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I have a strong love/hate relationship with the game going on right now, mostly on the love side.

I mean when I am skulking in the dark, stealthing around super mutants who can smell me but cannot find me, all while security robots rampage all around us...Fucking amazing. And when shit goes down, mechanically speaking I think this is by far Bethesda's best combat ever. I suplex mofos dammit. That's insane. The FPS mechanics are butter smooth, and goddamn if VATS isn't an incredible system. Never gets old. These slowmo final bullets...HNNG! Everything about the Commonwealth and the gameplay mechanics, is perfecto. It's intoxicating. I am eating dinner right now, and I can't wait to go back in the wastes of Boston. So much cool shit to see. And seeing it on my big screen tv, it's a pretty ass game. So many gorgeous vistas. And the maps/encounters in the dungeons I've been through so far....stellar stuff. The sheer amount of insane variety and depth to the systems that litter the game is stuff of legend. I have no doubts that I'll be playing this game for years to come.

But man...They really fumbled on the main plot arc. And terribly so. Every Bethesda RPG always ends up the same for me. I do the main story sure, but it's never with a character I build the way I want. It's with my testtube, throwaway character before digging into the meat of the game. The side content you can do in any way you want.I've been dark assassins, blacksmith mages, twisted scientists and heroic thieves. There's so much stuff to do in Bethesda's games that my characters always have utterly different personalities. I played them all in a different ways, they all felt different, and I loved them all equally.

Sure I've made my revolver loving, stealthy martial artist Ada Wong ripoff. And when she's mouthing off on some wasteland peon she couldn't care about, I feel like this is a Bethesda game at it's best. But she's not MY character. No matter how many builds I'll try, they will never be different people to me, unlike my Oblivion/Skyrim/Fallout 3/New Vegas characters. Because I can't decide shit. I can't fuck over people on a whim. I can't be evil when I want to, and be nice some other times. I always HAVE to be nice because Bethesda decided we couldn't be assholes anymore. I mean Fallout 3 begins with the choice to nuke a town for fuck's sake. Hey Bethesda!
I don't fucking care about Shaun. I fucking cheered when my character's useless husband got headshotted. Fuck him. I never want to hear about that crap family again. I don't want to find that kid. Let him fucking grow up with weird murderers. They killed the shitty husband, they can't be that bad. I want to meet them, and tell them to keep the kid!
The main character has a definite personality in this one, and that's bullshit. I feel like the character I crafted in my mind's eye, like I always do before playing Beth games, is constantly hijacked by crazy thoughts that aren't her own. Someone get her a radiation pill! She's not feeling well.

On the flipside, everything else is so fucking brilliant I just have to soldier through. The game is literally Fallout 3 Turbo. I wanted Fallout 3 Turbo. I can't wait to play some more. But I needed to get that off my chest. Really bad decision on their part.
 
ENB 0.280 for Fallout 4 has been released. Just some bug fixes for now.

Announcement at http://enbdev.com/index_en.html

Also some comments from Boris at http://enbdev.com/enbseries/forum/v...8&sid=ff8f3ef58307c1a25d0b3fb50ee36b30#p65691

"Folks, game is awful from inside. It's like the made by indie who just want to develop games and ask on the forums what engine do they need for survival zombie point and click racing game. And this both bad gamebryo engine changes and new renderer pipeline. Some basic features of the mod like post process and ssao replacement simple to make, but even adjusting lights intensities and lot of other parameters from Skyrim is hundred or thousand times harder, especially with upcoming patches. I can't use automatic shader recompiler with their shaders, so 2000+ of them must be patched manually. Shadows from lights with such heavy conditions is the worst nightmare. Objects are not split by their native types, latex ravens sounds like ravens, trees sharing same properties as metal, stones and grass are the same. Seems F4 will not be any better than F3/NV with ENBSeries."
 
I popped the disc in my PS4 and put it in rest mode. I came back and the yellow light was flashing and the system wouldn't turn on. Had to hold the power button for about 20 seconds before it turned back on telling me it wasn't shut down properly.

We're off to a great start!
 
No spoilers, but how do you see your status? Like being poisoned, etc? My wife is in Carvega Assembly Plant and her health is just draining like crazy, yet we can't find any indication of a status effect.
 
Yo guys, target the ghouls' legs in V.A.T.S. They do melee damage so they're pretty ineffective when their shins have been blown off.
 
bonesmccoy said:
Drat. So I have to take stuff out of the workbench and drop it, and then select each one to scrap?

Bethesda! There has to be a better way.
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I have never done this, I have only ever scrapped stuff in my inventory once but I did it while inside the workbench menu. Only actually done so once, and right now I'm in the middle of a place I don't want to fast travel out of to go check, but I'm sure you don't have to drop shit on the ground to scrap it.
 
