Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer

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This trailer spoiled the movie so hard that I went and read the spoiler summary of the movie.

Bad editing, especially when the music picks up again after ending in an epic splash. It's like they forgot to slap in the year and did it all last minute.
 
Nothing stands on its own anymore, there are no arcs for the main heroes. It all about setting up future crossovers rather than telling a good story. The last comic book movie I enjoyed was Guardians of the galaxy because it kept the crossover stuff to a minimum and focused on Star Lord. It was nothing amazing but I didn't feel like it was just setting up a crossover with Iron Man.

This movie exists because WB need to launch their own universe to compete with Marvel, not because they have a great story to tell. Crossovers with multiple heroes should be the side dish to the single-hero films. Not the main course.

So what movies is this crossing over, then? Man of Steel and... just Man of Steel. The Batman and Wonder Woman movies don't exist yet. Those characters are being introduced here, and this is literally only 'Part 2' of the DC Universe story they're telling. Are... are sequels not supposed to introduce new characters? And yeah, this movie exists to set up Justice League. Comic book movies have set up sequels for a long-ass time in-fact. Is that a problem too?

I just read Matt Wagner's Trinity not too long ago. Is that a crossover? It introduces all three characters, and told a complete arc. Is... is it not supposed to do that?
 
How? Were people seriously not thinking they were going to team up by the end or something?

I figured the Batman/Superman fight would be the climax of the movie ala Dark Knight Returns, as suggested by the title and all the marketing so far, and then they'd get their sequel hooks in with a quick, dumb "hurr hurr what should we call ourselves" *smash cut to Justice League title card* thing. Now it seems like another one of the exhausting three hour, double-climax affairs that Hollywood blockbusters have been so fond of recently, where the movie wraps up its main storyline and then just keeps going for another forty-five minutes anyway.
 
I know exactly which comic you're talking about.

When LEx said maybe the devil will do it, for a half second I thought he was going to get some artifact and turn into Magog/Gog

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This was pretty much my reaction. Don't give a fuck about the tone, editing, music, nit picking dialogue...its fucking Batman and Superman with WW in the same movie fighting fucking Doomsday. I've been waiting my who life for this shit.

Yet people shit their pants for 73yo Harrison Ford and Captain fighting IM and WS in slow motion.

Trailer is actually pretty bad. Didn't really feel like an ordinary trailer. But i don't give a shit because seeing everything in live action for the first time just makes my 8yo self cry like a bitch. I dig the Bat voice too.
I've been waiting for it too since my childhood. That's why I want it to be good. I'm still waiting on a good Fantastic Four movie. Just because it's finally happening doesn't mean I'm not worried it'll fuck up.
 
This was pretty much my reaction. Don't give a fuck about the tone, editing, music, nit picking dialogue...its fucking Batman and Superman with WW in the same movie fighting fucking Doomsday. I've been waiting my who life for this shit.

Yet people shit their pants for 73yo Harrison Ford and Captain fighting IM and WS in slow motion.

Trailer is actually pretty bad. Didn't really feel like an ordinary trailer. But i don't give a shit because seeing everything in live action for the first time just makes my 8yo self cry like a bitch. I dig the Bat voice too.

Nah fam we've had way too many batman and superman movies at this point so best believe I'm gonna be nitpicking the tone, editing, music and the dialogue. The novelty wore off a long time ago so seeing these dudes in live action alone doesn't cut it anymore and it honestly never did.
 
I feel like im the only one who thought Bats thought he was gonna get fried and put his hands up like the reactionary defense mechanism when you fall. This movie looks jumbled but also more fun than previous trailers. Doomsday looks like the bone spikes are coming through...roll on March
 
Why are people making a big deal about Doomsday being revealed/ supposedly getting the shaft being relegated to BvS's finale-punching bag.

Y'all forget he sucks as a character as does the main story arc he was tied to?

If anything this is doing him more justice than he deserves probably.
 
BTW Batman totally knows Clark is Superman in that party scene. Just look at the smirk and his hot-could-have-been-said-by-LL-Cool-J-in-a rap-beef-line about men in clown costumes.

There is only one great thing about the original Doomsday storyline. It lead to this beautiful motherfucker:

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Look at all that style. 3 billion box office if DC ever had the balls to make this movie. Every woman, man, and child would start dressing like him. Your wife would only think about him during sex and you will be seen as a lesser man. You're kid would eventually change his name to Konner in honor of him.
 
Can we talk about Batman's "how not to get melted by laser-beams strategy"?

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Pretty sure when faced with a giant mutant monster for the first time with crazy laser vision ready to fire right at you, even Batman is going to respond with an "oh shit."

Oh hey, whaddya know, he does.
 
I feel like im the only one who thought Bats thought he was gonna get fried and put his hands up like the reactionary defense mechanism when you fall. This movie looks jumbled but also more fun than previous trailers. Doomsday looks like the bone spikes are coming through...roll on March

Nah, man. Batman saw what was going to happen enough to say "Oh, shit". Comic Book Batman would stare into the beam until it eviscerated him, not flinch like a kid who just saw his parents get shot.
 
