007 SPECTRE |OT| It's me, Austin. It was me all along, Austin.

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Hitting up the preview tonight. Hopefully they don't run the Sam Smith video before the screening like they did last night for the press preview. Can't imagine that actually helped anything.

Watched Skyfall last night as a refresher. Still a fun flick (and a little more light on its feet than I'd remembered). The ending of that film pretty solidly announces the intentions to dive feet first into The Formula (TM).
 
Sam Mendes is such a superficial director. All his movies are incredibly shallow, Spectre included. It's one of the most unexciting and uncreative bond-films. I was only once on the edge of my seat, the rest of the movie felt like a muddled mess with laminated characters barely making an effort.

Fire Mendes and get someone who understands tension, interesting characters and general excitement.
I don't think it's fair to blame Mendes for a shit script tbh
 
I don't think it's fair to blame Mendes for a shit script tbh

Mendes doesn't write the scripts.

Every Sam Mendes-film has the same problem with shallow and forgettable characters hidden under a "modern and serious" sheen. You can blame the script for the lack of proper characterizations, but I will blame Mendes' for the constant lack of stakes and engaging events. I found myself looking at my watch throughout the entire movie out of boredom and frustration.
 
I wonder if the finale had more impact if
Madelin actually died.

It would've been a huge shocker since the entire finale has no sense of tension and urgency, it almost lulls the audience into a slumber because OF COURSE Bond is going to save the girl. Imagine if Bond was unable to find her, or defuse the bomb, or if Blofeld pulled a Joker and she was someplace else or whatever.

It'd also bring the movies full circle, as well as make the relationship between Bond and Blofeld infinitely more meaningful than it is now. Because really, even though they tried to make Blofeld an arch-nemesis, he was nothing more than a nuisance for Bond in this movie.

And lastly it would save us the cringeworthy "happy ending with the love of my life whom I met mere days ago, and know next to nothing about".
 
Hitting up the preview tonight. Hopefully they don't run the Sam Smith video before the screening like they did last night for the press preview. Can't imagine that actually helped anything.

Watched Skyfall last night as a refresher. Still a fun flick (and a little more light on its feet than I'd remembered). The ending of that film pretty solidly announces the intentions to dive feet first into The Formula (TM).

I saw it last night (won tickets through a local radio show) and they showed the music video before the movie. People were literally laughing out loud during it, and started laughing even harder once it started playing again during the title sequence. Not a good look before the movie even really starts
 
I wonder if the finale had more impact if
Madelin actually died.

It would've been a huge shocker since the entire finale has no sense of tension and urgency, it almost lulls the audience into a slumber because OF COURSE Bond is going to save the girl. Imagine if Bond was unable to find her, or defuse the bomb, or if Blofeld pulled a Joker and she was someplace else or whatever.

It'd also bring the movies full circle, as well as make the relationship between Bond and Blofeld infinitely more meaningful than it is now. Because really, even though they tried to make Blofeld an arch-nemesis, he was nothing more than a nuisance for Bond in this movie.

And lastly it would save us the cringeworthy "happy ending with the love of my life whom I met mere days ago, and know next to nothing about".

Light gave more feels and tension. But I actually liked that Bond won this way. He beat Blofeld for the first time. I liked how he didn't kill him eather. He knows he won...
 
Hitting up the preview tonight. Hopefully they don't run the Sam Smith video before the screening like they did last night for the press preview. Can't imagine that actually helped anything.

Watched Skyfall last night as a refresher. Still a fun flick (and a little more light on its feet than I'd remembered). The ending of that film pretty solidly announces the intentions to dive feet first into The Formula (TM).

It was played before the film when I watched it.
 
I saw it last night (won tickets through a local radio show) and they showed the music video before the movie. People were literally laughing out loud during it, and started laughing even harder once it started playing again during the title sequence. Not a good look before the movie even really starts

did they applaud
 
Light gave more feels and tension. But I actually liked that Bond won this way. He beat Blofeld for the first time. I liked how he didn't kill him eather. He knows he won...

It still wasn't quite as satisfying as
the last time Bond beat him:
Blofeld-goes-down-the-chimney.gif
 
I wonder if the finale had more impact if
Madelin actually died.

It would've been a huge shocker since the entire finale has no sense of tension and urgency, it almost lulls the audience into a slumber because OF COURSE Bond is going to save the girl. Imagine if Bond was unable to find her, or defuse the bomb, or if Blofeld pulled a Joker and she was someplace else or whatever.

