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[TeddyShardik]

I'm much more concerned with the release of ps2 games than the price to be honest.
If they really put some effort into these things(and so far they basically seem like small scale hd remasters, which is fine.) they will probably drip feed these à la Nintendo VC.
Looking at the handful of games they launch this with doesn't fill me with confidence that I'll get the games I want in a timely manner.

 

[KZXcellent]

I'm clearly in that minority that's actually excited for this. ._.

 

[LewieP]

I wonder whether Sony or MS are going to be first to get Rez available on their current console.

The disappointment of no disc support, and Sony's awful decision to abandon their precedent for digital purchases being hardware agnostic where feasible, would be a little easier to swallow if games were a little cheaper, or even had something like a blanket 25% off for PS+ subscribers, or a launch discount.

The entire announcement has been kind of mismanaged, too. The Star Wars games muddied the water, and Sony left people loads of time to speculate over the possibilities, getting their hopes up.

 

[BobTheFork]

I'm clearly in that minority that's actually excited for this. ._.

Me Too I guess. I think that price is totally fine.

Since Tomorrow isn't a normal store update day, any idea on when these will go up?

 

[~Kinggi~]

I think ill stick to running my ps2 games on a ps2 emulator for free on PC, thanks.

 

[thelastword]

Prices are too high and no upgrade path for people who've bought the Classics versions on the PS3. Trophies and 1080p are nice, but these are bad, bad decisions.

I don't think it is, People are going to pay for 1080p and trophies. I think the games they have so far are pretty good too. The mark of Kri is mine,

I think the GTA's and the Jrpg's will sell quite well for those guys who want to 100 percent those. Come on Sony, Give me....


Rygar
Lament of Innocence
Valkyrie Profile 2
Onimusha's 1-4
Blood Will Tell
Shadow of Rome


If they do the Silent Hill's, it's over...

 

[bobawesome]

I'm clearly in that minority that's actually excited for this. ._.

While I'm not excited for any of the current games on offer, I'm excited for its potential. Trophies and remote play for PS2 games sounds pretty cool. I'd love for Persona 3 and the Gungrave games to eventually be added.

 

[Macrotus]

So technically, are these games not running via emulation?

To me, from the price and the fact that PS2 classics and discs don't run,
it seems like a PS2 remaster collection rather than "emulation".

I'm also wondering if PS1 emulation is coming.
And if all those PS1 classics I bought would run on PS4 if it is coming.
But looking at the current situation of PS2 games on PS4, I guess I'll have to repurchase all of them too.

Honestly, PSP ran PS1 classics, thus theres no reason PS4 can't do it. Unless Sony "won't" do it.

 

[Heartfyre]

Me Too I guess. I think that price is totally fine.

Since Tomorrow isn't a normal store update day, any idea on when these will go up?

In the EU, they're timed to go up at 20:00GMT, which we can conclude is the time the conference ends. United States is probably the same.

 

[JTripper]

Trophies?

Literally the only reason I'd go back to playing these games, especially Vice City.

 

[iosefe]

Trophies?

Literally the only reason I'd go back to playing these games, especially Vice City.

yes.

some will have platinums, we don't know which though

 

[TeddyShardik]

I forgot to mention: Not gonna spend one cent on censored(Living in Germany sucked so much in this regard!) 50 Hz shit, Sony!

 

[PensivePen]

I'm much more concerned with the release of ps2 games than the price to be honest.
If they really put some effort into these things(and so far they basically seem like small scale hd remasters, which is fine.) they will probably drip feed these à la Nintendo VC.
Looking at the handful of games they launch this with doesn't fill me with confidence that I'll get the games I want in a timely manner.

Pretty much my fear as well. Their launching with such a small number of games doesn't really do much to assuage it either.

 

[Boke1879]

I'm clearly in that minority that's actually excited for this. ._.

I am as well. Some people are upset and they have every right to be. But I'm buying the hell out of some of these games AND FFV port tomorrow.

 

[GuitarAtomik]

Kind of want War of the Monsters.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

While I'm not excited for any of the current games on offer, I'm excited for its potential. Trophies and remote play for PS2 games sounds pretty cool. I'd love for Persona 3 and the Gungrave games to eventually be added.

If they put up Persona 3 (and some ps1 classics) I'll be more than content.

 

[OSHAN]

I'm clearly in that minority that's actually excited for this. ._.