Nimajneb said:
i don't suppose there's a some way to place custom map markers that I'm not seeing? I just found a hidden tunnel with a high level terminal to hack, and I don't think I will remember to come back.
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Sadly not. I wish every game of this sort had it. Custom map markers are things you can find in certain other RPGs, and whenever they're missing, it's noticeable.

The only things you can really do are either try to remember or jot the area down in some notebook (no in-game note system either).

You can stick the one custom map marker you do get there, but that's not very convenient since you can't use it for other things.
 
Graffgor said:
Anyone actively dislike the game yet?

I'm still on the fence and I don't want to buy into GAF's early bird hype.
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I don't dislike it, but I can't say I've been particularly impressed with it so far.

I mean, it's alright, but it doesn't excel in any particular area and it just feels like I'm going through the motions so far. I've only played for 8 hours, though. Things might change.
 
lmao that fucking Diamond City Radio DJ. At first he was annoying, but now when I hear his voice coming up I just have to laugh every damn time

10 hours in and I'm loving it. Settlements were a little bit too much at first, but I think I'm getting the hang of it
 
F0rneus said:
I have a strong love/hate relationship with the game going on right now, mostly on the love side.

I mean when I am skulking in the dark, stealthing around super mutants who can smell me but cannot find me, all while security robots rampage all around us...Fucking amazing. And when shit goes down, mechanically speaking I think this is by far Bethesda's best combat ever. I suplex mofos dammit. That's insane. The FPS mechanics are butter smooth, and goddamn if VATS isn't an incredible system. Never gets old. These slowmo final bullets...HNNG! Everything about the Commonwealth and the gameplay mechanics, is perfecto. It's intoxicating. I am eating dinner right now, and I can't wait to go back in the wastes of Boston. So much cool shit to see. And seeing it on my big screen tv, it's a pretty ass game. So many gorgeous vistas. And the maps/encounters in the dungeons I've been through so far....stellar stuff. The sheer amount of insane variety and depth to the systems that litter the game is stuff of legend. I have no doubts that I'll be playing this game for years to come.

But man...They really fumbled on the main plot arc. And terribly so. Every Bethesda RPG always ends up the same for me. I do the main story sure, but it's never with a character I build the way I want. It's with my testtube, throwaway character before digging into the meat of the game. The side content you can do in any way you want.I've been dark assassins, blacksmith mages, twisted scientists and heroic thieves. There's so much stuff to do in Bethesda's games that my characters always have utterly different personalities. I played them all in a different ways, they all felt different, and I loved them all equally.

Sure I've made my revolver loving, stealthy martial artist Ada Wong ripoff. And when she's mouthing off on some wasteland peon she couldn't care about, I feel like this is a Bethesda game at it's best. But she's not MY character. No matter how many builds I'll try, they will never be different people to me, unlike my Oblivion/Skyrim/Fallout 3/New Vegas characters. Because I can't decide shit. I can't fuck over people on a whim. I can't be evil when I want to, and be nice some other times. I always HAVE to be nice because Bethesda decided we couldn't be assholes anymore. I mean Fallout 3 begins with the choice to nuke a town for fuck's sake. Hey Bethesda!
I don't fucking care about Shaun. I fucking cheered when my character's useless husband got headshotted. Fuck him. I never want to hear about that crap family again. I don't want to find that kid. Let him fucking grow up with weird murderers. They killed the shitty husband, they can't be that bad. I want to meet them, and tell them to keep the kid!
The main character has a definite personality in this one, and that's bullshit. I feel like the character I crafted in my mind's eye, like I always do before playing Beth games, is constantly hijacked by crazy thoughts that aren't her own. Someone get her a radiation pill! She's not feeling well.

On the flipside, everything else is so fucking brilliant I just have to soldier through. The game is literally Fallout 3 Turbo. I wanted Fallout 3 Turbo. I can't wait to play some more. But I needed to get that off my chest. Really bad decision on their part.
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Wtf at the spoiler part... What makes him shitty? They barely even exist.
 
TheSlySoul said:
That seems like a good idea.
Any tips against the turrents?
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I just run at them with grenades or a minigun between their firing bursts. Seems to work well. I got the laser rifle and its pretty effective against turrets as well (at least the ones I've encountered).

blame space said:
Thinking about picking up that journalist to come kill shit with me.
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I'm playing as a female character. There's a part of me that wants to kill her for her outfit
 
Doctor_Thomas said:
So, after a few hours, all I can say is - do you like Fallout 3? Then you'll like Fallout 4. Do you hate Fallout 3? Then you'll hate Fallout 4.

For the record, I do like Fallout 3, but I stopped playing Fallout 3 about 7 years ago... I can't really see any progression in this from a gameplay point of view. It actually feels a little.... stale? It's still early on, so I don't want to judge it harshly, but the novelty of Fallout 3 isn't a novelty anymore and this doesn't really do enough to justify its self to me at the moment and I can't imagine there's going to be a massive revelation. I want to stress this is very early impressions, but I'm not particularly impressed. The building element is cool though, I like that.
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I'm still super early on but I gotta say I agree.
 