It'd also bring the movies full circle, as well as make the relationship between Bond and Blofeld infinitely more meaningful than it is now. Because really, even though they tried to make Blofeld an arch-nemesis, he was nothing more than a nuisance for Bond in this movie.

And lastly it would save us the cringeworthy "happy ending with the love of my life whom I met mere days ago, and know next to nothing about".

No it wouldn't.

There was absolutely zero chemistry between Seydoux and Craig imo, perhaps partly because of the script but the whole romance between them was so unbelievable. If she would have died it would probably have the same impact as Severine dying in Skyfall.
 
I liked it a lot, but Daniel Craig looked tired through all the movie. With this said, SPECTRE is almost what I wanted after Skyfall, a classic Bond that doesn't take itself seriously. Yes, the ending is just ok and in some parts looks rushed, it needed a little more action to be really fantastic.
I rate it on par with Skyfall, even if you could say that they are opposites.
 
Hitting up the preview tonight. Hopefully they don't run the Sam Smith video before the screening like they did last night for the press preview. Can't imagine that actually helped anything.

Played twice for us last night. The full Sam Smith music video, then of course the intro vid with Sam Smith music. It was terrible

Really liked the movie though
 
If an American director were to ever direct a Bond film, could you imagine Doug Liman got the chance to direct, and the butting of heads he'd have with Broccoli, Wilson, and the writers?

Liman said he wanted to direct a Bond film before Bourne I guess:

http://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/exclusive-doug-liman-has-designs-on-bond/

When Swingers director Doug Liman delivered The Bourne Identity in 2002 to be swiftly followed by Paul Greengrass‘ explosive sequels Supremacy and Ultimatum, it was the sharp burst of electricity the spy genre of cinema, led by suave super agent James Bond, desperately needed.

In 2006, EON Productions, who make the Bond movies, released Casino Royale as a reaction to the changing face of the spy genre, a movie that owed its darker, more stoic tone to Liman’s work on Bourne.

But, says Liman, it was the Bond series he was always interested in. In the middle of promoting his latest, Jumper, RT sat down with the director to talk about his passion for blockbuster cinema and why Bond was always his dream project.

“After Swingers people said, ‘You can do anything, what would you like to do?'” Liman told us. “I said, ‘I want to direct a James Bond movie.’ They said, ‘Well, you can’t do that. They’re not going to let you do that. They have a specific kind of director they hire, so just forget it.’ I said, ‘Well I’ve got a spy book I read in college, The Bourne Identity, what about that?’ They said, ‘You can’t do that either. Do something else. How about a romantic comedy?’ I ended up not doing that and making Go before I did end up getting the rights to make Bourne Identity.

Liman tells us that he chose to take Bourne in a grittier direction only as he was making it. “What I discovered when I started adapting the book was that as much as I enjoyed those movies I wasn’t interested in making a totally mindless piece of entertainment.”

But with the reinvigoration of the franchise, Liman is aching to play in that universe again. “It really is surreal that all I was trying do to was direct a James Bond film and I ended up changing the James Bond franchise,” he tells RT. “That being said, I’d still love to direct a James Bond film and I heard Steven Spielberg quoted recently saying he’d always aspired to direct a James Bond film. I think that is one of the spectacles that sitting there as a young boy in the movie theatre and being swept away to these exotic locations and the sexiness of it is one of the things that made me fall in love with cinema in the first place.”
 
Seeing this tonight - didn't look at the leaked script, have kept myself away from spoilers. Can't wait to finally be able to read under all the spoiler bars in this thread once the movie's over!
 
I won't see the film for a few more hours but I 100% refuse to believe it's Die Another Day levels of bad. What the fuck.
 
I won't see the film for a few more hours but I 100% refuse to believe it's Die Another Day levels of bad. What the fuck.
It's a good movie and a very good Bond film. Yes, it could have been better and yes , it's not Casino Royale nor Goldfinfer but still, it's classic Bond with some very good cinematography.
 
Just finished watching it. I loved the movie. I thought the ties to the previous movies were going to be terrible, but they're acceptable at the very least.

It is not as good as Casino Royale, not as bad as Quantum. US critics just didnt like the Bond formula I think.

The ending though...
it felt like a closure to the Craig era, but not very bond-y. It worried me not seeing "james bond will return" as a fan when the movie ended, but then it showed at the end of credits
 
I won't see the film for a few more hours but I 100% refuse to believe it's Die Another Day levels of bad. What the fuck.

