repeatedly dying over and over and needing constant reviving, not being able to shoot effectively when on the back of Warthog turrets and so on.
I think if they weren't so strategically important to taking out certain enemies (Warden's, Hunters etc), things wouldn't be as frustrating, but as is they were often more of a hindrance than an aid. I can imagine this game would be more fun in co-op as a result. Luckily you rarely ever need their help, even in Heroic, so it wasn't enough to hamper my experience much overall, and they did still save my skin a few times.
Heroic was actually pretty easy overall, but I can imagine things being trickier because of the friendly AI in Legendary, where their efficient co-operation will likely be more important.
Quick summary.
Overall, I think it was a solid campaign and experience. Fun, rather epic, lots of bad ass moments, a tonne of cool factor, and solid controls. There's also fantastic sound design, sprinkled with moments of visual and aesthetic brilliance to match.
343i clearly learnt a lot from their last effort, and did actually experiment with a few things, such as added mobility in move set and more verticality in level design. That said, I don't think the campaign is totally cohesive or particularly consistent in it's overall quality, and it's that lack of consistency that brings it down a notch, in gameplay and graphics. The story is rather poor, I didn't much like Locke as a character, often times the character development and plot seemed ham fisted or forced (e.g. family camaraderie, too little character depth, erratic plot), and I feel certain acts could have done with just a bit more polish, variety and less repetition. Really solid and enjoyable effort, but not a classic.
ArchedThunder
Banned
God, I fucking hate "Arena" (not the playlist, but the entire set of small scale stuff) and it depresses me because I enjoyed campaign and really like Warzone. I swear to god the aim assist/magnetism in Warzone is higher than Arena, I can hit things just fine in Warzone yet in Arena I feel like I'm trying to shoot teammates with how low the aim assist is. Then on top of that the maps suck hard and the grenades are way too good for how tight everything is.
Oh and radar is way too fucking small.
Oh and radar is way too fucking small.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Nah it's just a super casual mode for the non core halo players or those who want a break from arena I think. Its a cool idea but doesn't seem to feel right. The predictable boss spawns... Only 3 or so capture points... The req system... Feels half way there... But fully flat IMO. The only thing that makes it bearable at times is the solid gunplay and movement that H5 delivers. Other than that... Bleh.
EchoChamber
Member
I heard angryjoe though this game is disappointing, what do you think guys, is this game is disappointing?
But what if we weren't freaked out because we read Saint's Testimony?
NEVERRRBut seriously, I take it back, 343i. Give me QTE bosses whenever you want.
Warden is awesome, and the new Hunters, too.
Idle Storm
Member
Anyone know if there will be double xp this weekend?
TheCanisDirus
Member
See that... Everyone's so very different.... I detest the crazy large maps and endless running in the open. I love the minimal aim assist and small radar. Give me all battle arenas for 4v4 to 6v6 for skill based combat... Take out the radar and armor power ups. Gold!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
If you missed stuff in the spoiler text you need to go back through and play again, it's explained.
Get good
The first couple of times maybe. After the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th time you're killing him, yea, not so much.
If it is, it's not explained very well. I got the jist of a lot of it, but not to the extent it seemed conclusive.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I always enjoyed arena game modes in previous Halo games, but I just can't in this game. Even if I do okay I'm still getting frustrated because every death feels cheap.
The Sarcastic Dude
Banned
Damn my team slaughtered our opponents in Stronghold 100-4.
Assassinating him on Warzone is pretty sweet, though, you gotta admit.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Now this I can't get behind. Even when I get wrecked... I deserve it. I've never had a death yet that I feel was cheap or iffy in any way. In my experiences in the arena mistakes get me killed.... Missed chaining shots gets me killed.... Not rolling with my teammates gets me killed. No cheapness. The mechanics and balance are so perfectly done in this Halo is fucking amazing!
alexbull_uk
Member
Will post here what I put in the spoiler thread.
! Contains end-game spoilers !
! Contains end-game spoilers !
Just finished my Heroic solo run. Had a pretty good time with the game overall, and except for some sections of the final two missions (which were just full of dull, bullet-sponge enemies), I'm looking forward to playing through it again.
I'm not really sure about the story right now. It was good in the sense it was thought out, written and paced nicely. But I don't really like the direction it went in.
First off, I don't like Locke... at all. In fact, besides Buck, I don't like any of Fireteam Osiris - they all rub me the wrong way for whatever reason and I was really hoping that (at least) Locke would die at the end. Really, I don't even know why they were in the game. In the trailers, it was made to look as though there was a big conflict between Locke and Master Chief. It could have been really interesting, and something that built up throughout the entire game, giving different perspectives on the upcoming clash. Instead, it all came to a head about 5 missions in and basically ended with a weak fist fight.
