Final Fantasy 7 Remake: all parts will have the size of a full game
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I assume that when they say full sized game, and they're talking about an RPG, that they're talking about a full sized RPG.
Maintenance
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Damn, 180 for the whole game.
Plus this is SE, they will PR the shit out of this with smoke and mirrors.
Plus this is SE, they will PR the shit out of this with smoke and mirrors.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Post the link saying this will be a sub 10 hour game. I'll wait.
It's modern day Square we're talking about, a company who hasn't released anything good rpg wise in 10 plus years.
Anyway, sounds like $60*3 to me. Lol at those who bite.
Dead End Irony
Member
I just hope that in the end, we'll be able to play one giant game without having to switch episodes.
I just don't want it to be like, 'Hmmm I feel like visiting Cosmo Canyon, which episode/disc was on that on again?'
I just don't want it to be like, 'Hmmm I feel like visiting Cosmo Canyon, which episode/disc was on that on again?'
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Some of you guys are really exaggerating with how big the game is. Midgar is 5-8 hours long, and Disc 1 is definitely not the size of "3-4 games."
However, from my experience replaying FFVII last year, the game definitely seemed like it had a ton of untapped potential and every area, and every aspect of the plot, could've used more fleshing-out. So I feel like that's what they'll do here. Plus, with the game removing pre-rendered backgrounds and using voice acting, the experience is more drawn-out.
In terms of Midgar, I'm not sure with the Midgar section being the entire first release unless they add a ton of new content. Perhaps exploration with every sector, adding new story bits, ties into Crisis Core, etc.
However, from my experience replaying FFVII last year, the game definitely seemed like it had a ton of untapped potential and every area, and every aspect of the plot, could've used more fleshing-out. So I feel like that's what they'll do here. Plus, with the game removing pre-rendered backgrounds and using voice acting, the experience is more drawn-out.
In terms of Midgar, I'm not sure with the Midgar section being the entire first release unless they add a ton of new content. Perhaps exploration with every sector, adding new story bits, ties into Crisis Core, etc.
They announce a remake - yay (if for nothing than to make people shut up).
Then they talk about splitting it up - okay, this could go either way for. I'd had to experience this game for the first time this way but that's subjective.
Then they start talking about each part having it's own story and calling the length a completely arbitrary thing that means nothing. We know what's in there, making it weird to use vague terms unless they don't actually have a proper plan or have started work and realised that game is a lot bigger than they remember.
There's no story here, just words to try and tide over a backlash, which is really disconcerting. I don't think they're just mashing their heads against the keyboard but when releasing info and then not having anything tangible to back it up with, it feels like a mess just waiting to happen, especially as their most recent efforts with single-player Final Fantasys have teetered in rather scummy practices with how story is released. There was DLC to complete a story I believe in one of the XIIIs? (correct me if I'm wrong).
I hope I'm being overly pessimistic from falling off Final Fantasy during XIII but just give me one piece of news that isn't a combination of random words with no substance, Square.
I don't understand that thinking. What you are finding "okay" now is essential this:
Imagine a 60$ price tag next to each year.
To be expected. FFVII and many other games from that era are just to massive for the dumbed down streamlined stuff we get these days. And yes even Witcher 3 scale is small compared to FFVII.
What you are listing here means basically that FFVII disc 1 would be a game of Witcher 3 scale IMO. And I say scale, not content of course because Witcher 3 had a lot more of smaller trivial quest, but I am just basing this on the open world you explore. FFVII had a whole world, 5 continents and they seem to want to remake it all.
What you are listing here means basically that FFVII disc 1 would be a game of Witcher 3 scale IMO. And I say scale, not content of course because Witcher 3 had a lot more of smaller trivial quest, but I am just basing this on the open world you explore. FFVII had a whole world, 5 continents and they seem to want to remake it all.
Did you complain about Mass Effect being $180?
