Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west

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Looks like a terrible game, but I cannot see much sense in attempting to scuttle people's chances to import it. Sometimes I wonder if certain people exist in an alternate reality where unlimited porn is not available at the click of a button. Video games seem pretty low on the harm factor list compared to things like rosebud videos.
 
"current climate around women in games" seriously wtf is this world coming to? It's funny how the internet is both the cause and the solution to this crap lol.
 
This whole scenario seems to me like a weird attempt at a PR stunt. Considering that there are gamers who are so bitter and spiteful that they'll spend money on a game just to stick it to them gosh-darned Ess Jay Dubyas, I think it might be working.
 
You quoted my post about how there wasn't actually anyone complaining about this game... to complain about all these hypothetical people complaining about the game... because... ?????

It was an open interpretation to the current state of affairs. Sure, no one says there's a current state of affairs or there wasn't anyone complaining.

The issue has been brought up time and time again. Either it exist or it doesn't, but I still feel compelled to share how I feel on the current zeitgeist or dominating mind within the social fabric of video game discussions. It is something like this has been brought to our attention and the attention of other people.

Rather or not DOAX3 is being released or not is still an issue because there are fans of the series that have purchased these games at a game store without any issues that I'm aware of.

If GG doesn't exist then there shouldn't be an article somewhere talking about. A former coworker should not have me explain the giant mess. If you ask me, I sit alone sometimes and I have this whirlpool of ideas about "what GG is" and it goes: "sexist games, journalism, sexist human beings, lies, 8chan, etc. etc."

I'm literally confused by how much I know about who all is involved. All I mean is that we fight these things more now than we did last gen. Either it's a journalist or someone commenting online about something. It still shows up. I could have a few drinks and think about GG and get mind boggled and then I'm here, posting about it. It's a confusing mess and it exists for the right and wrong reasons.
 
The Dead or Alive series has always been criticized for supposedly being sexist and misogynistic. These are issues that journalists have spoken with Tecmo about in the past. These are issues that Tecmo has addressed in interviews. This isn't a manufactured excuse.

DOAX3 isn't even released in Japan yet, so it's not surprising that "nobody" has complained about the game yet. That being said, it's disingenuous to pretend that this game wouldn't have suffered similar criticisms that previous games have shouldered.

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Anyone who thinks the threat of backlash or bad publicity wouldn't be a significant consideration in any cost-benefit analysis of localizing a game are kidding themselves.
But... why? People NOT buying the game who weren't going to buy the game anyway is not an issue.

If they were pissing off the people who were actually going to buy the game then your argument would make sense. But a bunch of people getting angry about a game that they're not going to buy that is intended for a very specific audience who will buy it regardless of any internet furor will have absolutely no impact on their bottom line.

"God damn it, that's 2000 negative tweets about this game! That'll cost us!"
 
Play Asia is still the only place selling the Saikyou Package with English subs so they'll be getting my money either way.

I couldn't care less about whats said on social media if I stopped buying from stores or places due to stupid things someone who works for that company says there would literally be no store to shop at.
 
You might be comfortable seeing your name online linked to articles claiming you are a misogynist or work for a company that hates women or (potentially) that profits off using pedophillic imagery but is it a stretch to imagine that others aren't comfortable with that?

Yes, it's pretty much completely implausible. I think someone has to either be actively dissembling or just extremely unaware of human behavior to find this a believable scenario. DOAX3 is by any objective measure tame compared to the material that's received the most controversy over sexist or inappropriate content, and yet all of that other stuff is still being sold and the reputations of the companies publishing it have remained basically unaffected. I do not think the idea that someone would work at Koei Tecmo -- hardly a newcomer to the brazen tittygame scene -- but be deeply personally ashamed at media criticism of such a title passes the smell test.
 
But... why? People NOT buying the game who weren't going to buy the game anyway is not an issue.

