Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut

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So I imagine Black Panther working with Tony is more of a "We have similar interests, Don't get in my way" thing.

Trust me. Black Panther is playing these fools. Think about it. We know he won't give a shit about America's superhero problems. We know he cares about Vibranium. Who currently has a somewhat substantial supply of Vibranium? Captain America. And who supplied him with that Vibranium? Howard Stark. And who killed Stark? Bucky.

He has a direct interest in this.
 
Don't like the change in motivation of the conflict from the comics tbh.

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Motivation isn't solely Bucky, though.

The Sokovia Accords seem to be a way that regulate at least The Avengers. And Ross was talking about how they had "unlimited power and no supervision" - clearly hinting at some sort of registration. And it wouldn't make sense to have Spider-Man in this movie, since he would've been completely disconnected from the Avengers before Cap: Civil War. So, there's at least something relating to other powered/gifted people, and one can assume registering them.
 
The blocking alone in every single dialogue shot looks like a televison show. A bad one. Those middle shots with upper body/face...it's hard to believe it's a cinematographer's work. No one lights something so flat on purpose.

EDIT : just look at how soft the screen neojubei posted . It's almost unnaceptable

It's obviously a deliberate color palette but I still don't see how's it's clearly poorly done. The whole film looks like it'll have a soft color filter for a grittier look. Most people seem to not have such a visceral distaste like you do, but I can understand finding certain choices in color grading unappealing.

And I also don't understand what's bad about the dialogue blocking. You described how the overwhelmingly vast majority of all dialogue scenes are filmed.
 
I don't think T'Challa will be just there for the vibranium.

I guess the worldleaders had a heated debate after Sokavia and T'Challa was there for the first time in years, because when the Hulk smashed up South-Africa those super powered types are closing in on Wakanda. So he agrees with the Sokavia accord, but in secret he scopes out the Avengers and investigates if they can be trusted.

Sadly, he sees two sides fucking up.

But I guess he'll join the new Avengers team after Civil War.
 
Could Ant Man disable Vision?

Ant man can reduce anyone he wants to sub microscopic size with those discs, where the rules of spacetime completely break down and you're left defenseless.

There is absolutely NO way to stop this. Hilariously broken.

edit: alternatively there's nothing stopping him from doing the reverse and turning himself into Giant Man. with no Hulk around he'd easily be the strongest dude in the film.
 
Ant man can reduce anyone he wants to sub microscopic size with those discs, where the rules of spacetime completely break down and you're left defenseless.

There is absolutely NO way to stop this. Hilariously broken.

edit: alternatively there's nothing stopping him from doing the reverse and turning himself into Giant Man. with no Hulk around he'd easily be the strongest dude in the film.

Vision can manipulate his density though, disc would go straight through him.
 
I hope Vision's like "None of you even wear a cape" and just floats up towards the sun, never to be seen again for the rest of the movie.
 
I don't think it would. As far as I'm aware in the MCU the 'realms' are actually just other planets which are linked by Ygdrassil.

Thor 2 references them as "realms" which align once every 5000 years or whatever. When these realms- not planets- align the laws of physics break down between the nine realms and portals appear.

This makes absolutely no sense if we were talking about planets. Especially since it requires us to believe that Odin doesn't know the difference between whats a "realm" and what's a "planet."

It also requires us to believe that starships are just not a thing that asgardians have, since Thor 1 has them cut off from earth when bifrost is destroyed. Given that Dark Elves clearly have them in Thor 2, and everyone and their grandmother has one capable of getting to earth in GOTG, this one doesn't make sense.
 
Ant man can reduce anyone he wants to sub microscopic size with those discs, where the rules of spacetime completely break down and you're left defenseless.

There is absolutely NO way to stop this. Hilariously broken.

edit: alternatively there's nothing stopping him from doing the reverse and turning himself into Giant Man. with no Hulk around he'd easily be the strongest dude in the film.