Assuming what they're saying is true, I don't get why people are upset. More FFVII everyone. More of that world. More content, more more more.
If you're just looking for the same game, you have two very viable options at this moment.
A gussied up FFVII with minor changes is boring.
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
This remake is shaping up to be the biggest cash grab of all time.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
This sounds good...but I'm still weary. What is a full sized game? Like a full sized, typical JRPG or a "full sized" 15 hour modern game?
I'm also a little nervous about them expanding the story. AC compilation wasn't exactly great plot wise.
I'm also a little nervous about them expanding the story. AC compilation wasn't exactly great plot wise.
entremet
Member
Will it even have a Gold Chocobo? Could you imagine that realistic looking Cloud and Barret getting on a huge golden chicken and traversing the World Map?
Permanently A
Junior Member
Now the question is, how on earth are you splitting a 40 hour story across 2 or more full sized games?
KyanMehwulfe
Member
a lot of semantics...
episode, chapter
unique experience
full-game, each entry, etc
all of which could mean the same thing but some more sensitive or scary in their connotations than others haha
hopefully the games are still designed as a single game story and progression or continuity, and otherwise are just split into chapters or 'discs' but don't think we'll know one way or another for a while and square enix probably isn't even certain yet other than the fact they wanna get paid every year or two haha
episode, chapter
unique experience
full-game, each entry, etc
all of which could mean the same thing but some more sensitive or scary in their connotations than others haha
hopefully the games are still designed as a single game story and progression or continuity, and otherwise are just split into chapters or 'discs' but don't think we'll know one way or another for a while and square enix probably isn't even certain yet other than the fact they wanna get paid every year or two haha
Seems like this will be their ''trilogy'' of the current generation.
I guess each game will be open world with its own map focused on a particular continent of the original FFVII map. They'll use some tricks just like in the original (with certain vehicles you can only reach certain locations) to justify why everything is not accessible immediatly.
New episodes might allow for exploration of locations available in the previous episodes and all the map/world might be unlocked in the final game.
And considering the full game sized episodes...yeah it's gonna cost at least 40$ per game.
I guess each game will be open world with its own map focused on a particular continent of the original FFVII map. They'll use some tricks just like in the original (with certain vehicles you can only reach certain locations) to justify why everything is not accessible immediatly.
New episodes might allow for exploration of locations available in the previous episodes and all the map/world might be unlocked in the final game.
And considering the full game sized episodes...yeah it's gonna cost at least 40$ per game.
By adding content, which they've said they're going to do. There are so many locales, people, and storylines to explore in the universe of FFVII.
Of course, if it's padding and boring, who cares. That sucks. But there is potential.
Catchpenny
Member
I wonder what this will mean for stat progression. Will you be able to grind to the endgame level cap in part one, or will each part have its own cap?
I really hope that they design this so that the game plays cohesively from start to finish once every part is released, or at least patch it/release a complete edition that accomplishes this. One of the highlights of FFVII was getting out of Midgar and realizing there was a whole world to explore beyond what you just spent hours in. It seems like that may be lost here with artificial barriers between sections of the game.
I really hope that they design this so that the game plays cohesively from start to finish once every part is released, or at least patch it/release a complete edition that accomplishes this. One of the highlights of FFVII was getting out of Midgar and realizing there was a whole world to explore beyond what you just spent hours in. It seems like that may be lost here with artificial barriers between sections of the game.
I'd take about 30 to 40 hours each.
Although people don't like hearing it...games DO take far more effort, time and asset creation to make these days.
Back then, FF7 was super AAA material. And now they want to do the same thing.
I personally don't mind as long as progression goes from one game to the other, which is obviously possible.
Although people don't like hearing it...games DO take far more effort, time and asset creation to make these days.
Back then, FF7 was super AAA material. And now they want to do the same thing.
I personally don't mind as long as progression goes from one game to the other, which is obviously possible.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Would you prefer if the game came out as one part but with less than half the content as the original?
