Any last minute predictions on how well Fallout 4 will rate critically?

I mean, all they have to do is make the same God-awful combat engine they've been using for years. TW3 was't perfect, but it was fine. It worked and it felt decent.

Don't think I've ever said the same for the combat in Skyrim/Fallout.

I really enjoy VATS

Supplement and improved version of it with massively improved FPS controls, and it should be great. Even if the FPS controls are only slightly improved it'll still be fine for me, since I spend 95% of my combat time in VATS anyway

TW3 combat is (or was?) mediocre imo
 
I really enjoy VATS

Supplement and improved version of it with massively improved FPS controls, and it should be great. Even if the FPS controls are only slightly improved it'll still be fine for me, since I spend 95% of my combat time in VATS anyway

TW3 combat is (or was?) mediocre imo

VATS - pause game, aim for head. If chance is too low, aim for body. Hide and wait for it the recharge. Rinse and repeat for EVERY ENEMY IN THE GAME.

Can't stand it. TW3 combat may have been mediocre but at least it had variety.
 
Once the dust settles, I'm placing bets that it's open world and combat will be unfavorably compared to that of The Witcher 3.

I don't think TW3's open world is beating Fallout 4. They both have pretty boring combat, but the world design of TW3 got boring very fast.

It's kind of telling that reviewers and players who are satisfied with the base product rarely discuss the underlying gameplay mechanics with any real depth, since this is consistently where the games fall apart for people who are looking for something more.

What about the "gameplay mechanics" would you like to discuss? Am I really supposed to be that bothered that I swing a hammer like a lummox and the feedback is barely there, or I can shoot an enemy and he barely registers it as a flesh wound? How many games actually have this visceral level of connection to the combat?

What I personally think is telling is that no one can actually quite articulate just exactly what they find lacking about Bethesda's efforts beyond "shit combat, poor story."

VATS - pause game, aim for head. If chance is too low, aim for body. Hide and wait for it the recharge. Rinse and repeat for EVERY ENEMY IN THE GAME.

Can't stand it. TW3 combat may have been mediocre but at least it had variety.

You know that's complete horseshit. Hide where? Enemies will come for you. I sure as shit know a Deathclaw of a Yao Gui isn't going to just let you sit back and recharge.
 
I'm going to go with a 95.

Big franchise making its return.
It's open world.
Most reviewers are fanboys.
It's a game with really big areas where you have a lot of additional content.
It's open world.
 
Low 90's.

Hype will be high for the first week or so, but more and more people will start to point out its flaws as the weeks go by.
 
Really high. Critics overlooked a lot of Skyrim's flaws. I see the same thing happening,. I'm not saying the game will be bad. I do expect some of the major changes to not be for everyone.
 
It'll be a bug-fest and it'll still manage to score 90+.

joke thread?

GotY awards and near perfect scores cause it is Fallout.




truth

Pretty much. I anticipate a race between all the outlets to see who can be the first to give it an 11 out of 10. They'll play for 3 days straight without sleep in order to have "finished" the game before embargo is up, and then it'll be a contest to determine who praised it the best while ignoring issues that other games get docked for.

Then the game releases and doesn't get past the 3rd splash screen at startup on PS4 while on Xbox there is a critical bug that doesn't let players save their progress, which results in many players just leaving their xbox on for days and days, terrified of losing their progress. Then the patch comes and they realize they must restart the Xbox to apply the patch, which will then lose all their progress.
 
I have a weird feeling about this one, I feel its not going to be up to par to the other Fallouts. Nothing to really explain why really, but im going with mid 70s for meta.
 
94 Metacritic. There will be tons of bugs, and the overall game mechanics won't be much improved over any other Bethesda game but that won't have any impact on reviews.

It'll get nothing but love for a couple weeks but 2-3 months after launch people will be saying things like "They're releasing the 4th patch and it still doesn't fix "x"!?
 
When it comes to a game like this I don't care about the reviews. I have an idea what it's going to be from Bethesda's track record and I know I'm going to enjoy myself immensely. Whether it gets an 80 or a 95 doesn't matter one bit.
 
I have a weird feeling about this one, I feel its not going to be up to par to the other Fallouts. Nothing to really explain why really, but im going with mid 70s for meta.
This is crazy man, even if it's just a reskinned Fallout 3 it will get at least 85, no way it's below 80, I would bet on it.
 
It'll be a bug-fest and it'll still manage to score 90+.

I don't know what witcher scored but it sounded pretty high and it's a complete wreck so it can't be any worse than that....

I bought it on sale and was legit shocked noone seemed to mention this (until later as usual).
 
94-96 on PS4 and Xbox one
89-91 on PC

User score on PC: high 40's
I'm expecting it to be unplayable during launch week.
 
This is crazy man, even if it's just a reskinned Fallout 3 it will get at least 85, no way it's below 80, I would bet on it.

Yea i might have been a little unrealistic with 75, but still feel it will be lower than what most people are expecting.

Not that its stopping me from buying it day 1.
 
Yea i might have been a little unrealistic with 75, but still feel it will be lower than what most people are expecting.

Not that its stopping me from buying it day 1.

Mid 70's is more than unrealistic. It's ludicrous. I really don't understand what people don't understand about Bethesda. This is the game they make. They have iterated on this process over the years and have watched their Metacritic only go higher.

It's nuts that people don't bat an eye at Call of Duty score mid 80's EVERY year, who are coming and here and hand wringing about the newest Bethesda game in 4 years and the followup to FO3 after 7 years not being scored well. Todd Howard would have had to have lost his entire game design sense for this to be true. Many of the reviewers are going to score the game based on sheer value alone.

1-day review embargo is alarming

I. I don't even know anymore. You're alarmed about the embargo lifting a day before, nevermind that Bethesda has put the game into journalists hands nearly TWO WEEKS before release so that they can get in enough hours of play to judge their work. You don't do that if you aren't confident in your product.
 
I reckon a couple of much lower 'controversial' reviews could pull it just under 90, but most reviews will be low 90s.
 
It would be hilarious if they scored 84 and missed out on a bonus

I. I don't even know anymore. You're alarmed about the embargo lifting a day before, nevermind that Bethesda has put the game into journalists hands nearly TWO WEEKS before release so that they can get in enough hours of play to judge their work. You don't do that if you aren't confident in your product.

You have a point there, but an early embargo with glowing reviews can give a huge boost to preorder sales. I don't see why they would pass on that if they had confidence in their product.
 
Probably somewhere in the 87-92 range. The graphics are underwhelming, and I imagine there will be a decent amount of bugs. Granted, I'm sure I will love the game, but I think critics have generally been a little more harsh/realistic with their scores.

Of course, I've tried to avoid as much media coverage as possible so there might be some insanely good looking stuff that's passed me by.
 
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