Halo 5: Cartographer's Gift - FORGE, New Warzone + Arena maps, new REQs and more

343 keeps doing the same stuff over and over so what he says is valid. Those two btb maps are most likely forge, another arena remix, a warzone map already shown, and no new gametypes. I bet if there's another arena map it's gonna be a forge one based on the space theme.

Those BTB maps are for arena Big Team, not Warzone. If they meant Warzone, they'd say Warzone.
 
More forge maps for BTB?

FML.

Not even a year support? :/

I wonder where the resources went into this game for it to not only launch in such a barebones state, but to also depend on both community content and remixed content thereafter. It's especially confusing because it had a full beta a year before release. The Campaign team does one thing, the Forge team is tiny and they did another. What was the Multiplayer team doing that they were unable to at least produce those gametypes?
 
I agree with you guys and I have ever let it go for the most part. I just felt maybe after lower than.expected sales and player drops that they would have bigger changes. Maybe they do have that and it won't be here til atleast mid next year. So I really consider dropping the game. Asking for a refund and coming back if there are major changes.

I use to believe they would have actual maps but for the time being it looks unlikely based on everything they have did.
 
It would when that money could be used for OT or new hires to program and develope simple game types that have been at the launch of every Halo except this one.

How do /you/ know that REQ money isn't all going to funding?

Why are you people more interested in strangers getting your money in a halo tournament then the money you spend on req packs being placed back into the game via game modes that should have been there since day 1 instead of say.....breakout....

REQ money doesn't ALL go to the HCS stuff. We already know the added revenue goes to free maps and shit like that, what makes it so that game modes aren't included with that as well?
 
I agree with you guys and I have ever let it go for the most part. I just felt maybe after lower than.expected sales and player drops that they would have bigger changes. Maybe they do have that and it won't be here til atleast mid next year. So I really consider dropping the game. Asking for a refund and coming back if there are major changes.

I use to believe they would have actual maps but for the time being it looks unlikely based on everything they have did.
Sell it, stop thinking about it, and if in the future they fix it up to your liking and you happen to stumble across the news, then buy it again. Now that's efficient. And you're not stirring up pots while doing so, even more efficient!
 
Sell it, stop thinking about it, and if in the future they fix it up to your liking and you happen to stumble across the news, then buy it again. Now that's efficient. And you're not stirring up pots while doing so, even more efficient!
Yeah, I'll just keep a small eye on updates. No reason to expectations changes imo

I may see how forge is before I actually get rid of it. It it's as if expect no reason to talk about it anymore.
 
Why are you people more interested in strangers getting your money in a halo tournament then the money you spend on req packs being placed back into the game via game modes that should have been there since day 1 instead of say.....breakout....

Who says people are MORE interested in one or the other?

I'm glad there is an enticing prize pool. Hopefully that leads to some entertaining competitive matches between really good players. Should be fun to watch.

I also hope that the old game modes come sooner than later. They are sorely missed. And should have been in long ago. When/if they arrive, I'll certainly view it as a delayed part of my $60 purchase, and not something made possible by Reqs
 
More forge maps for BTB?

FML.

Basin looks like an upres of Halo 3's Valhalla so we can at least make some good looking maps in Forge. Hopefully if they do continue to depend on community content for BTB, they add some good maps from the community.

Emphasis on good. The community BTB maps in Reach were awful.
 
My question now is will the New Warzone Map come with a Warzon Assualt variant?

Since they seem to concider WA variant separate maps, I'm thinking no... Unless they've learned the error in labeling maps that way.
 
Did you watch the video? It's not Forge at least. It seems likely that it IS a remix though.

Calling Eden, Regret remixes are doing them a disservice. They play nothing alike.

A true remix would be changing the time of day and a few power weapon or placement of items and calling it day.
 
Basin looks like an upres of Halo 3's Valhalla so we can at least make some good looking maps in Forge. Hopefully if they do continue to depend on community content for BTB, they add some good maps from the community.

Emphasis on good. The community BTB maps in Reach were awful.

I hope you're planning on making some maps and running some customs on them with gaf


I might buy the game if they added firefight. Reach is coming to backwards compatibility so I have that I guess...

War zone firefight is needed in a big way
 
Do we have confirmations that the Burial Mounds map is also a Forge map?

I'm guessing it's a remake of The old Burial Mounds, but moved to space (as shown in the teaser trailer last month), but I'd really like to see some dev made BTB maps...

That's looking like a long shot at this point huh? Forge maps are not Req money well spent... IMO. It's like charging for something that has always been free.
 
More content is awesome and the love is getting spread around the modes too.

Now can we get the flag carrier changed back to a One Hit Kill please :) thx

Also I wonder why we don't see BTB on the actual Warzone maps, seems like it would have been easy content to repurpose.
 
When in December? Getting tired of the same small number of maps in rotation, especially when they repeat. Can we get a team objective playlist already? Tired of Slayer showing up in Team Arena when it has its own playlist.
 
I hope you're planning on making some maps and running some customs on them with gaf

Yea i'll be forging but don't know how much time i'll be investing in it just yet.

Do we have confirmations that the Burial Mounds map is also a Forge map?

I'm guessing it's a remake of The old Burial Mounds, but moved to space (as shown in the teaser trailer last month), but I'd really like to see some dev made BTB maps...

That's looking like a long shot at this point huh? Forge maps are not Req money well spent... IMO. It's like charging for something that has always been free.

The burial mounds successor was made by Ducain on the space canvas.

When in December? Getting tired of the same small number of maps in rotation, especially when they repeat. Can we get a team objective playlist already? Tired of Slayer showing up in Team Arena when it has its own playlist.

Looking like week of the 14th.
 
