They rarely do. Hell, Fury Road has a 97% critic RT with an 87% audience score. There's a lot of negativity around professional review scores on gaf but audience scores should be substantially more suspect.
Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer
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They rarely do. Hell, Fury Road has a 97% critic RT with an 87% audience score. There's a lot of negativity around professional review scores on gaf but audience scores should be substantially more suspect.
Yeah I prefer Lex not knowing his identity.
Well given Clark Kent looks exactly like Superman minus the glasses, has an iron friggin' chest that goes 'clink' when Lex taps it, nearly crushes Lex's hand, and is talking to a billionaire playboy from Gotham named Bruce Wayne who oh so happens to approve of Batman's methods... I'd say the way that scene is shot, acted and written implies Lex - at the very least - is pitting the civilian identities against each other.
That and the whole 'he doesn't know who they are' thing kinda undermines Lex's intelligence just a little. What, he's going to reverse engineer a Kryptonian into a monster but can't work out Clark Kent minus glasses is Superman?
ETA - Also, Lex hates Superman. I always assumed if Superman fucked off and lived a quiet life as Clark Kent, Lex wouldn't give a shit about him.
What movies do you consider GREAT?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Breh what was wrong with 300.
BadAss2961
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Great home video sales too. People enjoyed the movie.
Silver Age Lex fucking knew Clark Kent was Superman. But his cakes, his fucking cakes...
Not to mention how dare anyone else know. Lex had to break down that silly woman and her 'logic.'
I honestly doubt they're going fir that I think it's just a haha they'll be enemies later scene. Just for light comedy.
Poodlestrike
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The Lex I wanted. What I got... Other than that. I dont hate it too much.
Actually, I was just thinking that in terms of personality, this Lex kinda reminds me of Morrison's. Somehow, under all the intelligence, he's just so childish (and not in a good way ).
This really just sounds to me like goal post moving. Suddenly not being great is somehow just as bad as calling Man of Steel garbage. I just don't see the point in arguing the merits of a previous movie to decide how the next will be. Cap: TFA isn't considered great but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't LOVE TWS. Or looking at how the 3 Iron Man movies were perceived. 1 is loved, 2 is not, 3 is (but this last one seems to be turning around I've noticed).
Your personal opinion of Man of Steel or even the general consensus of Man of Steel or Watchmen or Sucker Punch or Dawn of the Dead or whatever doesn't necessarily tell you how Batman v Superman will be. Spielberg went from Jurassic Park to Lost World. There are no guarantees of quality going either direction.
Released last that year after Iron Man 3 and Thor 2 and surpassed both in sales.
peanutbutterlatte
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That party better have a scene of Jesse Eisenberg taking the cake off Clark's plate when he isn't looking.
Tal Shiar Agent
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In many incarnations of Lex, he hates Superman because he feels, as a godlike alien, that his presence is holding back humanity from achieving their own potential.
As I said on Twitter, her arrival has a 'boys, I got this' vibe.
Just hope they play up Wonder Woman's enthusiasm for monster hunting. Like she should take down Doomsday and be all 'HAZAH, I HAVE SLAYED THE BEAST.'
Poodlestrike
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Or he justifies it that way, at least.\
anti-SWJ dudes are gonna protest
I eagerly anticipate their tears.
Thor 2 already came out.
Thug Waffle
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Holy shit the last fifteen seconds of this trailer are utter garbage
Still gonna see the film doe
Still gonna see the film doe
In the super hero genre? or just in general? In this particular genre I would say Winter Solider, GoTG, Dark Knight & Batman Begins, X-Men 2, and Spider-Man 2 are all considered great. I think most critics and audience review scores would be in line with that. There are other comic book movies that I personally like but I'm able to realize that they are a few faults away from greatness.
Films that have both low critic reviews and mediocre audience scores most likely have faults that prevent them from being truly great. You may personally think they are and that's fine, but most people wouldn't.. You may find one or two movies that go against the rails but in most cases this is fact. In all of Synder's cases this is fact. He has a great sense of style but that's about it.
BadAss2961
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Father_Brain
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The DCAU and DCCU have fundamentally different premises and tones. The former is a pure comic book fantasy world where costumed heroes and villains are already well established; the latter is a quasi-realistic world where the entire point seems to be that superhumans are only just publicly emerging (as is the MCU, to a slightly lesser extent).
The latter doesn't necessarily demand an entire film per character, but it generally does at least necessitate more justification for introducing a new hero/villain than "here's a dude in a costume, just roll with it."
