Captain America: Civil War Trailer #1 Debut
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Slayven, you need to find me panels with a fight between Gambit and Batroc Zeh LepääärPeople might start asking questions if Nomad shows up in Dr.Strange.
I don't want Falcon as Cap yet. He hasn't had enough time to shine as just Falcon and I don't think he should become big as CA. Bucky at least would make sense first as a redemption kind of thing and then in the future after Falcon is featured more I would like to see him as Cap.
but who knows if they'll go there.
I also think the trailer is tricking us into thinking it's Bucky who ripped it out but I think it's someone else.
He is. I think he might
die and return for IW
I can see it but I just feel like that's me convincing myself because Bucky does look extremely angry.
I also think the trailer is tricking us into thinking it's Bucky who ripped it out but I think it's someone else.
Makes sense since War Machine
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is not in Tonys Team
My god, you really have a Panel for everything.
Broken Joystick
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Haha yeah same. Looks to be in the same scene where he's fighting with Cap so wouldn't make sense.
And yeah, doesn't make much sense since Iron Man and War Machine would be flying about. You can see the smoke coming out of the hole in his chest. Might have been a really good shot by Hawkeye? Who knows.
I caved yesterday and started ordering all the BluRays for the MCU movies. TFA was my first order.
Funnily enough I didn't really like TFA on my first viewing. Took me a couple of watches to appreciate it.
Broken Joystick
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Falcon simply because Anthony Mackie >> Sebastian Stan.
What did he mean by this?
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I think that before Infinity War all the Avengers will be scattered in some way
I think Bucky will bite the bullet instead of Cap.
Cap will end up in prison.
Tony will be depressed or disgraced.
Falcon off with Fury and Widow doing whatever
Hulk and Thor are already off in space.
Vision and Witch off doing gods know what.
Then I think Doctor Strange post-credit stinger will be him making contact with Adam Warlock from GotG2 to gather Earth's mightiest heroes in preparation for Thanos.
I think Bucky will bite the bullet instead of Cap.
Cap will end up in prison.
Tony will be depressed or disgraced.
Falcon off with Fury and Widow doing whatever
Hulk and Thor are already off in space.
Vision and Witch off doing gods know what.
Then I think Doctor Strange post-credit stinger will be him making contact with Adam Warlock from GotG2 to gather Earth's mightiest heroes in preparation for Thanos.
Batroc can bitchslap apocalypse, confirmed.
fallengorn
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I hope they get a good fight scene or two together.
Steve comes back in time to get his neck snapped by a Thanos backhand.
Broken Joystick
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Speculation:
Some people think that this bit in the trailer is the place where he goes and turns into Red Hulk. It looks guarded, and while we don't see what is there, it might be some sort of cage/containment for him to have a more controlled transformation into Red Hulk. Again, not really based from anything, but fun to speculate.
I doubt we see that (more like hope we don't). But Ross is there because the government needs an authoritative figure on its side since Fury and SHIELD are on the outs. He's the only guy in the MCU right now that can fit that bill that wouldn't be a new character they would have to introduce to the audience.
Even if no one remembers him as a character, all you need is an establishing line like "General Ross, you've been hunting the Hulk down for years and now you want to do that to every hero not onboard with this?"
Manmademan
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pretty much zero, I think.
red hulk
red hulk
Ross is in the film because he makes for a plausible antagonist, and one that they've already set up in-universe without having to invent another crazy government antagonist out of thin air.
This movie is going to have to be at least three hours if they're doing Red Hulk too.
Iron Man
War Machine
Black Widow
Vision
Spider-Man
Captain America
Winter Soldier
Falcon
Ant-Man
Sharon Carter
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye
Black Panther
Crossbones
Baron Zemo
plus Red Hulk origin story? Too much, I think.
Iron Man
War Machine
Black Widow
Vision
Spider-Man
Captain America
Winter Soldier
Falcon
Ant-Man
Sharon Carter
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye
Black Panther
Crossbones
Baron Zemo
plus Red Hulk origin story? Too much, I think.
I would honestly be okay with that.
Manmademan
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Agreed. I trust the russos and this scriptwriter to keep things as tight as possible. This is a captain america story, not an avengers or incredible hulk story.
