Jawmuncher
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I still think tony stark is dying in this.
Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut
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Lol at you thinking that that is just a Walking Dead trope.
Yep, the registration isn't just to reveal identities, it's to keep these potential threats in check and make them stand down if given an order.
Manmademan
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it isn't, but Walking dead is probably the most blatant about it. "hey, a new black guy. i wonder if...*30 minutes later*...yup"
edit: I'm about a season and a half behind things on that show, so the comment isn't meant to refer to anything recent.
two super soldiers vs one guy in armor. of course they can.
That would be a bad decision. Marvel needs to just go with Steve Rogers dying, Bucky taking over the role of Cap, and Rogers being brought back (because he wasn't really dead or infinity gem) in time to die to Thanos.
I will never get the "nerfing" stuff. Comic book hero powers are always only as consistent as what the writers feel will look cool.
BronsonLee
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FUCKING HELL this move right here
SomedayTheFire
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Rogers dying and Stark surviving would be truly truly awful.
Pai Pai Master
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No one is dying in this movie
Cue the complaining about no tension or consequences
Cue the complaining about no tension or consequences
Cap was holding down a goddamn helicopter.
Primethius
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BREAKING NEWS
Ant-Man has been found in the trailer!
It's fake.
Davey Cakes
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Captain America: The Winter Soldier beat my expectations. I'm lukewarm on most of the Marvel movies, even The Avengers, but something about Cap 2 just hit the spot.
I guess I liked the action and the more "contained" scope of the movie.
Civil War looks like it'll be in the same ballpark. I'm actually excited for a new Marvel movie, for once!
I guess I liked the action and the more "contained" scope of the movie.
Civil War looks like it'll be in the same ballpark. I'm actually excited for a new Marvel movie, for once!
Manmademan
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I'm beginning to think MCU Cap might be a *bit* OP
The thing I loved about Winter Soldier is that, even though I knew that Cap wasn't going to die, it still felt like that possibility was there.
boiled goose
good with gravy
smaller stakes are sometimes better.
Saved the world so many times already.
It seems they are trying to make this personal. Rhodey, Bucky, etc.
Napoleonthechimp
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To be fair the guy seems at the upper limit of what he could handle there.
spindashing
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Hahaha.
EL CUCO
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R U S S O b o y z
Manmademan
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616 Cap isn't "peak human" either. There have been many long threads on this one.
Short story is that the old 80s handbooks weren't any more accurate than the 90s trading cards. The comics portrayed cap as clearly superhuman.
Holding down helicopters from launching might be a bit of a stretch though, even for him.
Pai Pai Master
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Even if he was destined to get out of it alive, it still hurts to see him get punched the fuck up by his best bro
"Tension" does not require the hero to die in every movie, will never understand why death is always a requirement for some people to say the movie has real stakes
captjohnboyd
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The smaller scope was always what made Winter Soldier the best of the Marvel movies. Okay the amazing action too. And the feeling of real stakes for our protags.
This shit has me so hyped. Black Panther looks amazing. I for one actually loved his running scene. Make his power evident right away in the trailer. This dude is not to be trifled with.
Disappointing no Spidey but in reality if they skip showing him so we all see him at the same time in the movie would be so much better no matter how much my inner fanboy cries
I don't think it's so much that someone has to die in order for tension, but that there's been so much "punched the fuck up" in these Marvel movies that it loses it's sense of tension. Not to say it can't be done by a proper writer/director but so far, to me at least, the sense of real danger has lessened for a lot of these films
This shit has me so hyped. Black Panther looks amazing. I for one actually loved his running scene. Make his power evident right away in the trailer. This dude is not to be trifled with.
Disappointing no Spidey but in reality if they skip showing him so we all see him at the same time in the movie would be so much better no matter how much my inner fanboy cries
I don't think it's so much that someone has to die in order for tension, but that there's been so much "punched the fuck up" in these Marvel movies that it loses it's sense of tension. Not to say it can't be done by a proper writer/director but so far, to me at least, the sense of real danger has lessened for a lot of these films
BronsonLee
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I'm dying at them just double teaming Stark and passing the shield around like total assholes
'FUCK YOU TONY, YOU DON'T GET HELP' *bonk*
'FUCK YOU TONY, YOU DON'T GET HELP' *bonk*
Pai Pai Master
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Black Panther is assuredly on Black Panther's side
George Oscar Bluth II
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Yep.
Yeah, that complaint has never made much sense to me.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
The action, Black Panther, the tag-team fight...