When watching the film did you happen to notice it's tone and how Hackman's performance fit it perfectly?
The film was aiming for light and fun across the board and delivered. Personally I'd take Superman the Movies pitch effect sense of fun over Snyders uneven tone and style any day.
Would love to see solo Afleck Batman though. I can see why the studio wanted more of him and even if this stumbles I'm sure Warners will return to standalone Batman as a safe bet.
Goddamn the comic con trailer was so much better.
First teaser was better too. Lines were more memorable.
"That turns good men.. cruel"
"Tell me, do you bleed?"
First teaser was better too. Lines were more memorable.
"That turns good men.. cruel"
"Tell me, do you bleed?"
Thug Waffle
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You're a monster, Zorg.
Byakuya769
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Lex was really weird. Not sure why everyone is so negative otherwise.
looked like a campy goofy douchebag from the trailer.
It answered all the inane question that had people "concerned."
Now we know the movie isn't going to be all dour and brooding. There is an element of humour to it - which I think works perfectly in the trailer.
This is basically a Bruce Timm animated DC film brought to life. It takes itself seriously, but knows that there needs some breathing room in between for levity.
Hahahaha
"Fuck this generation. They're the most entitled and lazy of them all. Super strength, super speed, ability to breathe under water - we had none of those in my days. We had to WORK for justice. It wasn't just handed to us."
Anyone think that the Doomsday fight takes place before the armored Batman/ Superman fight? Maybe before Doomsday gets taken out, he weakens Superman. Then Lex captures Superman or Louis and mind controls or manipulates him. Batman has to armor up and distract Superman until Louis is saved (maybe by Wonder Woman) or he figures out how to disable the mind control.
BadAss2961
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Hope people are prepared for smug bitter asshole Bruce. Love the way he strolls into that party and dismisses Clark.
The trailer was pretty janky to me but if nothing else made me really interested in a solo Batfleck movie.
I still think Suicide Squad is going to be the better DC movie of 2016.
Supes wouldn't give Batman a chance to give up if that was the case.
The smirk he gives when Clark asks him what he thinks of Batman's method is perfection.
Based Batfleck is the hero we deserve and need right now.
neogaffer1
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no, but it wasn't completely hated or thought of as the worst superhero ever made. nor was skyfall a stain on the bond franchise or furious 7 a brilliant movie. yet all three of these things i've heard on gaf before.
point proven.
thecouncil
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Y'know, whatever it takes to get me to that Affleck directed Batman solo movie.
You're right. For a movie with the name recognition and marketing that this has, it's going to have higher average reviews than a movie of the same quality but minus those advantages. Just look at Jurassic World, fresh RT rating but it was by far the worst JP movie out of the four, and in general just a not very good movie (I put it just above Transformers for me personally).
I would say taking into account all those factors, I'm expecting a 5/10, so ya, probably mixed.
Trailer definitely didn't do it any favors for my hype levels.
I think the only thing I don't like about the trailer is Doomsday. He just looks funny. Hopefully he evolves during the movie.
I've been saying it for a while now; WW is going to have the biggest "wow" moments of the movie. Similar to Hulk in Avengers 1.
I believe WB is going to push the character hard after this movie.
I've been saying it for a while now; WW is going to have the biggest "wow" moments of the movie. Similar to Hulk in Avengers 1.
I believe WB is going to push the character hard after this movie.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
*endlesslyquotessupermancomics*
there are a million ways to do .. the most reliably being that "Superman - even under mind control - can't bring himself to go full bore and murder innocent people"
Not saying i think that's what is going to happen. I'm firmly in the camp that they are going to by the numbers this movie as hard as possible to have the final 15 minutes be a Trinity reveal leading into whatever beautiful disaster their JLA film is gonna be.
The 3 of them working over Doomsday for the finale sounds about right.
edit: also Batfleck is on point and Doomsday looks horrible. fingers crossed for the eventual lobotomy at least.
Poodlestrike
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That whole exchange was basically gold. Those two do passive aggressive really well.
BadAss2961
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I'm also guessing the time of events might not turn out to be what people are thinking.
Maybe Lex needs something from Bruce other than for him to die. This is just me spitballing while I am at work. I am just thinking that Lex has to manipulate Superman in some way since we see him kneeling before Lex in the previous trailer.
Furious 7 had the Rock flex out of a cast and rip a minigun off a drone he hit with a stolen ambulance of course it's a great movie.
Well we already know Wonder Woman will be in more than one scene...
yea, she'll just be in the entire movie doing her own thing.
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