This is the only way they can make the remake happen while preserving as much content as possible. A project of this size is an unbelievable undertaking.
It's blowing my mind just how many people don't seem to understand what the hell is going on, as if it's that hard to grasp. This thread is a damn gold mine.
Except this is not what they're doing.
Except this is not what they're doing.
I am not a cow, sir.
I am a scholar of the fine arts that are Final Fantasy VII and a steadfast believer that had this game been released in one cohesive whole entirely too many good things would be gone as a compromise.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
So squeeze $180 out of them for the individual release and then put out the 3 disc collector's edition a year later for maxing tit drainage?
Aceshighhhh
Member
But will each game be independent from one another or will each successive title add to a whole? It'd be nice not to be blocked out of content that was on a previous disc
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
The more they talk about this the less I care about it.
mullet2000
Member
You don't understand what's going on any better than anyone else, outside of the development team themselves.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Sooooo when and how will it be released Complete
I think they hurting it's sales doing it this way, A lot of people will want a full version and on disc
I know digital is big now but I see people still waiting for the full version regardless if it's digital or physical.
Waiting long periods of time to play parts of 1 game people know isn't really a bright idea.
Especially when they are gonna be spread out like it looks like it's gonna be.
I think they hurting it's sales doing it this way, A lot of people will want a full version and on disc
I know digital is big now but I see people still waiting for the full version regardless if it's digital or physical.
Waiting long periods of time to play parts of 1 game people know isn't really a bright idea.
Especially when they are gonna be spread out like it looks like it's gonna be.
Skellig Gra
Member
$180 for a story we already know. Mass Effect was brand new content. That's not a fair comparison.
Dead End Irony
Member
See that's the most important part to me.
Are there really people out there that would defend being blocked out of areas that were on a previous disc/episode?
Next to what seems to happen this past decade when Square springs for stories I don't already know, I'm pretty thrilled to be revisiting something I do know for a change.
GenericUser
Member
This is all I needed in life to be game over. This sucks so hard 
Maybe, but at least I'm not expecting FF7 to bet cut into 10 hour episodes - even though no one has a reason to believe that.
You realize that there's gonna be alot of new stuff if they flesh out the story and add new content - right?
ArkhamFantasy
Member
This game isnt a collection of pre-rendered backgrounds and an avatar walking around an overworld.
brandonh83
Banned
I don't think that's how it's going to be at all.
Mentosrock
Member
AKA: All parts will have the price of a full game.
This is going to be a disjointed mess. How are they going to work in a world map? If all this is, is just walking through HD corridors of locations we recognize from the old games, I'm going to be unhappy. I thought this was a remake? If the world isn't as open as the one we had in at least the PS1 version, I'm going to be very disappointed, but I don't see how this format will allow that.
Could you imagine playing the game up until you break out of midgar, and then needing to take a 2 year break just to get the next part? No thanks.
This is going to be a disjointed mess. How are they going to work in a world map? If all this is, is just walking through HD corridors of locations we recognize from the old games, I'm going to be unhappy. I thought this was a remake? If the world isn't as open as the one we had in at least the PS1 version, I'm going to be very disappointed, but I don't see how this format will allow that.
Could you imagine playing the game up until you break out of midgar, and then needing to take a 2 year break just to get the next part? No thanks.
Ploid 3.0
Member
SE's doing.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
So, I'll toss this one out there for people to chew on:
If Square were doing the entire remake project on one disc, what makes you think it would suddenly have more content at X dollars than one title in the "Saga" at X dollars?
If Square were doing the entire remake project on one disc, what makes you think it would suddenly have more content at X dollars than one title in the "Saga" at X dollars?
They can do it. This is FFXVs map. Midgar alone should be slightly bigger than Fallout 4.
I really, REALLY don't think that comparison is accurate. FFXV's world can't be that big. Hell, I HOPE it's not that big.