007 SPECTRE |OT| It's me, Austin. It was me all along, Austin.
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ViewtifulJC
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one of the worst car chases I've ever seen. Three minutes of the most fucking incoherent action editing of which the mind can conceive.
And this is after CR had two of the top 3 action sequences in the whole franchise with the Africa chase/Airport chase.
Jason's Ultimatum
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I've said it a few times already to get Campbell back for Craig's last film. Fuck getting Campbell back for the new actor play Bond.
Nerdkiller
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What's your take on Never Say Never Again?
NSNA = poverty Thunderball
I wouldn't be against it but I feel like the success of Skyfall has fully convinced EON that they are making films that will attract top tier talent, so I doubt Campbell will ever get the call again.
Jason's Ultimatum
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The problem was the editor. If you're going to do rapid editing, at least get it right like Christopher Rouse does it in the Bourne films, but then again, I still don't think it would fit in a Bond film. There shouldn't have been any rapid editing AT ALL in QoS.
Bobby Roberts
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Campbell isn't getting the call again.
They were lucky as fuck that the lighnting struck the second time.
They were lucky as fuck that the lighnting struck the second time.
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JeremyEtcetera
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I agree fully with your top ten. Below that is where things get a bit fuzzy. Maybe it was the fandom after Goldeneye or maybe it's a bit of nostalgia but I actually enjoyed The World is Not Enough. Saying that Spectre and Skyfall are better than that puts me in a confusing predicament.
Thomsa Newman was well enough for Skyfall, but I agree it's time for him to go. It's kinda soured on me that quite a few Skyfall tracks were reused in Spectre. No excuses for that shit.
Nerdkiller
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I know. I just wanted to ask Solo what he thinks of the unofficial Bond movie.
And I guess what he thought of the Peter Sellers' Casino Royale as well.
Too bad Ryan Reynolds isn't in Actor's jail
Do you even need to ask?
Directed by Christopher Nolan
Written by Damon Lindelof
Music by John Carpenter
ViewtifulJC
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Sure, sure. They didn't have any facility for the kind of action-heavy storytelling they were doing.
Jesus God the editing + handheld camera shake in the opening of this shit
where's the fuckin Taken 3 gif
Smokey_Run
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I noticed it was Lee Smith, Nolan's go-to editor. Go figure. I'm a big Nolan fan, but most of his movies could be 10-15 minutes shorter.
Discotheque
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It's a bit incoherent but the intro to the car Chase scene is fucking slick as hell.
Plus the rest of the action scenes are fine. A bit too many cuts but nothing awful. The thing that puts quantum over a lot of bond films (and pretty much all the other spy movies except for bourne and Jack ryans) is the tone though. I hope for craig's last ride they go back to how he was in casino/quantum
Bond vs. 009. He wants revenge for Bond stealing his car.
Actually, much as people will cry foul about ripping off Goldeneye, I do kinda hope that the acknowledgement of 009 (or other 00s in general) leads the producers to a rogue agent/spy vs. spy story for the next one, and wasn't just an Octopussy reference.
Edit: Oh wait, I guess Skyfall already did that with Silva.
neoism
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I'm honestly surprised that most people here liking QOS I personally didn't really like it, the director or most importantly the thing most wrong with the film was the editing it was fucking terrible to watch each scene felt like one second clip into another.... and seeing how I only kind of liked Skyfall I think this might be the first bond film i skip in like 15 years... even though I only like skyfall the cinematography definitely was so good that it put it over QOS ...but CR will forever remain my fav bond film.. nice review solo nonetheless...will just wait for the rental..
a little too many cuts but it was pretty fucking rad
I meant, most of us who like Quantum of Solace here on GAF, probably liked it ever since it came out. I know for one, that I liked it since day 1, and it have only grown on me as time has went by.
I want this as well but it won't happen, for sure.
neoism
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great order.... yeah i for the life of me dont understand why they just didnt give Campbell the series as director after CR...would have been soo much better if all Craig's bond films was with the same team..sucks the green lantern killed his carrer lol, and Stuart Baird as editor... even though Skyfalls pacing wasn't as good as CR.. it was well edited..