Not far in at all but I miss the old dialogue menu and the lack of voice acting. It let me use my imagination with delivery more.
 
So what do I miss out on if I skip the base building after the first part? Not really enjoying it - the interface is shockingly bad. They should just pull you out to a 2.5D perspective or something.
 
Dominator said:
Wtf at the spoiler part... What makes him shitty? They barely even exist.
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Because I didn't want a husband and a kid. It's a huge backstory they forced on me. I didn't mind it at first, because I thought they'd ignore it forever past the intro but no...
 
I have a question that perhaps you guys can answer?

I bought Fallout 4 digitally on my PlayStation 4, under my account.

Today, I bought a second PlayStation 4 for my wife. Is it possible for me to set up my account on that second PS4, download Fallout 4 on my account, and my wife will be able to play it on her account on the second PS4? On the 2 PS3's I have, I am able to have my account on both systems, and all of the games I own on one PS3 I can play on the other as well. I assumed the PS4 would work the same way, but until today, I've only had the one PS4. I'm at work now, so I won't be able to get everything set up until I get home.

Any information here would be helpful! Thanks!
 
Steam just downloaded a 60MB patch. I can't find any details on what it fixed?

NM found it:

1.1.30 Beta Update (PC)

Fixes crash related to xaudio drivers.
 
By far the most powerful weapontype in the game is shutgun with "long barrel". It's SOOOOO nuts. Combine that with a crit on any head (crit = 100% chance to hit) and nothing stands in your way. I kill every legendary that way on Survival.
 
Figboy79 said:
I have a question that perhaps you guys can answer?

I bought Fallout 4 digitally on my PlayStation 4, under my account.

Today, I bought a second PlayStation 4 for my wife. Is it possible for me to set up my account on that second PS4, download Fallout 4 on my account, and my wife will be able to play it on her account on the second PS4? On the 2 PS3's I have, I am able to have my account on both systems, and all of the games I own on one PS3 I can play on the other as well. I assumed the PS4 would work the same way, but until today, I've only had the one PS4. I'm at work now, so I won't be able to get everything set up until I get home.

Any information here would be helpful! Thanks!
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The way it works for digital content, any games purchased from your account will work for everyone on the console that you set to be your primary console.. However to use the content on another ps4 will require you to be logged in with the account that purchased the content.

So you would need to make your wife's PS4 the primary account for your account and then login to your PS4 with your account but not make it your primary.
 
Enco said:
Not far in at all but I miss the old dialogue menu and the lack of voice acting. It let me use my imagination with delivery more.
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Yeah. The female VA's delivery isn't necessarily terrible, but she kinda says everything very differently than I would/want her to. At least her voice is pleasant, I guess..

Hate this dialogue system so much
 
Enco said:
Not far in at all but I miss the old dialogue menu and the lack of voice acting. It let me use my imagination with delivery more.
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Yup. Exactly this. Not a fan of this streamlining BS. The past games weren't as streamlined and yet they are revered by the same gamers who are playing Fallout 4 now, not to mention they sold a ridiculous amount. So why simplify things now?

Doesn't really bode well for the next ES...at least not for me.
 
loki 16 said:
I been looking in the game to no avail but how do I repair the power armor?
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take it to the yellow mechanic lift looking bars you find everywhere.

*edit* this yellow thing:

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Can't identify an enemy til it's too late and there seems to be far fewer actual quest givers. It hasn't captivated me at all like the others did :(
 
LiQuid! said:
Raiders and their nade spam is kind of absurd. Can't engage with more than 1 or 2 of these idiots at a time without constantly standing in some molotov.
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Equally annoying is that they don't seem to take splash damage from their own explosives, so there's no risk on their end.
 
SG-17 said:
This game is way too much a shooter. It just feels so generic now. I liked how in 3 and NV the shooting was so clunky and made VATS actually important.
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I don't doubt some feel this way. I just think it's funny to be upset they made the shooting in a shooter better and not having to rely on a dice roll and autoaim? It's still there to use.
 
Um I'm just starting this up on PC and it doesn't respond to any button presses. Neither my 360 controller or my mouse or keyboard (though esc works to get to the first menu)

Is this common?
 
spyder_ur said:
So what do I miss out on if I skip the base building after the first part? Not really enjoying it - the interface is shockingly bad. They should just pull you out to a 2.5D perspective or something.
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I'd kill for a top-down view when building settlements.

It's especially bad if you're playing with mouse/keyboard, even beyond the limited view. You effectively need three hands if you want to do the settlement stuff with any sort of efficiency. WASD, arrow keys, and mouse are all heavily used. It's a bit silly.
 
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