If they were pissing off the people who were actually going to buy the game then your argument would make sense. But a bunch of people getting angry about a game that they're not going to buy that is intended for a very specific audience who will buy it regardless of any internet furor will have absolutely no impact on their bottom line.

"God damn it, that's 2000 negative tweets about this game! That'll cost us!"

Maybe it's just not worth the negative PR? If it's not going to sell a lot to begin with, why gamble with the headache that it might cause?
 
The Dead or Alive series has always been criticized for supposedly being sexist and misogynistic. These are issues that journalists have spoken with Tecmo about in the past. These are issues that Tecmo has addressed in interviews. This isn't a manufactured excuse.

DOAX3 isn't even released in Japan yet, so it's not surprising that "nobody" has complained about the game yet. That being said, it's disingenuous to pretend that this game wouldn't have suffered similar criticisms that previous games have shouldered.

The Physics of Sexism
After 'Gamergate': The Five Most Sexist Video Games Of All Time
The 5 Most Sexist Games of this Generation
Dead or Alive 5 is fighting sexism.. no it isn’t
Top 10: Blatantly Misogynistic Games
Misogyny in video gaming: sexist apologists abound in the community

Anyone who thinks the threat of backlash or bad publicity wouldn't be a significant consideration in any cost-benefit analysis of localizing a game are kidding themselves.
DOA games do get localized. Same with Senran Kagura, Onechanbara, etc.

What's the difference, suddenly? I bought DOA5 on Steam this year.
 
SJW is a reactionary dog whistle at this point. there is no non-ironic use of the term that isn't shitty.

keep jumping through those hoops I guess.
 
The Dead or Alive series has always been criticized for supposedly being sexist and misogynistic. These are issues that journalists have spoken with Tecmo about in the past. These are issues that Tecmo has addressed in interviews. This isn't a manufactured excuse.

DOAX3 isn't even released in Japan yet, so it's not surprising that "nobody" has complained about the game yet. That being said, it's disingenuous to pretend that this game wouldn't have suffered similar criticisms that previous games have shouldered.

The Physics of Sexism
After 'Gamergate': The Five Most Sexist Video Games Of All Time
The 5 Most Sexist Games of this Generation
Dead or Alive 5 is fighting sexism.. no it isn’t
Top 10: Blatantly Misogynistic Games
Misogyny in video gaming: sexist apologists abound in the community

Anyone who thinks the threat of backlash or bad publicity wouldn't be a significant consideration in any cost-benefit analysis of localizing a game are kidding themselves.

DoA is already in the dumpster in that regard. One more minor game will not effect that.
 
Play Asia is still the only place selling the Saikyou Package with English subs so they'll be getting my money either way.

I couldn't care less about whats said on social media if I stopped buying from stores or places due to stupid things someone who works for that company says there would literally be no store to shop at.
Im legit shocked at this backlash toward play asia am i to assume everybody in this thread dnt buy from sony,Microsoft,bethseda etc because ive seen much worst
 
Some bad taste tweets we got here... but i laughed.
I actually think that the talks of the portrayals of women in video games actually helped the decision to not port the game in the West, absolutely not the sole reason but sure it's been a part of it.
And i also think that is dumb trying to deny that, because that would mean denying that talking about the issues is actually giving a message to developers.
 
Maybe it's just not worth the negative PR? If it's not going to sell a lot to begin with, why gamble with the headache that it might cause?
DOA has ALWAYS been associated with excessive fan service. Jiggle physics, sexy costumes, pre-order bonuses... The negative PR has never stopped them before.
 
The Dead or Alive series has always been criticized for supposedly being sexist and misogynistic. These are issues that journalists have spoken with Tecmo about in the past. These are issues that Tecmo has addressed in interviews. This isn't a manufactured excuse.

DOAX3 isn't even released in Japan yet, so it's not surprising that "nobody" has complained about the game yet. That being said, it's disingenuous to pretend that this game wouldn't have suffered similar criticisms that previous games have shouldered.