I agree with you guys and I have ever let it go for the most part. I just felt maybe after lower than.expected sales and player drops that they would have bigger changes. Maybe they do have that and it won't be here til atleast mid next year. So I really consider dropping the game. Asking for a refund and coming back if there are major changes.

I use to believe they would have actual maps but for the time being it looks unlikely based on everything they have did.

The games been out for a little over a month. Certainly not enough to time react to the games sales and adjust their design philosophies in time for a December content drop.

Not that they would anyway
 
Yea i'll be forging but don't know how much time i'll be investing in it just yet.



The burial mounds successor was made by Ducain on the space canvas.



Looking like week of the 14th.

Ok is Burial Mounds just a working title then. Strange that it's the only one that hasn't seen a name tweak.
 
I might buy the game if they added firefight. Reach is coming to backwards compatibility so I have that I guess...

They're not going to add something that probably requires as many resources and as much time as Firefight post-launch. Seriously, I love Firefight, but as best we could maybe expect more AI in Warzone later, but even then, it seems the way it's scripted to work, it would be tough to make a proper firefight as it would just be weird throwing in enemies at heroic level and saying just defeat them with these bases etc.

Anything big like that will only be saved for Halo 6.
 
Remixes go through just as much design iteration and environmental art as the non-remixes. I like that the remixes play with your expectations and make you adapt to your reflexes from playing the other version of the map.

"All new" maps are coming too.
 
The Warzone map was shown in a multiplayer trailer before launch. Maybe the map wasn't finished but right now it seems some content was held back to drip feed the playerbase.

This game's biggest issue is the lack of gametypes for me though. Still no Oddball or KOTH is ridiculous.
 
Remixes go through just as much design iteration and environmental art as the non-remixes. I like that the remixes play with your expectations and make you adapt to your reflexes from playing the other version of the map.

"All new" maps are coming too.

I'm not too worried about their map design, I'm sure the pro team and MP team have been designing and playing on these maps for months, but do you know if game types are on the menu? I mean beyond just Slayer, CTF, Strongholds for these maps would do wonders. KotH, Oddball, Bomb/Assault, even Ricochet or something.
 
The reason at they didn't just barf out all this content on day 1 is because the population would have split up and they couldn't count on filling and establishing Warzone as a new pillar mode to the game so they 50/50d Arena and Warzone.

Warzone effectively makes money through REQ packs. Arena doesn't. As the months go by more standards will likely be added. Be happy Warzone is there as it should help fund the extra content across the whole game as time goes by.

If all 6 Warzone maps were out right now the population of the game would have played them all and would be asking for more anyway.
 
The Warzone map was shown in a multiplayer trailer before launch. Maybe the map wasn't finished but right now it seems some content was held back to drip feed the playerbase.

This game's biggest issue is the lack of gametypes for me though. Still no Oddball or KOTH is ridiculous.
I agree and that's exactly what it feels like and I don't get it. They are going to keep trickling out content and modes that should have been in the game at launch.
 
The reason at they didn't just barf out all this content on day 1 is...

If all 6 Warzone maps were out right now the population of the game would have played them all and would be asking for more anyway.
Or because, you know, they are still building it. It's not sitting in a can somewhere - lots of work actively happening on H5.

You assume incorrectly.
 
Or because, you know, they are still building it. It's not sitting in a can somewhere - lots of work actively happening on H5.

You assume incorrectly.

This is malarkey when 5 years ago Bungie's last Halo game launched with much more content than this game. What have they been doing for 3 years, because the barebones launch doesn't instill much confidence when it seems like we are being drip fed content that should have been in the game at launch.

I'm glad we are getting this stuff for free and all that, but come on.
 
No more game types. More forge and remixes.

Fuck 343. Bring bungie back.

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This is malarkey when 5 years ago Bungie's last Halo game launched with much more content than this game. What have they been doing for 3 years, because the barebones launch doesn't instill much confidence when it seems like we are being drip fed content that should have been in the game at launch.

I'm glad we are getting this stuff for free and all that, but come on.

Wrong.

Reach had 13 maps across all modes at launch- some of which were also part of campaign levels. H5 has more - plus Warzone and the REQ content (175 armors, etc).

Not to mention there will be monthly drops of more free maps and other goodies.

Stop making up "facts" plz. K thx
 
I really need the controller settings update. I can't stand the aim acceleration the game has. Are the new settings coming with this update? I'd be thrilled if so.
 
Will this update finally fix the horrible connection issues this game has rendering it unplayable?
More forge maps for BTB?

FML.
Got to use money on more important things like: Giving it away to one person while fucking 99.9999% of the community.

At least now we know how they promised us those "free maps" after launch. Just make more Forge maps. For fucks sake 343i.
 
Will this update finally fix the horrible connection issues this game has rendering it unplayable?
Got to use money on more important things like: Giving it away to one person while fucking 99.9999% of the community.

At least now we know how they promised us those "free maps" after launch. Just make more Forge maps. For fucks sake 343i.
Yeah I knew it was too good to be true.
 
This is awesome. More hyped for this than any announcement last night. Halo 5 has been my go-to shooter for when I just fancy a few rounds of multiplayer on a night. Even playing on my own, I've been having great fun.

343 have been doing an awesome job with support so far. They deserve alot of credit for the level free support in a shooter world dominated by £40 season passes.

I would like to see a few more breakout maps though...
 
Wrong.

Reach had 13 maps across all modes at launch- some of which were also part of campaign levels. H5 has more - plus Warzone and the REQ content (175 armors, etc).

Not to mention there will be monthly drops of more free maps and other goodies.

Stop making up "facts" plz. K thx

It also takes them way more man power to build these levels. Plaza as an example is insanely detailed. Warzone maps are pretty massive, likely eclipsing a Reach Firefight location.
 
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