BTW Batman totally knows Clark is Superman in that party scene. Just look at the smirk and his hot-could-have-been-said-by-LL-Cool-J-in-a rap-beef-line about men in clown costumes.

yeah he totally sized him up and smirked after he said that line.

i wonder if clark knows he knows tho.
 
Nah, man. Batman saw what was going to happen enough to say "Oh, shit". Batman would stare into the beam until it eviscerated him, not flinch like a kid who just saw his parents get shot.

You know i get that. I dont really care if its different from multiversal balls of steel Batman. He faced down Darkseid's Omega Beams...with nary a word.
 
How? Were people seriously not thinking they were going to team up by the end or something?

It's almost hilarious to think Batman and Superman would square off in a movie called Batman v Superman, right?

Of course they'd team up by the end, it's not subtitled Dawn of Justice for nothing. Most people just wish we'd get 2,5 hours of Batman v Superman. But this trailer makes it seem like the Batman v Superman bit is just a small portion of the movie.
Compare it to Civil War, where there's actually a Civil War going on, which most likely won't be resolved before the third act of the movie.
 
BTW Batman totally knows Clark is Superman in that party scene. Just look at the smirk and his hot-could-have-been-said-by-LL-Cool-J-in-a rap-beef-line about men in clown costumes.

I'd expect one of the best detectives in the world, who's seen a decade+ of super power shenanigans, to know off the bat that Clark is Superman. No hunching, glasses, hair style, or face muscle warping should be enough to fool the goddamn batman.
 
It's almost hilarious to think Batman and Superman would square off in a movie called Batman v Superman, right?

Of course they'd team up by the end, it's not subtitled Dawn of Justice for nothing. Most people just wish we'd get 2,5 hours of Batman v Superman. But this trailer makes it seem like the Batman v Superman bit is just a small portion of the movie.
Compare it to Civil War, where there's actually a Civil War going on, which most likely won't be resolved before the third act of the movie.

So the last, maybe, 15 minutes of a 2+ hour movie will have a different villain. I don't see how that's a problem.
 
This looks fucking amazing. And I can't believe some are complaining about being too campy. Wasn't this supposed to be too serious? GTFO.

Day one.
 
Can we talk about Batman's "how not to get melted by laser-beams strategy"?

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The editing make it seems like it was done by Doomsday, but the scene looks off.

I think it's Superman that's in front of him making a point "I could kill you right now, but I won't".
 
It's almost hilarious to think Batman and Superman would square off in a movie called Batman v Superman, right?

Of course they'd team up by the end, it's not subtitled Dawn of Justice for nothing. Most people just wish we'd get 2,5 hours of Batman v Superman. But this trailer makes it seem like the Batman v Superman bit is just a small portion of the movie.
Compare it to Civil War, where there's actually a Civil War going on, which most likely won't be resolved before the third act of the movie.

Have you seen the movie?

If not, then I don't think you can say how long these guys are going to be fighting.
 
You know i get that. I dont really care if its different from multiversal balls of steel Batman. He faced down Darkseid's Omega Beams...with nary a word.

After having fought Darkseid, and Brainiac, the Anti-Monitor, and just about every other threat out there beforehand. The first of those though probably rendered him a bit speechless for a moment.
 
You know what, if the film ends up bad I won't be too fussed.

I just finished watching the Arrow/Flash crossover and the CW team has proven again why they're some of my favourite TV shows of all time.

DC TV is knocking it out of the park with Arrow, Flash, and Gotham, and I also really enjoy Supergirl even if it's not on the same level.

As far as I'm concerned, TV is where you'll find the best adapted DC experience and the films have a long way to go to convince me otherwise.
 
Holy Deus Ex Machina, Batman!
Even the Trailer can't hide the fact, that Wonder Woman has no reason to be in the movie besides Fanservice.
 
Absolutely love it, LOVE IT! Never too much given away, there's always loads more in these films and I bet the list doesn't stop at Doomsday too.

I don't think a single thing has been done wrong here. Lex is amazing and will clearly develop into something much more as these films go on too. Let him be a little erratic at first.

Movie of the decade. Day one Laser IMAX, revolving door at cineworld with unlimited card. Sounds like a plan.
 
This was pretty much my reaction. Don't give a fuck about the tone, editing, music, nit picking dialogue...its fucking Batman and Superman with WW in the same movie fighting fucking Doomsday. I've been waiting my who life for this shit.

Yet people shit their pants for 73yo Harrison Ford and Captain fighting IM and WS in slow motion.

Trailer is actually pretty bad. Didn't really feel like an ordinary trailer. But i don't give a shit because seeing everything in live action for the first time just makes my 8yo self cry like a bitch. I dig the Bat voice too.

Lol so from a trailer for a movie that doesn't feature The Joker based on a single line, Miller now concludes that Leto is Jason Todd as Joker II?

I mean Leto is literally older than Affleck. Batman and Joker are the same age basically why would there be a second one played by a guy older than Batman.
 