That brings me to another thing: why is the Chief barely in Guardians? There's what... 3 missions as Blue Team out of 15? I'm not sure why. The story is basically entirely about the Chief, so why not tell it from his point-of-view? It didn't seem like there was anything gained by playing as someone new. In fact, one of the things I liked most about Halo 4 was the fact Chief (finally) spoke a decent amount and had some character buildup. Halo 5 was a step back in this regard, entirely because he wasn't in it enough.
Finally, the overall story... Cortana was always one of my favourite characters in Halo, and (aside from some rampancy related outbursts in Halo 4) it was always pretty clear what kind of 'person' she was. Halo 5 basically turned that on its head and redefined the character - which is not always a bad thing - but it did it waaaaay too fast. Assuming you've just played the five mainline Halo games and don't know about the extended lore, then Cortana does 3 games as your sidekick, 1 game as your dying sidekick, and then finally 1 game as the galaxy's (current) biggest villain. It's too big a jump. I don't like Cortana in the villain role at all, to be honest, but if 343i must go that route, at least give it some in-game buildup. Not just "Oh there's Cortana! She wasn't dead! Oh damn, she turned evil."
Oh, and what the hell happened to Cortana's face? Did the person designing it have some kind of severe brain injury halfway through and forget what she originally looked like?
Overall, I'd rate the game highly. The story wasn't what I wanted, but it was good nevertheless. The gameplay is absolutely top-tier, and the muliplayer is solid so far. When Forge and BTB are in, it's going to be the best Halo game from a pure gameplay standpoint. I'm excited for Halo 6. I just hope we get the real Cortana back.
I'm not really sure about the story right now. It was good in the sense it was thought out, written and paced nicely. But I don't really like the direction it went in.
First off, I don't like Locke... at all. In fact, besides Buck, I don't like any of Fireteam Osiris - they all rub me the wrong way for whatever reason and I was really hoping that (at least) Locke would die at the end. Really, I don't even know why they were in the game. In the trailers, it was made to look as though there was a big conflict between Locke and Master Chief. It could have been really interesting, and something that built up throughout the entire game, giving different perspectives on the upcoming clash. Instead, it all came to a head about 5 missions in and basically ended with a weak fist fight.
That brings me to another thing: why is the Chief barely in Guardians? There's what... 3 missions as Blue Team out of 15? I'm not sure why. The story is basically entirely about the Chief, so why not tell it from his point-of-view? It didn't seem like there was anything gained by playing as someone new. In fact, one of the things I liked most about Halo 4 was the fact Chief (finally) spoke a decent amount and had some character buildup. Halo 5 was a step back in this regard, entirely because he wasn't in it enough.
Finally, the overall story... Cortana was always one of my favourite characters in Halo, and (aside from some rampancy related outbursts in Halo 4) it was always pretty clear what kind of 'person' she was. Halo 5 basically turned that on its head and redefined the character - which is not always a bad thing - but it did it waaaaay too fast. Assuming you've just played the five mainline Halo games and don't know about the extended lore, then Cortana does 3 games as your sidekick, 1 game as your dying sidekick, and then finally 1 game as the galaxy's (current) biggest villain. It's too big a jump. I don't like Cortana in the villain role at all, to be honest, but if 343i must go that route, at least give it some in-game buildup. Not just "Oh there's Cortana! She wasn't dead! Oh damn, she turned evil."
Oh, and what the hell happened to Cortana's face? Did the person designing it have some kind of severe brain injury halfway through and forget what she originally looked like?
Overall, I'd rate the game highly. The story wasn't what I wanted, but it was good nevertheless. The gameplay is absolutely top-tier, and the muliplayer is solid so far. When Forge and BTB are in, it's going to be the best Halo game from a pure gameplay standpoint. I'm excited for Halo 6. I just hope we get the real Cortana back.
NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Anyone?
It just happened again, that's 3 of the last 5 games.
Here's a clip, shit goes crazy for a few seconds then it DCs.
http://xboxclips.com/Name+Generated/c0087e02-92fc-4e0a-a6f8-36873d9f2231
EroticSushi
Member
Tried joining you but it was stuck in a loop trying to join the game in progress. I'll hop in if you guys have a spot after.
I can see that, but I thought
Cortana's outburst in 4 was handled better. The cutting of the shot, the sound of it, just feels off.
Lasky told him he was out of line, which is why I thought he'd have a retort to Roland after his outburst.
I'm getting near the end of the game, but give some cheers to the team. You guys did a great job.
Also, give the sound designers an extra vay-k week because damn.
LostMyNarbles
Member
Just got an Ultra AR skin from a Gold Req. :O