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
T'Challa has no fucks to give for anything nor anybody not called Wakanda.
Get it right and get it now, folks.
Get it right and get it now, folks.
What made you disinterested recently about them?
BronsonLee
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He's on the side of kings.
Jawmuncher
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I'm just greedy. Being mad at your bro and getting in a scrap doesn't do much for me story wise.
Really excited for this - probably my most hyped upcoming movie. I was kinda surprised how much the trailer focused on Bucky and not the whole registration act plot, but honestly I think the Bucky motivation is a lot easier to understand and more relatable to audiences watching the trailer.
Also, I'm wondering if Marvel might hold back on emphasizing the registration plot point in the run-up to the movie... it's kind of a far-flung connection, but when you have Donald Trump spouting off about registering Muslims nationwide, having a movie where two superheroes debate the merits of a national registry might give it a bit more (unintended) political relevance than the marketing department might be comfortable with.
Not that the movie would shy away from political undertones - one reason I liked the Winter Soldier was that it was willing to go beyond standard superhero action to bring up issues with pre-emptive first strikes and the balance between security vs. freedom, and I hope this movie is able to do the same.
Also, I'm wondering if Marvel might hold back on emphasizing the registration plot point in the run-up to the movie... it's kind of a far-flung connection, but when you have Donald Trump spouting off about registering Muslims nationwide, having a movie where two superheroes debate the merits of a national registry might give it a bit more (unintended) political relevance than the marketing department might be comfortable with.
Not that the movie would shy away from political undertones - one reason I liked the Winter Soldier was that it was willing to go beyond standard superhero action to bring up issues with pre-emptive first strikes and the balance between security vs. freedom, and I hope this movie is able to do the same.
Looks solid. Was hoping we'd see Vision, but we got some Wanda so I'm satisfied. And General Thaddeus "Motherfucking Thunderbolt" Ross! Goddamn, never thought I'd see the day.
And yeah, #TeamStark here. Bucky ain't shit.
Honestly, I'm getting the same vibe. Does the guy have any legitimate friends? Most of them (Happy, Pepper, Stane) are employees, and Stane betrayed him. SHIELD and the Avengers are coworkers at best. It's pretty much just Rhodey - and it feels like Rhodey is just tolerating him half the time. Stark is good with machines but awful with people. Guys like Cap and Banner and Coulson are the closest things to actual relationships he has.
He's constantly fucking up, trying to fix the problem, fucking up harder, and alienating everyone around him in the process. It's tragic, really, and this would be the movie to explore it... if they bother to.
And yeah, #TeamStark here. Bucky ain't shit.
Honestly, I'm getting the same vibe. Does the guy have any legitimate friends? Most of them (Happy, Pepper, Stane) are employees, and Stane betrayed him. SHIELD and the Avengers are coworkers at best. It's pretty much just Rhodey - and it feels like Rhodey is just tolerating him half the time. Stark is good with machines but awful with people. Guys like Cap and Banner and Coulson are the closest things to actual relationships he has.
He's constantly fucking up, trying to fix the problem, fucking up harder, and alienating everyone around him in the process. It's tragic, really, and this would be the movie to explore it... if they bother to.
"Hey! Me from 6 years ago! There's going to be a Civil War movie! It got Black Panther in it! Captain America will be your favorite Avenger! You're going to just love The Falcon!"
"Yeah right, future me. Next you'll tell me Ant-Man will get a movie and it'll be fantastic."
... We live in enlightened times, my friends.
"Yeah right, future me. Next you'll tell me Ant-Man will get a movie and it'll be fantastic."
... We live in enlightened times, my friends.
SomedayTheFire
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No because he's an awful human being.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Age of Ultron being so blah.
Ant-Man being fun but ultimately forgettable.
Guardians of the Galaxy being kinda boring on what is my third time watching it after a long break from the last rewatch.
I also rewatched Spider-Man 2 and realised how much I enjoyed it compared to MCU films save The Winter Soldier.
BronsonLee
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Rhodey is his best bud, but he clearly loves Pepper and Happy is his friend too. He's just abrasive.
Pai Pai Master
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It's not just about the punching - Bucky Barnes is Captain America's greatest failure, in death and his rebirth. Steve couldn't save his friend and countless atrocities were committed as a direct result. After all that he finally gets the chance to rescue Bucky and he still fails. Winter Soldier ends with Captain America failing at his most important personal objective even if they did stop Hydra. But I feel like some people won't be happy here unless Civil War ends with Cap's bullet riddled corpse - as if that's what would make it a great movie.
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