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Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later

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Speaking of reviving frieza, wasn't there a rule in place in the original DB that you couldn't wish back someone who had been dead for more than a year?

It's mentioned that the limit to bringing everyone killed by Freeza and his men back would be one year because there were too many people. Some people took the one year limit to be a general rule, but it was never mentioned outside of that. Before that, there were some comments about body preservation, but that's another matter.

my theory on this is that 99.9999% of the people get reincarnated as someone else once their souls are cleaned up, and that takes around a year, so if you wait more than a year, chances are the soul will be in someone else's body, so by resurrecting them you'd be killing someone else and the dragon won't do that

According to Toriyama's recent comments, Kid Buu's reincarnation was faster than usual, so it sounds like souls would spend at least a few years in hell in order to be cleansed before reincarnating.
 
my theory on this is that 99.9999% of the people get reincarnated as someone else once their souls are cleaned up, and that takes around a year, so if you wait more than a year, chances are the soul will be in someone else's body, so by resurrecting them you'd be killing someone else and the dragon won't do that

this is backed up by Piccollo and Vegeta talking about resurrection just before Vegeta suiciding trying to kill Buu

but Freeza is a special case cause he is so evil he either cannot be cleaned up by the regular methods and needs years and years of cleaning, or he just was sent to hell forever

this would also mean that people like Goku, who were left to live in the afterlife with no reincarnation, could be revived by the dragon balls with no problem, but nobody thought of it cause they had already been told that there was a time limit

toriyama prolly just forgot, but this makes sense to me
It's likely Kid Buu reincarnated faster since Goku requested it before he killed Kid Buu and King Yemma granted it. Other than that's there no known time table for how fast the process normally takes.

The only thing that doesn't line up with the manga is why Freeza still has a body in Hell. When earlier it was stated only special cases when a person is good like Goku were allowed to keep their bodies.

I just assume it's because Freeza was a special case himself and was given extra treatment in Hell for all the stuff he caused when he was alive.
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.
 
Chōzetsu ☆ Dynamic! is a great OP, but it feels a lot like a "coming home" kinda OP, I hope that once we kick of the Universe 6 stuff we get a new OP that is high energy like Cha La Head Cha La, Dragon Soul and Kuu-Zen-Zetsu-Go
Really? I think Dynamic is pretty high energy - feels a lot like Cha La Head Cha La. The parts where they go "Let's go!" is like a mega earworm.
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.
I called it!!!
It was to obvious when the whole different universe stuff started
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.

Huh, so
Saiyans are confirmed to exist in Universe 6?
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.

We found a guy named Tullace and Broly

Huh, so
Saiyans are confirmed to exist in Universe 6?

The ones that add up to 13 are supposed to be similar to each other, that's why they are fighting of the earths
 
Also weird that he says one more after 6 dragonballs and he'll have a complete set. What about the 9 star ball on the cover of the first manga?
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.

This is gonna be awesome.
And people called me an "SJW" or whatever for hoping Super would have female Super Saiyan, but Toriyama found a way. I wonder how those people feel now lmao

Also weird that he says one more after 6 dragonballs and he'll have a complete set. What about the 9 star ball on the cover of the first manga?

Probably the same reason as other covers for DB and Z in the past - "it looked cool".
 
Here's the last bit translated from the latest Dragon Ball Super manga chapter.

The Nameless Planet
The six Wish Orbs float in the sky (they really are planet-sized)

Champa: "Needs some bathrooms. And I want there to be shop stands too...Alright! I guess this'll do for a stadium."
Vados: "By the way, have you already decided on your five contestants?"
Champa: "Those two over at Beerus' place were probably Saiyans...We'd better get some Saiyans too..."

Get hyped for female super saiyans with them even foreshadowing it in this chapter by talking about them in comparison to Bulma and Chichi!

Prepare to be disappointed.

It begins...,
Goku vs NegaGoku
 
Maybe there's Namekian warrior gods?

That's what I was thinking since there was a "warrior class" of namekians

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That's what I was thinking since there was a "warrior class" of namekians

Yeah for such a peaceful race I wondered why they had warriors. Makes me wonder what they were like as a civilisation before their planet got messed up and left them with 100 left (pre-Dragon Ball).
 
Yeah for such a peaceful race I wondered why they had warriors. Makes me wonder what they were like as a civilisation before their planet got messed up and left them with 100 left (pre-Dragon Ball).

Guru ate all the white namekians
I kid I kid

It's likely Kid Buu reincarnated faster since Goku requested it before he killed Kid Buu and King Yemma granted it. Other than that's there no known time table for how fast the process normally takes.

The only thing that doesn't line up with the manga is why Freeza still has a body in Hell. When earlier it was stated only special cases when a person is good like Goku were allowed to keep their bodies.

I just assume it's because Freeza was a special case himself and was given extra treatment in Hell for all the stuff he caused when he was alive.