An out there hope would be Giant Man and Red Hulk but there's so much going on already.
 
Black Panther best part of the trailer, hope he gets decent screentime in the final cut of the film, the heavy focus on Tony has me worried.

From this trailer Cap motivations seem to be driven by very superfluous reasons to start a war with his former comrades, and I'm not even sure why would Hawkeye help him in his cause when he was behind Shield tracking down all superhumans in order to keep them in line.
 
An out there hope would be Giant Man and Red Hulk but there's so much going on already.

you people need to let the red hulk stuff go.

Black Panther best part of the trailer, hope he gets decent screentime in the final cut of the film, the heavy focus on Tony has me worried.

From this trailer Cap motivations seem to be driven by very superfluous reasons to start a war with his former comrades, and I'm not even sure why would Hawkeye help him in his cause when he was behind Shield tracking down all superhumans in order to keep them in line.

Watch the trailer again. Thunderbolt Ross is starting a superhuman registration and deployment protocol, and has sent a death squad after bucky.

that doesn't dound like "superfluous reasons."
 
Black Panther best part of the trailer, hope he gets decent screentime in the final cut of the film, the heavy focus on Tony has me worried.

From this trailer Cap motivations seem to be driven by very superfluous reasons to start a war with his former comrades, and I'm not even sure why would Hawkeye help him in his cause when he was behind Shield tracking down all superhumans in order to keep them in line.

Regarding to Barton. SHIELD doesn't exist anymore and while he was doing that (keeping tabs, probably some more shady stuff) HYDRA was alive inside SHIELD as well, probably he doesn't want to be back to that out of principle and probably since he's very close to Nat he will do the same Steve is doing for Bucky for her.

Don't see how superflous is that motive.
 
Black Panther best part of the trailer, hope he gets decent screentime in the final cut of the film, the heavy focus on Tony has me worried.

From this trailer Cap motivations seem to be driven by very superfluous reasons to start a war with his former comrades, and I'm not even sure why would Hawkeye help him in his cause when he was behind Shield tracking down all superhumans in order to keep them in line.

His screentime will go up with the next Avengers film once his inevitably become a fan favorite
 
People had concerns this would be Avengers 2.5 instead of Cap 3, but it appears it's absolutely a Cap film, revolving around Cap and Bucky.
 

Bit more on Hurt's character

“We thought it would be interesting to take a character who had a fanatical anti-superhero point of view,” says Joe Russo of Ross, who once saw his prospective son-in-law turn big and green and mean. “Now he’s become much savvier and more political and has put himself in a position of power, not unlike a Colin Powell. He’s cornering the Avengers politically now, he’s out-manoeuvring them.”

on Zemo:

“Zemo in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is not Zemo from the comics, and what’s interesting and surprising is that we don’t always honour the mythology from the books,” says Joe Russo, dancing around the question. “One, because it’s predictable and two, it’s not servicing the story in the way we want. So, if Zemo were in this movie, I think people should expect that it’s going to be something fresh and exciting.”
 
On Black Panther's outfit
“It’s a combination of a practical costume and VFX. It’s a vibranium weave, a mesh, almost like a chainmail. Luminescence is something we have to do in post,” says Joe Russo. That the Black Panther’s suit is made out of vibranium should not come as a surprise – Age Of Ultron established that Wakanda is the MCU’s source of vibranium, the near-unbreakable metal out of which Cap’s shield is forged. Taking on a guy clad in that entire metal is going to be tricky.

And what of the Panther’s role in the movie? “He’s there for a very different reason which brings him into conflict with Cap and his team,” adds Joe. “His motivations are not their motivations.”
 
I am now more hyped than ever.

Anthony Russo said:
The arc we’re tracking for Captain America, the thing we thought would be most interesting with this character when we came on board to direct Winter Soldier was to take him from the most ra-ra company man that you could get, this character who was a somewhat willing propagandist, and by the end of the third film he’s an insurgent.

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