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[Durante]

The funny part is, in many ways this looks like a generation behind AC:Unity graphically. And boy, were people down on that game.

Seriously this the amount of "shit" that has been lost in this thread over still,compressed images is amazing.

This argument comes up again and again, but compression doesn't eat up shadows, draw distance, foliage or geometric detail.

 

[BizzyBum]

I mean, it's not terrible, but I do feel bad for people who don't play these types of games on PC.

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

With nice lighting i mean these:

http://i0.wp.com/www.onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4-3.png

http://www.pcinvasion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4_Trailer_Wasteland_1433355638.png

http://im.ziffdavisinternational.co...ult/fallout4-trailer-city-1433355574_et1h.jpg

http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/upl.../77943cb9619f0034deda2e633b48f46ae92c78b7.jpg

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1441888/fallout-4-screenshot-mutant.png?w=1180

http://i.imgur.com/Sf6X1w5.jpg

https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/g...985b2f9380d5a/cotd_email_1434375585_00028.jpg


I sure hope the consoles at least have that. guess we can' t expect much more from this engine.

Take the screenshot from the vault for example, why is it so bright? It reminds me of the Skyrim screenshots back then from BGS themselves, showing a dungeon full of skeletons and it was just overly bright, as if someone was using the wrong black level setting. Hopefully that's the case now as well.

 

[DeepEnigma]

18 pages and still going of people calling it ugly as hell. What kind of outrage do you guys want? Storm the Bethesda offices?

Or maybe voicing dissatisfaction so they notice and make ES6 balls to the wall build for the current gen systems.

How do people every get by in life always agreeing to the status quo? Maybe if people also did not bring in gameplay into a graphics/screenshot thread (like par for the course), this would not such a lengthy debate.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Jesus Christ, we've reached the apex of hyperbole.

He isn't far off, it other than the character models, it could pass for a remaster.

 

[LabouredSubterfuge]

So, ambient occlusion lads. Let's talk.

 

[Matush]

I must say, Batman: Arkham Knight is the best looking open world game on consoles and it runs flawless. Arkham Knight get's overlooked because of it's shitty PC port.

I think AK looked beautiful, but with limited open world activities it's possible to tune the graphics to the max, and for what it's worth, I still think GTA V for NG is probably still the best looking open world game this gen.

 

[opticalmace]

Looks like crap. Hopefully the PC version will look a lot, lot better.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

Looks really bad.

 

[sappyday]

Yea the silence here with Bethesda is unnerving. They are either too cocky or too scared. None are good considering the uproar with the visuals.

 

[Syf]

Looks bad, and it's missing effects that were shown previously. If that's really what the console versions will look like I may just go PC despite wanting it on PS4.

 

[DrROBschiz]

With nice lighting i mean these:

http://i0.wp.com/www.onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4-3.png

http://www.pcinvasion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4_Trailer_Wasteland_1433355638.png

http://im.ziffdavisinternational.co...ult/fallout4-trailer-city-1433355574_et1h.jpg

http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/upl.../77943cb9619f0034deda2e633b48f46ae92c78b7.jpg

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1441888/fallout-4-screenshot-mutant.png?w=1180

http://i.imgur.com/Sf6X1w5.jpg

https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/g...985b2f9380d5a/cotd_email_1434375585_00028.jpg


I sure hope the consoles at least have that. guess we can' t expect much more from this engine.

Take the screenshot from the vault for example, why is it so bright? It reminds me of the Skyrim screenshots back then from BGS themselves, showing a dungeon full of skeletons and it was just overly bright, as if someone was using the wrong black level setting. Hopefully that's the case now as well.

These pics are GREAT examples of what I am talking about

First look at all the LIT areas. Than look in the shadows

Clearly the textures and outdoor objects they set up look amazing in the light at certain angles. Must be blending the colors in a more appealing way to my eyes.

Once the light isnt there though..... gets uglier

 

[ElFly]

Looks kind of awful but look at how many trees we can put at the distance here!

 

[Trickster]

He isn't far off, it other than the character models, it could pass for a remaster.

I think people need to play FO3 again and get a refresh on how fugly that game actually is without a metric ton of mods installed.

 

[Jobbs]

I must say, Batman: Arkham Knight is the best looking open world game on consoles and it runs flawless. Arkham Knight get's overlooked because of it's shitty PC port.

Batman Arkham Knight was insanely boring with no meaningful exploration, discovery, or immersion. It was a blank world. You can't really compare the two games. No one else is doing what Bethesda games do, not even Witcher 3 is comparable.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

MGSV being bad open world while you champion the AC series.

wat

AC open worlds are packed to the point of irritation. MGSV's open world is basically a bunch of really really small checkpoints connected by a bunch of its-fucking-nothing.gif

 

[johnnydrama]

A game that for all it's pretty modeling ran like dog shit on consoles and taxed everything but the best PC's. Yea.

Speak for yourself, please. I played The Witcher 3 at 1080p 60FPS on my Core i5, GTX 970 PC on high to very high settings. It's hardly the "best PC".

 

[Haint]

Kudos to Bethesda for not glassing their teams after they ship their games, cause I can't think of any other reason the people responsible for their graphics still have a job.