The Physics of Sexism
After 'Gamergate': The Five Most Sexist Video Games Of All Time
The 5 Most Sexist Games of this Generation
Dead or Alive 5 is fighting sexism.. no it isn’t
Top 10: Blatantly Misogynistic Games
Misogyny in video gaming: sexist apologists abound in the community

Anyone who thinks the threat of backlash or bad publicity wouldn't be a significant consideration in any cost-benefit analysis of localizing a game are kidding themselves. If the game sold GTA numbers, it wouldn't matter. For a niche title, the threat of backlash could be a determining factor in not localizing the game (which appears to be what has happened in this case.)
Between this thread and the Kotaku blacklist, I'm starting to suspect a trend with you.
 
DOA games do get localized. Same with Senran Kagura, Onechanbara, etc.

What's the difference, suddenly? I bought DOA5 on Steam this year.

To be fair, there is something that DOA5, Senran Kagura and Oneechanbara all have in common that DOAX does not have.
 
Imagine being someone who enjoys the DOA fighting system but hates what the game is now.

I think Marie's lingerie is where I threw up my hands (and lunch) and checked out.
 
For what? Saying the truth, that is at least according to the company?

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Still though, despite the reason being justified people will find a way to argue this.

Wouldn't call it career suicide myself. Perhaps PA is confident in their consumer base they don't have to worry about these comments. Considering the retweets, favorites, and responses on these, it's far from suicide. They basically said what most people thought
 
Their FAQ says otherwise but I accept that may just be ass covering.

Will they do it even for new customers?

Huh, could've sworn there was a gifting option.

Imagine being someone who enjoys the DOA fighting system but hates what the game is now.

I think Marie's lingerie is where I threw up my hands (and lunch) and checked out.

Hey that's me!

I really think Marie is a shitty character that doesn't belong in DOA, but I guess I'm a prude or something.
 
They didn't need to do that. They could've said other things for 'funny' PR that doesn't involve throwing SJW around.
Though if Play-Asia are hiring a new PR guy, I would work for food.

I need to preorder DoAX3 still.
 
DOA has ALWAYS been associated with excessive fan service. Jiggle physics, sexy costumes, pre-order bonuses... The negative PR has never stopped them before.

Sometimes enough is enough.
Besides, the whining and complaining has ramped up quite a bit in the past few years (which is also the timeframe they said they've been thinking about this).
 
This makes me feel awful for consistently supporting them for over seven years now. Hopefully this is just some wacko in their social media department.

Why would you retroactively feel bad from one twitter post? Did you enjoy what you bought from them and your previous business experiences?
 
Censorship or eliminating games with pandering isnt the answer but to create content that attracts or takes care of these issues to counter attack those who do pandering giving people more options to play. IMO the issue here is that people want to stop those games from existing when they don't have to buy it. Take a look at Senran Kagura,Onechanbara, Dragon's Crown, some visual novels dropping on Steam and other stuff. Not many talk about those and overall there are ways to make content to please different audiences without having to remove games that actually are catered to a niche.
 
Sometimes enough is enough.
Besides, the whining and complaining has ramped up quite a bit in the past few years (which is also the timeframe they said they've been thinking about this).
And again... what does the whining do other than give their PR department something to do?

The people whining are not going to be the people buying the game, and they're probably not going to convince anyone who wants to buy the game not to either. It has a specific audience and that audience evidently doesn't give a fuck.
 
DOA has ALWAYS been associated with excessive fan service. Jiggle physics, sexy costumes, pre-order bonuses... The negative PR has never stopped them before.

But this one seems to be pushing it even further, more realistic graphics, VR and now with Loli type characters etc. Add the fact that people want better representation of females in gaming, it could just be the tipping point.
 
Imagine being someone who enjoys the DOA fighting system but hates what the game is now.

I think Marie's lingerie is where I threw up my hands (and lunch) and checked out.

haters stay hatin

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