I don't think hell was ever shown in the manga; it was shown in the anime a few times, but those apparitions seem to contradict Freeza being tortured in a cocoon
 
I don't think hell was ever shown in the manga; it was shown in the anime a few times, but those apparitions seem to contradict Freeza being tortured in a cocoon

I think RoF is the first time a canon heaven/hell has been shown, before that we only saw purgatory.

Given how it was introduced in Super, it seems like a "nine circles of hell" deal where one of them is your own personal ironic hell.
 
On the topic of the final page.
Champa judged Goku and Vegeta based on them wearing those super heavy suits whilst in their base forms, I'd laugh if he grabs two Universe 6 Saiyans that haven't even become regular Super Saiyans. But honestly I'm sure we'll get some cool new characters, I just hope that there are no more than two Saiyans on Champa's team and that it's mostly new races. I also really doubt any Saiyans (or any of the characters in general) will be alternate versions of the ones from Universe 7, they'll probably be new. I'm curious to see what kind of differences there might be between the Universe 7 and 6 Saiyans, what if the Universe 6 Saiyans aren't blood thirsty and are more like noble protectors? Or what if they are the complete opposite and are like ridiculously violent ape humanoids with an appearance somewhat similar to Super Saiyan 4? Also I'm guessing the Saiyans' planet in Universe 6 still exists, if so that's kinda funny with Earth being a desolate wasteland there.
On the topic of Piccolo.
With the whole name drop of the Namekian Book of Legends I'm positive that will be the source of Piccolo getting a huge power boost, however I wouldn't be surprised if they get the details of what to do come from Zuno, seeing as he/she apparently knows everything. I also still think that they are the 5th member of Beerus's team, it just makes too much sense.

Really? I think Dynamic is pretty high energy - feels a lot like Cha La Head Cha La. The parts where they go "Let's go!" is like a mega earworm.

It feels pretty calm to me because of the singer's voice and a lot of the actual music. I would love them to bring back the Dragon Soul guys to do something like Kuu-Zen-Zetsu-Go, I love that song.

I think RoF is the first time a canon heaven/hell has been shown, before that we only saw purgatory.

Given how it was introduced in Super, it seems like a "nine circles of hell" deal where one of them is your own personal ironic hell.
This is what I assume too, pretty flowers and fairies and stuffed bears singing happy songs seems like the perfect hell for someone as evil and cold as Freeza, it's probably like Buddhist hell were they are tortured until they are reincarnated.
 
Guru ate all the white namekians
I kid I kid
I don't think hell was ever shown in the manga; it was shown in the anime a few times, but those apparitions seem to contradict Freeza being tortured in a cocoon
Hell was never shown in the manga but it was stated only good people could keep their bodies like Goku in the afterlife.
 
Hell was never shown in the manga but it was stated only good people could keep their bodies like Goku in the afterlife.

I guess Krillin, Roshi, and Chiaotzu were too perverted in Dragon Ball.

It feels pretty calm to me because of the singer's voice and a lot of the actual music. I would love them to bring back the Dragon Soul guys to do something like Kuu-Zen-Zetsu-Go, I love that song.

For me it's like that up until 00:40.
 
I can't wait until Goku and Vegeta's new outfits are considered the norm. Kinda sucked how Toriyama didn't bother updating Goku's outfit since the Saiyan Saga and Vegeta's since the Cell Games saga.
 
Who says it's his actual body? Shenron says Freeza's body is in pieces on Earth, his body in hell is probably more of a representation which helps in his torture.

Well he's in his Mecha Form when the movie starts and after the credits, he's back to his regular form, which implies it's his actual body or a body.

Not to mention he isn't one of those spirit forms that Goku saw while meeting King Yemma.
 
I can't wait until Goku and Vegeta's new outfits are considered the norm. Kinda sucked how Toriyama didn't bother updating Goku's outfit since the Saiyan Saga and Vegeta's since the Cell Games saga.

Goku had a different Gi in BoG and the BoG arc of Super, it's basically his Cell/Buu arc Gi, but with his "Go" symbol from the Namek arc on the front and back.

Well he's in his Mecha Form when the movie starts and after the credits, he's back to his regular form, which implies it's his actual body or a body.

Not to mention he isn't one of those spirit forms that Goku saw while meeting King Yemma.

So he was visualized in his own personal hell in the form he died in, I don't see the problem with that. He's given a representation of his body before he died and then he's not even able to move, seems like something they'd do in Hell to me, it's not like he gets to run around like Goku did. Also the spirits are people who are still waiting to be judged.
 
I can't help but shake the feeling that if I ask this question, I'll get the "well you should have been watching the show", kind of answer.

Uhh...what is this talk about new saiyans or some shit? Brief summary for those who are generous.
 
I can't help but shake the feeling that if I ask this question, I'll get the "well you should have been watching the show", kind of answer.

Uhh...what is this talk about new saiyans or some shit? Brief summary for those who are generous.

The new Saiyans will be from another Universe, the entire next story arc after F is based on Universe stuff.

What the fuck

She was introduced a long time ago in the Jaco manga, she's not new.
 
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