Hell, hulk isn't even in this. Why create a hulk villain for it?
BKatastrophe
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Oh it'll definitely be Bucky, and it's a good arc, but it's an arc we've seen with other mantle successors. Wally West, Dick Grayson, etc. Characters who felt they needed to prove themselves to the mantle and stand up to what it represents.
Sam had that for a little bit, but now his arc is more about doing what he believes, in his eyes, Captain America SHOULD be, and I find that just as, if not more, interesting of an arc. Don't get me wrong, Bucky has a good arc as well, I just like Sam's more.
Samesies.
Bucky doesn't have the serum either. Besides, Sam is currently Captain America. And he's a boss at it, too.
Not that much of an achievement, honestly.
Assuming there is a god: Never.
Not all those characters require much though. Crossbones will be an opening setpiece jobber to kick-start the plot. War Machine unlikely has much to do beyond just be on Tony's side. Same with Hawkeye or Falcon. Ant-Man will show up to crack afew jokes.
The One and Done
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Sure he can.
Looks amazing
NotTheGuyYouKill
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If Steve "died", then Bucky would take up the shield as his redemption and Falcon would be his guide/partner, while Natasha becomes his romantic interest.
Duh.
Duh.
When you put it that way... it seems like there's a good chance this movie is gonna come in well below expectations. Overstuffing is probably the MCU's biggest consistent problem outside of a lack of strong antagonists. See: Iron Man 2, Age of Ultron, the inexplicable "Go get this widget from the Avengers" scene in Ant-Man. You just can't do a good movie if you make half of it a commercial for its sequels.
Print that. It will happen.
Angelus Errare
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I'm still thinking forming the Thunderbolts but with the Abomination. Early plans were for the Abomination to show up in Age of Ultron.
I think I just don't like Sebastian Stan as The Winter Soldier character. Something about him seems off, which is weird, because I liked him fine in the first Cap movie, I just think he doesn't look the part. To be fair his identity was ambiguous in the first half of WS, and he was pretty brainwashed, but I just don't really have that much compassion for Cap's cause going into Civil War. They need to have some really good scenes early in the movie to re-establish their modern relationship, considering how much the two of them have changed. I think they can do it, that flashback in WS was pretty touching, as was the "Your mother, Sarah" scene from the trailer, there's promise there for sure.
CaviarMeths
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At this point, people are going to lose their shit if Steve is still Cap at the end of the movie.
thetrin
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Sure he can.
I REALLY don't like his mask design, but it's awesome to see Falcon as Cap now. Looking forward to seeing where they go with him in ANAD Marvel.
thetrin
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I'm cool with it. He hasn't been Cap nearly long enough for him to bow out just yet. After IW, I'm cool with a changing of the guard.
First Avenger was meh, Avengers always underuses Cap (even Ultron didn't use him enough, but it was better than Avengers), so really we have only had one movie, soon to be two, where Steve Rogers is being the Cap we all remember.
Most probably, the hunt for Bucky will be an accelerant at best. They don't call it the Sokovia Accords for the acronym.
thetrin
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Hugo Weaving has said he never wants to reprise the role, right?
Broken Joystick
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neurosisxeno
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I was just reminded while reading through this topic, the scene where Cap wiggles Mjollnir. I think that alone is indicative of him sticking around until Thanos shows up. It could just be an easter egg for Comic fans, but the inclusion of that scene and the way they shot it makes it clear Cap is the only one aside from Thor with the potential to use Mjollnir, and legitimizes the idea that they will have him wield it at a later time.
If they did "kill" Cap, I highly doubt it would be permanent. It might just be done the same way Nick Fury was. Since they started working on Civil War Chris Evans seems to have changed his mind and is now saying in interviews he would like to continue the role despite outright saying he wanted out when his contract was done.
If they did "kill" Cap, I highly doubt it would be permanent. It might just be done the same way Nick Fury was. Since they started working on Civil War Chris Evans seems to have changed his mind and is now saying in interviews he would like to continue the role despite outright saying he wanted out when his contract was done.
He never said that. He were misunderstood.
They could easily "kill off" Steve in Civil War and bring him back for Infinity War. Besides, Vision already held Mjolnir.
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