This is a misunderstanding, I adore Jeff as a one of the honest video game journalists around
edit. Ah this already was sorted by a third party, no hard feelings
Fallout 4 - Reviews thread
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This is a misunderstanding, I adore Jeff as a one of the honest video game journalists around
edit. Ah this already was sorted by a third party, no hard feelings
Because lower reviews might make Bethesda get off their asses and stop using a ancient buggy engine.
you could have just read the metacritic user reviews, but apparently not
i guess that makes you illiterate
i played for over 7 hours or so today and only encountered some slight frame rate drops. i would hardly call it a broken mess. arkham knight on pc is a broken mess.
Baron Doggystyle von Woof
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This sounds more honest than most reviews. will wait for some great mods before I jump in.
Maybe it'll go down to 84. Karmic justice for Obsidian.
They're not gonna care. It's still going to sell like 20m copies and that's all that matters to Bethesda. They're gonna use the same crap for Elder Scrolls VI.
They're not gonna care. It's still going to sell like 20m copies and that's all that matters to Bethesda. They're gonna use the same crap for Elder Scrolls VI.
If the game had actually good writing and good VA performance then the changes they've made would of been okay with me. However, the dialogue system is extremely nuttered. A lot more than I was expecting. The VA in both the main character (even the female) and NPCs are bad, worse than F3 for some reason. The game lets you either do really bad cinematic angles or let you wander around when characters speak to you. This is something Skyrim actually did well in which it didn't pause the game but it also locked your character still. It's off putting and I just don't care what most characters say. I get more interested in reading the stories in the terminals.
poppedcollar69
Member
yes that logic is exactly what im tlaking about haha
EricTheCleric
Member
Thanks, I had not heard of this game. Just added it to my wishlist. Will look it up when it is released.
Fans of Fallout3 eh? I am a big fan of both Fallout 3 and NV (and 1&2..), I will see if I join them in 20 hours.
Though this game is much much more stable than NV was at release.
I think it might still be getting them, I feel this game was more hyped than those you mention.
The originals don't have many reviews, that's true, although I doubt people who actually played them would not place them as the best.
Anyway, FO3 has 12k reviews and FNV has almost 33k. I'd say it's comparable.
Too late for that, unfortunately. Metacritic has a weighted average and the major media outlets all gave it extremely high scores.
TheAutomator
Banned
This metacritic obsession is weird. 90 or 87 or 85, the point is that most reviewers thought it was a good game despite issues. It could very well be a GOTY contender, if people deem it so.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
I had it on 86 after a long patching process. But looks like it doesn't need that much patching.
TeddyShardik
Banned
Well, at least the technical issues are mentioned in the reviews so people who absolutely can't live with them can hold off for now.
I'll see for myself once I get home. Can't wait to start playing.
I'll see for myself once I get home. Can't wait to start playing.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Yea his post history is quite telling... ._. Dat grudge.
Ive had the opposite impression since the witcher 3 arrived. Im predicting that Fallout 4 will get barely any recognition in the GOTY or RPG of the year categories because of Bloodborne and The Witcher 3.
sankt-Antonio
Banned
Nothing beats project beast leak era hype.
old manatee
Banned
I bought previous Bethesda games on day one. At least I came by my grudge honest. Some would say I'm the Paul Revere of video games.
Manny Calavera
Member
I think I have to agree with you. I don't quite see the universal love to Fallout 4 that The Witcher 3 and Bloodborne got. Some of the user reviews are being quite harsh on Fallout 4 and it has some mediocre reviews from the critics as well that The Witcher 3 and Bloodborne hardly got. But we have to wait and see.
Yeah, they just refused. Not only are they lazy devs, they're straight up assholes. /s
At a certain point, no matter how much more polish you add to your game, you're not going to achieve any more sales by continuing to pump money into development. I promise you the devs absolutely wanted to continue working on it. But the reason video exists is because they're funded by money.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's because consumers will buy the game at that state in the first place, if they didn't you can be damn well sure they'd spend extra time on it, like EA now does on certain release and AC L definitely took a hit because of it.
TBF I'm not sure Bethesda is entirely out of the clear on this it'll of course sell really, really well, but the user score and general perception may in fact have a hit on the legs what this game could have done without that perception.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
What did they release that was "broken"?
eot
Banned
You do realise that Fallout 1 came out long before Steam? It was even before Valve.
Papacheeks
Banned
Steam Early Access exists now. If a game is buggy and incomplete it should go there until it isn't.
Companies like Bethesda, Konami, Ubisoft and Activison are just being dishonest by dumping these broken AAA games on the front page for $60 with a Season Pass and every other thing, when their games are obviously still in beta and sometimes take 6 months to a year to fix.