 

[DeepEnigma]

With nice lighting i mean these:

http://i0.wp.com/www.onlysp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4-3.png

http://www.pcinvasion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Fallout4_Trailer_Wasteland_1433355638.png

http://im.ziffdavisinternational.co...ult/fallout4-trailer-city-1433355574_et1h.jpg

http://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/upl.../77943cb9619f0034deda2e633b48f46ae92c78b7.jpg

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1441888/fallout-4-screenshot-mutant.png?w=1180

http://i.imgur.com/Sf6X1w5.jpg

https://coubsecure-a.akamaihd.net/g...985b2f9380d5a/cotd_email_1434375585_00028.jpg


I sure hope the consoles at least have that. guess we can' t expect much more from this engine.

Take the screenshot from the vault for example, why is it so bright? It reminds me of the Skyrim screenshots back then from BGS themselves, showing a dungeon full of skeletons and it was just overly bright, as if someone was using the wrong black level setting. Hopefully that's the case now as well.

Now these ones look nice. And there is nothing in them that the PS4/One cannot do. I do hope that this just does not have a day one patch, or is the PC version on medium with the DS4 plugged in.

 

[dark10x]

wat

AC open worlds are packed to the point of irritation. MGSV's open world is basically a bunch of really really small checkpoints connected by a bunch of its-fucking-nothing.gif

I don't see the issue with nothingness. Trying to turn open worlds into giant checklists is terrible.

 

[Zombie James]

He isn't far off, it other than the character models, it could pass for a remaster.

Some of you have really bad memories of what Fallout 3 and New Vegas actually looked like.

 

[Isendurl]

At least this thread can't turn into a heated downgrade discussion.

Bethesda, unlike a certain other developer whose name I won't mention, didn't provide early promotional material that was completely doctored, and in no way representative of the final product.

Todd Howard is not a liar.

Of Course he isn't...

 

[RPGam3r]

Yea the silence here with Bethesda is unnerving. They are either too cocky or too scared. None are good considering the uproar with the visuals.

Silence? What do you want them to say? Game looks fine and I doubt they're scared. Have you seen there games prior to this, and they all sold like hot cakes. I'm sure they're shaking in their boots at the hyperbole.

 

[ANDS]

This argument comes up again and again, but compression doesn't eat up shadows, draw distance, foliage or geometric detail.

I said nothing about details that are impossible to lose in compressed photos. Are you really saying this is a good representation of what the actual game will look like? That still photos are a good representation of the fidelity of the game in motion? Sure.

He isn't far off, it other than the character models, it could pass for a remaster.

Dear god. Go actually look at a video of what Fallout 3 looked like. My god.

 

[Crossing Eden]

The funny part is, in many ways this looks like a generation behind AC:Unity graphically. And boy, were people down on that game.

This argument comes up again and again, but compression doesn't eat up shadows, draw distance, foliage or geometric detail.

Funny enough we had the same sort of thread last year when a french gamer leaked some ps4 screens of that game. Some were saying that "It looks worse than AC4." The bolded is right. Although I wouldn't say they're a good representation of IQ.

I don't see the issue with nothingness. Trying to turn open worlds into giant checklists is terrible.

I agree that there's nothing wrong with using large spaces but when the game has an amazing atmosphere, think Red dead redemption or witcher 3, the large empty spaces work to the game's benefit.

 

[legacyzero]

https://twitter.com/AllGamesBeta/status/660484827033051136

Thank you JESUS, the IQ isn't as bad as I thought. I can live with that. Shadows still suck tho.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Batman Arkham Knight was insanely boring with no meaningful exploration, discovery, or immersion. It was a blank world. You can't really compare the two games. No one else is doing what Bethesda games do, not even Witcher 3 is comparable.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

 

[RichiRamjag]

Or maybe voicing dissatisfaction so they notice and make ES6 balls to the wall build for the current gen systems.

How do people every get by in life always agreeing to the status quo? Maybe if people also did not bring in gameplay into a graphics/screenshot thread (like par for the course), this would not such a lengthy debate.

I don't get the point that you're trying to make to me. I've been voicing the same criticism toward the game. Read any of my past few posts. Maybe you should read the message I was replying to and you'll understand the context of what I was trying to say. At no point was I saying folks can't voice their concerns. The guy I responded to acted like fallout was getting a pass and looking at this thread, it isn't.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He isn't far off, it other than the character models, it could pass for a remaster.



I don't get the point that you're trying to make to me. I've been voicing the same criticism toward the game. Read any of my past few posts. Maybe you should read the message I was replying to and you'll understand the context of what I was trying to say. At no point was I saying folks can't voice their concerns. The guy I responded to acted like fallout was getting a pass and looking at this thread, it isn't.

No where did I mention gameplay either.

My bad, I should have been more clear... I was reinforcing what you were saying. My apologies.

 

[tuxfool]

Now these ones look nice. And there is nothing in them that the PS4/One cannot do. I do hope that this just does not have a day one patch, or is the PC version on medium with the DS4 plugged in.