Well I'm excited. I had a PS2. I had over 100 games for it. I sold all that shit. When a game comes around for 10-15 bucks that was one of my favorites, like Ridge Racer V or Gradius V or Gitraoo Man or any SNK game or whatever, I'll buy it. I'll unlock some fucking trophies and have a good time.

 

[Mr. Nice_Guy]

yes.

some will have platinums, we don't know which though

Source? I missed this.

Also I'm surprised at anyone defending Sony seemingly abandoning the PSN Classics model they been using for so many years.

 

[Fox Mulder]

I'd love to get gta again, but these are all presumably the altered versions.

 

[iosefe]

Source? I missed this.

Also I'm surprised at anyone defending Sony seemingly abandoning the PSN Classics model they been using for so many years.

Trophies are a selling point of these, and on twitter, yosp said some will have platninums

 

[NickatNite]

$15 is too much.

Thanks, but no thanks.

 

[BobTheFork]

In the EU, they're timed to go up at 20:00GMT, which we can conclude is the time the conference ends. United States is probably the same.

That's 1pm here. Good I should just be getting out of bed.

 

[InsaneTiger]

If you are willing to buy lightly used, they are absolutely everywhere and for insanely cheap prices with the exception of limited run prints and ATLUS games.

Not good enough. I want brand spanking new. Besides I have every PS2 game I want.

 

[Saphirax]

yes.

some will have platinums, we don't know which though

I think there's a high chance that those that cost $15 will have platinums, while those that are $10 may nott. There's a mobile port of San Andreas for ps3 that has the platinum and it'd be weird to have 2 SA versions - one with a plat and one without. And all RPGS should have a platinum trophy .

 

[Elios83]

Launch selection is pretty good.
Waiting for hands on on Rogue Galaxy and Mark of Cri.
But I'm waiting for some japanese third party love, japanese developers were the soul of the PS2.
We need games from Capcom, Konami and other publishers that truly shined back then.

It would be hironic if Silent Hill 2 as a classic was the definitive version of the game instead of the HD Collection for PS3
Price is what I feared/expected ranging from 10$ to 15$ for top titles.

 

[Mr. Nice_Guy]

Trophies are a selling point of these, and on twitter, yosp said some will have platninums

I hate making blanket statements, but trophies are in no way shape or form worth abandong a library of digital games built over the last decade. (If this truly ends up being the case)

Also, cool thanks. Not having any platinums seemed like a waste.

 

[Akara]

I don't care about trophies, I just want these games !

 

[JTripper]

yes.

some will have platinums, we don't know which though

Sweet. Gimme some trophies for Batman: Vengeance and Psychonauts and I'm good to go.

 

[StereoVsn]

So technically, are these games not running via emulation?

To me, from the price and the fact that PS2 classics and discs don't run,
it seems like a PS2 remaster collection rather than "emulation".

I'm also wondering if PS1 emulation is coming.
And if all those PS1 classics I bought would run on PS4 if it is coming.
But looking at the current situation of PS2 games on PS4, I guess I'll have to repurchase all of them too.

Honestly, PSP ran PS1 classics, thus theres no reason PS4 can't do it. Unless Sony "won't" do it.

Technically these games are absolutely being emulated with emulator container for each game ala PS2 classics on PS3. This is where the upres is coming from, they haven't done jack shit with textures or anything else in game. Trophies are coming from their tech to detect memory state changes in the emulator based on their rule set which yes, they do have to customize for each game.

If you are repurchasing PS2 classics AGAIN on PS4 after purchasing them on PS3, I am sorry, but you are a fool.

 

[Kaizer]

Down for buying Rogue Galaxy, I never finished it on PS2 and it was one of my favorites. Not sure if I'd still like it as much today. Never played Dark Cloud, is it any good?

 

[OSHAN]

If you are repurchasing PS2 classics AGAIN on PS4 after purchasing them on PS3, I am sorry, but you are a fool.

Unless you're interested in the trophies, then you're paying for trophies.

 

[ChronotriggerJM]

Technically these games are absolutely being emulated with emulator container for each game ala PS2 classics on PS3. This is where the upres is coming from, they haven't done jack shit with textures or anything else in game. Trophies are coming from their tech to detect memory state changes in the emulator based on their rule set which yes, they do have to customize for each game.

If you are repurchasing PS2 classics AGAIN on PS4 after purchasing them on PS3, I am sorry, but you are a fool.

Considering the implementation, what are the chances of a fixed 60 fps?

 

[StereoVsn]

Unless you're interested in the trophies, then you're paying for trophies.

You are paying $15 for detection of memory state in the emulator... That's just instane. Of course if this is what people are thinking it's clear why Sony would do that, but man, that's just....