Hes a fucking reporter on the job in Gotham I expect basic competent. Perry needs to fire his ass.




This isn't a secret Wayne Enterprises is a massive company a reporter knowing who Bruce Wayne is isn't unreasonable.

While I thought the trailer was shit, that line was probably trailer dialogue to let the audience know that Affleck was Bruce Wayne, just like Lex Luthor took time to introduce himself.
 
Lol so from a trailer for a movie that doesn't feature The Joker based on a single line, Miller now concludes that Leto is Jason Todd as Joker II?

I mean Leto is literally older than Affleck. Batman and Joker are the same age basically why would there be a second one played by a guy older than Batman.

it's a stupid ass theory but leto can play a guy 10, maybe 20 years younger than affleck. the man looks ageless.

not to mention as that joker without eyebrows and shit it's kind of hard to gauge how old he is. that dude looks like he's in his late 20s.
 
BTW Batman totally knows Clark is Superman in that party scene. Just look at the smirk and his hot-could-have-been-said-by-LL-Cool-J-in-a rap-beef-line about men in clown costumes.

There is only one great thing about the original Doomsday storyline. It lead to this beautiful motherfucker:

OqOH5I3.jpg


Look at all that style. 3 billion box office if DC ever had the balls to make this movie. Every woman, man, and child would start dressing like him. Your wife would only think about him during sex and you will be seen as a lesser man. You're kid would eventually change his name to Konner in honor of him.

Preach, goddamn shame we never had a good superboy on screen.
 
That was pretty bad and I felt like it gave most of the plot of the film.

Have to disagree with you, villain-wise. That's exactly what's wrong with the Marvel movies. Villains are introduced the same movie they're dispatched. There's no suspense in an already pretty formulaic structure as a result.
It worked for 99% of all the movie villains.
The problem with many of the marvel villains is that they're poorly written and poorly motivated and as a result are uninteresting, but I think the idea that you can't create an interesting villain in in a 2.5 hours (at least) movie is ridiculous.
 
Lol so from a trailer for a movie that doesn't feature The Joker based on a single line, Miller now concludes that Leto is Jason Todd as Joker II?

I mean Leto is literally older than Affleck. Batman and Joker are the same age basically why would there be a second one played by a guy older than Batman.

Yeah I head to turn off the video after that. That was nonsensical.
 
it's a stupid ass theory but leto can play a guy 10, maybe 20 years younger than affleck. the man looks ageless.

not to mention as that joker without eyebrows and shit it's kind of hard to gauge how old he is. that dude looks like he's in his late 20s.

Nah he doesn't look late 20s.

Still though if they're going Jason Todd you'd get an actual young guy not an almost 45 year old.

Yeah I head to turn off the video after that. That was nonsensical.

Yep that's when I quit too. I don't have time for that crap based on a single line in a fucking trailer.

A line that literally probably just means (again based on you know the two of them being the same age) that the Joker has been around Gotham as long as Batman has.

Like I don’t even get how Miller concluded that. It makes no fucking sense.
 
Dark/edgy movies need jokes, especially when there are people in costumes. That, or you happen to make The Dark Knight where still the good thing is the Joker (and he makes jokes).
 
There was just kind of a stunned silence after my girlfriend and I watched it followed by "...that looked bad" "yeah"
 
Dark/edgy movies need jokes, especially when there are people in costumes. That, or you happen to make The Dark Knight where still the good thing is the Joker (and he makes jokes).

I'm fine with humour but Batffleck's face is hella cartoony when he delivers that line and it doesn't fit.
 
It's almost hilarious to think Batman and Superman would square off in a movie called Batman v Superman, right?

Of course they'd team up by the end, it's not subtitled Dawn of Justice for nothing. Most people just wish we'd get 2,5 hours of Batman v Superman. But this trailer makes it seem like the Batman v Superman bit is just a small portion of the movie.
Compare it to Civil War, where there's actually a Civil War going on, which most likely won't be resolved before the third act of the movie.

But how could you even know any of this without having seen either film? I know its super easy and tempting to look at this through the "Marvel knows what they're doing and DC doesn't" lens, I'm not being facetious and I totally understand. But so many people ITT are coming at this thing like they've seen the film (and no, seeing one scene with Doomsday =/= the film in its entirety). I'd wager that bats and supes still aren't 100% cool with each other by the end even if the league gets formed, but I honestly don't know because I haven't seen the thing.

Also, the Civil War trailer makes it seem like Bucky is the primary and practically only reason that Tony and Steve are feuding, but I'm willing to bet it isn't that simple because trailers only have a certain run time. Surely you could agree with that.
 
Have you seen the movie?

If not, then I don't think you can say how long these guys are going to be fighting.

So the last, maybe, 15 minutes of a 2+ hour movie will have a different villain. I don't see how that's a problem.

If Doomsday is the surprise big bad that comes in at the end of the movie, you've basically ruined the movie by putting him in the trailer. It's like saying Bruce Willis' character is dead in the trailer for Sixth Sense.
 
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