It's not as silly as Die Another Day.

But it's got an illogical plot, poorly-conceived "twists," pacing problems, mostly tension-less action (outside of the opening), and meandering character arcs.

Considering the caliber of the people involved and the potential behind it, it falls a lot shorter of its ambitions than Die Another Day did.
 
Just finished watching it. I loved the movie. I thought the ties to the previous movies were going to be terrible, but they're acceptable at the very least.

It is not as good as Casino Royale, not as bad as Quantum. US critics just didnt like the Bond formula I think.

The ending though...
it felt like a closure to the Craig era, but not very bond-y. It worried me not seeing "james bond will return" as a fan when the movie ended, but then it showed at the end of credits

Its been at the end of the credits for like 45 years.
 
This is insane. Not sure what's going on here to make the film get such good reviews here in the UK and such negative ones over in the US.

It's as if they are reviewing two completely different films.

yeah, trying to wrap my head around this and can't find an explanation. The only argument that could be done is British critics are biased towards a British icon, which would be laughable if you know anything about how cynical these guys are over here
 
What the fuck is up with these bad reviews. Just got bad and I really enjoyed it. I wouldn't rate it up with Casino Royale/Skyfall but it's definitely better than QoS.
 
It's a good movie and a very good Bond film. Yes, it could have been better and yes , it's not Casino Royale nor Goldfinfer but still, it's classic Bond with some very good cinematography.

I love Craig's run so far, so I have no doubts I'll love the film.

It's not as silly as Die Another Day.

But it's got an illogical plot, poorly-conceived "twists," pacing problems, mostly tension-less action (outside of the opening), and meandering character arcs.

Considering the caliber of the people involved and the potential behind it, it falls a lot shorter of its ambitions than Die Another Day did.

What did you think of Skyfall? IMO it was Craig's best and a phenomenal film. If you loved it, and hated Spectre...Hmmm...Then I might panic a little.
 
I love Craig's run so far, so I have no doubts I'll love the film.



What did you think of Skyfall? IMO it was Craig's best and a phenomenal film. If you loved it, and hated Spectre...Hmmm...Then I might panic a little.

Yeah, then you and I probably won't see eye-to-eye on this.

I thought Skyfall was mediocre. Spectre is sort of in the same vein, except executed more poorly.
 
a very forgettable movie with forgettable characters.
huge disappointment


at least skyfall had the brilliant cinematography.

:(
 
Yeah, then you and I probably won't see eye-to-eye on this.

I thought Skyfall was mediocre. Spectre is sort of in the same vein, except executed more poorly.

Panic cancelled on my end then. We all love different things.
 
It's not as silly as Die Another Day.

But it's got an illogical plot, poorly-conceived "twists," pacing problems, mostly tension-less action (outside of the opening), and meandering character arcs.

Considering the caliber of the people involved and the potential behind it, it falls a lot shorter of its ambitions than Die Another Day did.
Every Bond movie has an illogical plot.
 
at least skyfall had the brilliant cinematography.

:(

Hoytema is great, and you can tell that underneath all of that aggregious colour-correcting, there's talent to behold.

The neutral colour-scheme throughout most of CR makes that movie stick a lot more. In Spectre, every scene that isn't UK or Europe, is indredibly brown or orange with nothing to contrast with.
 
It would've been a huge shocker since the entire finale has no sense of tension and urgency, it almost lulls the audience into a slumber because OF COURSE Bond is going to save the girl. Imagine if Bond was unable to find her, or defuse the bomb, or if Blofeld pulled a Joker and she was someplace else or whatever.

actually it would have been like 'oh this is the 2nd act of The Dark Knight isn't it'
 
So I just watched the Sam Smith video and it isn't the worse video that I've seen. Why all the hate for it?

The video by itself isn't bad, I guess. The song is pretty bad.

But being forced to watch it before the movie starts, and then within like 10 minutes having to hear the whole thing all over again? That'd be really annoying/irritating.

Can anyone who saw it today confirm they're not running it in front of the movie still? I didn't need confirmation they did it last night at the press/sneak previews, I wanna know if it's still running for the regular screenings that begin tonight.

Because I'll make a quick dash to concessions/bathroom THEN, if that's the case. I need to plan these things, you see, because the movie's apparently 13 hours long.
 
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