Other companies like Tripwire and Codemasters put their products on Early Access at a discount and are actually honest about the state of their games.
Bethesda has an embargo on the review embargo and they are tweeting that the game has a solid framerate and everything is a-ok! It's bullshit.
jerks.
Steam early access is a bad business practice. Tripwire and Codemasters might be the acceptation, but even then Killing Floor 2 has been on sale since April, and it's still not out of early access? WTF?
It's a cheap way to get money upfront. And since people have put shit load of time into it, only to at one point have their stats erased, doesn't help your game. Put out a free beta when you confident in the state of your game, get feedback(server load, network, performance, balancing) then finish the game.
Early access promotes only unfinished games, and not in a good way.
To your other points, Ubisoft has had a bad track record as of past couple years.
Activision though, what did they make that was broken? Millions of people playing destiny, call of duty, and guitar hero seem to be happy?
What game has Konami put out that was broken? Maybe their soccer game?
Castlevania, MGS series seem to be complete when they ship, minus maybe multiplayer component for MGSV.
Demon Lizardman
Banned
Undertale, don't forget Undertale.
Always be counting on Giantbomb to spit the truth.
Undertale isn't AAA, tho
After dropping 6+ hours into the game I can easily understand why it scored 9's at all the major outlets. I can also see why many additionally claim that it feels like a modernized Fallout 3.
One definitive thing I've also realized, anyone comparing this game to Witcher 3 have lost their goddamn minds. The games couldn't be any different, and expecting parity of any kind between the two is not only foolish but incredibly naive.
Having a blast so far, but realize the game is not perfect. I guess much like all those 9 scores indicate, Fallout 4 doesn't need to be in order to create a compulsory experience.
One definitive thing I've also realized, anyone comparing this game to Witcher 3 have lost their goddamn minds. The games couldn't be any different, and expecting parity of any kind between the two is not only foolish but incredibly naive.
Having a blast so far, but realize the game is not perfect. I guess much like all those 9 scores indicate, Fallout 4 doesn't need to be in order to create a compulsory experience.
MGS V!? Good lord no.
I enjoyed its gameplay a lot more than I enjoyed TW3 gameplay tho. I can't see why it can't win just because of its story. TW3 didn't have the best story either and its gameplay was mediocre at best.
AAA means less and less every day in terms of perceived value. A bad game with high production values is still a bad game, and a good game that didn't cost much to produce is still a good game.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
The GotY will go to The Witcher 3 because multi, I would like to see Bloodborne as GAF GotY though.
QuantumZebra
Member
Day 21... still no frame rate drops... but the walls are starting to melt in my apartment and I think I hear Satan outside
QuantumZebra
Member
Bloodborne is gonna sweep the "underground" / "hardcore" / Jim Sterling type GOTYs... Witcher 3 is gonna sweep the IGN, et al.. GOTYs
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Day 35, dog is still on fire, smiling, looking through my soul.
Pattycakes
Banned
So where does Fallout 4 rank amongst the series? Are New Vegas and Fallout 3 superior?
QuantumZebra
Member
I think the Fallout argument is gonna end up like the MGS series... absolutely no definitive ranking and each person's list will vary wildly.
It's still early in the game for me, but I think it's a lot better than 3 so far.
New Vegas seems to have the better plot and it's writing was really strong throughout, so maybe slightly inferior to New Vegas. Though I haven't seen a ton of quests in 4 yet and it's definitely mechanically superior to New Vegas.
obvs that's a huge can of worms to open. especially since FO4 came out yesterday...
but new vegas will be tough to surpass. not every day a game that well made comes along
On the Gameplay end: Leagues better than 3 and New Vegas in most ways.
On the RPG end: HAHAHAHAHA.... Not even better than 3. Dialogue system especially is abhorrent.
Misc.: Settlement building is hit or miss, some people like it(I do, it scratches my inner minecraft fan). Character creator is the best Bethesda has ever done, and better than many other series to boot. They got rid of durability, so struggling to maintain your weapons is gone, and there's so much ammo laying around you don't have to worry about that either, a plus if you didn't like that aspect, but I did so...
Personally, so far, below modded FO3 and definitely below NV and FO2.
In a couple of years, when there are tons of mods, it'll probably end up somewhere between FO3 and FO2.
It's not shocking at all. A 9+ just means they liked the game a lot.
Bought it day 0, hype was high thought the negativity in this thread was way over the top. However, after 5 or so hours I am very disappointed. It feels just like Fallout 3 hell it even have the same music.
I liked fallout 3 at the time but did not think I was buying an expansion pack yesterday..
I liked fallout 3 at the time but did not think I was buying an expansion pack yesterday..