 

[Bishop89]

Technically these games are absolutely being emulated with emulator container for each game ala PS2 classics on PS3. This is where the upres is coming from, they haven't done jack shit with textures or anything else in game. Trophies are coming from their tech to detect memory state changes in the emulator based on their rule set which yes, they do have to customize for each game.

If you are repurchasing PS2 classics AGAIN on PS4 after purchasing them on PS3, I am sorry, but you are a fool.

If you bought any hd collection if you already owned them on the PS2 you are a full /s


The amount of times I've seen ppl post they would double, even triple dip........

 

[StereoVsn]

Considering the implementation, what are the chances of a fixed 60 fps?

Ehh, no idea, depends on the game since if FPS is tied to game logic/animation, it would screw stuff up. See PCSX2 essentially for whatever game you are thinking and the state of emulation there, should at least give you a general idea of things.

 

[hank_tree]

Down for buying Rogue Galaxy, I never finished it on PS2 and it was one of my favorites. Not sure if I'd still like it as much today. Never played Dark Cloud, is it any good?

If you don't have nostalgia for it, it doesn't hold up.

 

[StereoVsn]

If you bought any hd collection if you already owned them on the PS2 you are a full /s


The amount of times I've seen ppl post they would double, even triple dip........

There is a difference. Quite a few HD collections (say Uncharted Collection or Last of Us) had a lot of work done on them. I can see paying money for that. This is literally same shit running on a newer emulator with more powerful hardware.

 

[jonboi24]

15 bucks for PS2 games is fucking nuts.

I mean, I knew they weren't going to let you play what you already owned, but the price point should be 9.99 or lower.

Wait aren't some of them 9.99? I'm pretty sure they won't all be 14.99 still would like to know why the difference in the price points. What are the requirements for a game to have the full 14.99 price.

 

[JackEtc]

I would pay $60 for NFL Street 2.

It's upsetting that'll it'll probably never happen since it seems like such a selective process, though, correct?

 

[Neuromancer]

I would pay $15 for Timesplitters 2. Sadly that will never happen.

 

[PensivePen]

This feature will be worth it though if Kuon, Haunting Ground and Rule of Rose ever go up for purchase.

 

[MODEYV3]

There should be some system that lowers the price or something if you already own the game. I guess nostalgia pays.

 

[jonboi24]

Interesting. So it does seem to be just Sony IPs...just as I thought.

Wait what? Does Sony own GTA, Star Wars and Rogue Galaxy?

 

[OSHAN]

You are paying $15 for detection of memory state in the emulator... That's just instane. Of course if this is what people are thinking it's clear why Sony would do that, but man, that's just....

I do feel like 10 years ago I'd care more, but now I really don't. I've played through these games already. The only new thing here for me would be trophies. Is that worth the money? Eh, not really. Not for me anyway. But for a handful of titles, sure.

 

[StereoVsn]

I do feel like 10 years ago I'd care more, but now I really don't. I've played through these games already. The only new thing here for me would be trophies. Is that worth the money? Eh, not really. Not for me anyway. But for a handful of titles, sure.

There are quite a few people who actually like replaying older games. This is not a correct argument. I can even see Sony charging an upgrade price, but just outright to say f-you, but same exact game again (all changes are emulator side) is BS.

 

[Rezae]

$15? Eh.. no.

 

[~Kinggi~]

This feature will be worth it though if Kuon, Haunting Ground and Rule of Rose ever go up for purchase.

Yeah actual desired rare shit is the stuff that can get 15$. This other shit is ridiculously priced, especially if you already own the games.

 

[OSHAN]

There are quite a few people who actually like replaying older games. This is not a correct argument. I can even see Sony charging an upgrade price, but just outright to say f-you, but same exact game again (all changes are emulator side) is BS.

I was one of the people. I kept all my original consoles though. I still have my DC and around 70 games. I honestly don't remember the last time I hooked it up. Probably five years ago.

I guess, for me, if you're big into classics, then BC is really about the convenience of not hooking up your PS2, because you already have the game, but if you already have the game, and you're really into the games, you more than likely have your PS2 hooked up.

Don't get me wrong, I would like the option, who wouldn't? But, if I had to choose between playing the same game but on PS4, or a prettier version of the game with trophies--with a premium fee attached to it, I would pay the fee.

 

[Karspankey]

All I need Sony (oh god why did I make this)

 

[Owningrampage]

are these the only games we are getting? or are they gonna add more