Yeah. QoS was pure shit. It was made during the writers strike, so I get why it turned out like it did. Spectre has no such excuse.
There were too many locations in this movie. It was an unfettered hop from London and back every half hour or so.
Goldeneye and Casino Royale are the only ones I can enjoy watching again. Skyfall was decent enough. I miss Judi Dench
There were too many locations in this movie. It was an unfettered hop from London and back every half hour or so.
Goldeneye and Casino Royale are the only ones I can enjoy watching again. Skyfall was decent enough. I miss Judi Dench
Kölsch Bloot
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Well for me it is
SPECTRE>>>Skyfall>>>>>>Casino Royale>Quantum of Solace
SPECTRE>>>Skyfall>>>>>>Casino Royale>Quantum of Solace
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Casino Royale is too good. I don't even see it as a Bond movie per se.
Looks as though he actually climbs back up the fence just as he's about to climb down it. What a cluster.
Sure, sure. They didn't have any facility for the kind of action-heavy storytelling they were doing.
Jesus God the editing + handheld camera shake in the opening of this shit
where's the fuckin Taken 3 gif
Looks as though he actually climbs back up the fence just as he's about to climb down it. What a cluster.
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Damn. That is very sad to hear, yet expected. That's how I'd rank the top three as well for Craig.
They never should have made Casino Royale, as it set the bar so high. I really can't do more campy wink-wink nudge-nudge Bond after how wonderful CR was. Wasn't one of the primary motivators for doing CR the way they did was that it was so difficult to go back to the Bond formula after Austin Powers?
People saying Spectre is one of the worst Bond films of all time.
People saying Quantum of Solace is an under-rated masterpiece.
Yeah, I am having a hard time comprehending this. Spectre was fun, QoS is pure shite
They are different types of/visions for bond films.
There's just so much to like in Goldeneye. The casting was great and it had great pacing/flow. It's a blast to watch. I hated the other two Brosnan ones.
Differences in opinion. I wouldn't worry. GAFs (if i must really merge 100s of opinions to just 1) opinion usually varies from critics and the public when it comes to Bond films... but isn't that to be expected?
neoism
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whaaaaaaat!!? holy shit really :O awesome.. thought this was his last..... really fucking hope for a different director
Quantum of Solace just felt everything was randomly laid out and had no structure. All I am saying is, regardless of opinions, a story can be called a story when it moves from point A to Z in a sensible manner. QoS just felt it was all over the place. Spectre may had a lot of boring section and some scenes may have been underwhelming but everything he done, and everywhere he went was connected to the last set piece.
I actually saw it a third time (first time was with my dad, second time was with a mate and third was a date)
It definitely dragged. I mean, I had some good distraction this time but still. The main issue for me are the mi6 scenes. They drag. And drag. Every scene makes me think "get back to Bond!"
Bobby Roberts
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That whole subplot is easily the biggest misstep. If they werent' spending time on that shit they could have spent more time actually improving Waltz's character.
QoS was a mess, but it had quality content underneath. Both girls were used well, I did like the villain's plan that was simple, but made sense, Bond's arc was solid too. It was showing the metal that was making him and the after effects of Vesper. Mathis was a great supporting cast to him.
Spectre on the other hand is a mess, but there is nothing but shit under. How the villain is tied to it all. Do why the fuck do you need Monica in it?
It's a shame, Casino Royale and Skyfall were much more tight pacing wise. Spectre really does to do too much.
I never liked Goldeneye. Don't understand why everybody loves it so much (didn't see it until 2012 though). Never really liked Brosnan era to be fair
Apparently not. Taken from the other thread.
James Bond film producer Michael G. Wilson says he expects Daniel Craig will return for a fifth outing as the iconic 007.
"I think we've got Daniel Craig," Wilson tells The Hollywood Reporter in an interview, waving aside the actor's recent protestations that he was through with the role. Wilson makes a comparison to director Sam Mendes, who said he was done with Bond after 2012's Skyfall, only to return for Spectre. "[Mendes] said they were never going to make the picture again, and he told the press that." Asked if Craig was legally bound to do another Bond film, however, Wilson acknowledges: "We don't have a contract."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/spectre-producer-expects-daniel-craig-837655
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