Looking at some of the better shots. The IQ on the plants is a dead giveaway that these are PC captures.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Now these ones look nice. And there is nothing in them that the PS4/One cannot do. I do hope that this just does not have a day one patch, or is the PC version on medium with the DS4 plugged in.

SO the one inside the shopping center highlights another issue http://i.imgur.com/Sf6X1w5.jpg

Contrast and object detail

Look that the Metal serving buffet thing on the left

Looks out of place in that messy environment. Lacks detail and the color looks completely flat

You have SO many objects in Fallout games and I totally understand why they dont handcraft every single one to fit..... but its that attention to detail in world building that makes each area unique and brings it to life.

Not something I expect to see in an open world game very often though... its a trade off of scale

 

[blame space]

The graphics are immense. It's like looking at a photograph!

 

[RichiRamjag]

My bad, I should have been more clear... I was reinforcing what you were saying. My apologies.

Ahh, no worries at all. Folks are always going to defend their favorite franchises. No need to give them a pass on shoddy work though.

 

[barit]

Looks okay. Far from ugly. If you wanna see a really ugly looking and performing game then try The Evil Within on PS4 lol

 

[Confidence Man]

Looks weirdly bright. And ugly.

 

[SlasherJPC]

Uh...looks fine to me. Big step up from Fallout 3 and Skyrim. Of course with things like describing The Witcher 3 as a "buggy mess" and Bethesda games as "unplayable", this sort of over exaggerated response is expected. Sure some textures leave a bit to be desired but there's a lot of detail overall. It's a highly stylized game.

People are tripping so hard. It'd laughable man. Oh the things I could say but won't.

 

[julzillamilitia]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

 

[Raiku]

https://twitter.com/AllGamesBeta/status/660484827033051136

Fucking cockroaches. Pls noooo

 

[glassgannon]

At all times? Bullshit it did.



So that's your personal screenshot? It's a stupid comparison anyway. The better comparison is to show a shot of Skyrim versus Fallout 4 since that's the closest tech that Bethesda has.

Seriously this the amount of "shit" that has been lost in this thread over still,compressed images is amazing. And you wonder why dev's aren't active here much anymore.

you suggesting a comparison b/w a last gen and current as fair and better is more than what he needs to prove his point.

Seriously this is c-tier handling of tech, and sooner than later, there needs to be a time when people need to stop giving them a free pass for this bullshit.
no one is suggesting the gameplay is bad.
but every defender jumping on the hipster bandwagon where everything that gets good graphics instantly becomes hollow and boring is as bad as the shitposting in this thread.
when 1 or two person teams make better looking stuff ue4 and unity there is no reason for bethesda to not polish their games with that big fat AAA budget regardless of how satisfied their vocal fans act like they are

their shooting mechanics are garbage
their animations are garbage
their graphics are garbage
their Qand A is a hot fudging mess
most of their own games ship filled with game breaking bugs

and yet everyone needs to shut up because gameplay is above all.
they are not gods
they are the people who made the horse armor dlc for a game that could barely keep its shit together and running on consoles.

 

[Zombie James]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

That's another thing, too, the compression on these screenshots is horrible.

 

[tesqui]

The art style seems to be better, but the tech looks about the same. Some of the texture quality and polycount appears to be similar to what you would get on last gen. This type of quality would make more sense if the game was shooting for 60fps/1080p.

 

[Kezen]

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

Could you elaborate ?

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

 

[opticalmace]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

Wut?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

compressed jpegs are worthless.

lol at Durante and his usual bullshit. its getting old. grow up.

What the hell are you talking about ?

Edit: Fuck, probably bait.

 

[mumbles365]

Ouch, yeah this looks pretty bad on those screenshots, but I will reserve full judgement until I see it on my screen. Either way, I am still pretty hyped for this game.

 

[Blackleg-sanji1]

Looks okay. Far from ugly. If you wanna see a really ugly looking and performing game then try The Evil Within on PS4 lol

I don't get this? Why do people Even try and do this. So because something u like is being called out, people try nd call out something else to justify the fact that its ok?

 

[etta]

This looks great. Screen complexity and world detail are really nice. Can't wait to explore the wasteland.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Looking at some of the better shots. The IQ on the plants is a dead giveaway that these are PC captures.

I assume it is as well, but also it isn't something mind-blowing that the PS4 cannot handle. I wonder if parity had a role, considering both consoles are spec'ed the same 1080p/30.

SO the one inside the shopping center highlights another issue http://i.imgur.com/Sf6X1w5.jpg

Contrast and object detail

Look that the Metal serving buffet thing on the left

Looks out of place in that messy environment. Lacks detail and the color looks completely flat

You have SO many objects in Fallout games and I totally understand why they dont handcraft every single one to fit..... but its that attention to detail in world building that makes each area unique and brings it to life.

Not something I expect to see in an open world game very often though... its a trade off of scale

Agreed with this.

 

[Denton]

I don't see the issue with nothingness. Trying to turn open worlds into giant checklists is terrible.

Once disabled the stupid map markers, Witcher 3 hit perfect happy medium for me. Beautiful expansive detailed areas to explore, huge number of meaningful quests, no checklists and fillers.