DarkLordMalik
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Indeed.
People forget this is the same Square Enix that sold Type-0 HD with Episode Duscae for $59.99, and will sell Kingdom Heats II.8 HD for $59.99.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake: all parts will have the size of a full game
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People forget this is the same Square Enix that sold Type-0 HD with Episode Duscae for $59.99, and will sell Kingdom Heats II.8 HD for $59.99.
ArkhamFantasy
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Im really hoping this is all 1 game. the extra parts are like DLC/Expansions for the original game.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The company that takes 10 years to release a game knows what?
I've been through enough FF hype cycles to know better. These things can and will take years at a time.
FFVIIR is less of a game than it is a series.
And like most series that aren't CoD or AssCreed (made by multiple worldwide teams at a time), there will be years to wait in between titles.
Silver-tongued
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It will be released in three parts, and the concluding part of the trilogy will be Final Fantasy VII-3: Aerith Returns.
Probably that there will be the big overarching FF7 plot but each entry will be more condensed so you have distinctive "arcs" or "chapters" which kinda stand on their own (with the later on having a bit of exposition at the beginning just to give context)
ArkhamFantasy
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And will sell FFXV for 60 dollars with no paid DLC and no microtransactions.
FF7R stands to be multiple times bigger than XV.
I could have sworn they said there might be some paid DLC costumes like what they do with SF.
Lord of Castamere
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You think they'll be able to develop and polish two full sized rpgs a year apart, even though it's going to take 3 years for the first?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
With this information, I'm expecting the following.
Part 1 - Expanded Midgar segment, expanded flashback (including some Crisis Core stuff)
Part 2 - Up to the big Sephiroth/Aeris climactic moment
Part 3 - Rest of the game
And if the series is successful enough, they'll go on and do a part 4 which will be new post-game content.
$40-$60/each, around 15-25 hours long per part. First part to come out January 31, 2017 (20th anniversary of the game's release in Japan).
Part 1 - Expanded Midgar segment, expanded flashback (including some Crisis Core stuff)
Part 2 - Up to the big Sephiroth/Aeris climactic moment
Part 3 - Rest of the game
And if the series is successful enough, they'll go on and do a part 4 which will be new post-game content.
$40-$60/each, around 15-25 hours long per part. First part to come out January 31, 2017 (20th anniversary of the game's release in Japan).
Ghost_Protocol
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No "HD Towns are still hard" thread title update yet? C'mon Gaf
Napalm_Frank
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Not only am I fine with Genesis possibly appearing -- I hope he does. And I hope he has a new extended reading of Loveless to irritate all of you
I like Genesis.
I don't see any problem with either of those decisions, but yeah you're right.
Tbh Nomura's XV would've been more interesting.New characters,new world,new everything.
With FF7,there's still the original which is an established great game.As nice as the remake is,its sort of reusing old material ?(depending on how many new stuff they add)
Perfect Cha0s
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TBH, I'm almost glad he got this game so I didn't have to watch his version of XV get all its hype sucked away when VIIR was announced with a different director.
GreenMakoEyes
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so no backtracking then? Or visit anything via airship?
neoism
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wow pretty dissapointing.. just means its gonna be longer for me to play... not paying 60$ for 1/3 of a game ive bought 4 times...
smfh square .....😐
Not really.
Duscae suggests FFXV will have a massive world.We know so little about the actual scope of the remake.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
But you see how a company that sells a mere HD port as a full priced game would never in a million years charge anything less than $60 for a single part of FFVIIR?
And it's a single part of FFVII in name only. As per this thread, each part will be a full game unto itself.
$60 per 40-50+ hour game. None of this $30, smaller game, released every year nonsense. This is a new Lightning Trilogy themed around what was once a single game.
DXLelouch153
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Shadax the wizard
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Final Fantasy VII-1 - Midgar
Prequel stuff (alot of new content not in the original) and the famous Midgar intro where you are with Barratt. All the Midgar stuff including meeting Airith and Tifa. Ending is leaving Midgar with a final Boss.
Final Fantasy VII-2 - SOLDIER
You meet Sephiroth. Includes Zack flashback sequences with Sephiroth and all the SOLDIER storyline. Includes new content with flashback where somethings taken from Crisis Core. You meet Vincent etc. Information and introduction of Jenovah. Game ends with Aeris death sequence with a boss fight with Jenovah. Also features Gold Saucer.
We will probably get 2 or 1 more part. I forgot how long the rest of the game is.
Prequel stuff (alot of new content not in the original) and the famous Midgar intro where you are with Barratt. All the Midgar stuff including meeting Airith and Tifa. Ending is leaving Midgar with a final Boss.
Final Fantasy VII-2 - SOLDIER
You meet Sephiroth. Includes Zack flashback sequences with Sephiroth and all the SOLDIER storyline. Includes new content with flashback where somethings taken from Crisis Core. You meet Vincent etc. Information and introduction of Jenovah. Game ends with Aeris death sequence with a boss fight with Jenovah. Also features Gold Saucer.
We will probably get 2 or 1 more part. I forgot how long the rest of the game is.
GreenMakoEyes
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guys, how does backtracking work with a system like that?
Perfect Cha0s
Member
it's going to be so different you're really getting 0/3 of a game youve bought 4 times
talk about bad value
This would make sense if it wasn't UE4. Dev time is drastically reduced when they don't have to make their own engine. They're also getting paid by Sony for timed exclusivity and are being helped along by an entire other studio with tons of experience.
Art assets are honestly the biggest hurdle here.
neoism
Member
yeah also this if their isnt an over world withan airship no buy....already a little peed its got and action battle system...its seems to close to FF 15 i havent played the demo but it looks boring for a battle system...
at this rate all i want from square is ff12 remaster...:/
7 is a long game. If they're expanding each section like making Midgar a mini-city (I have no fucking clue why) then yea it's going almost certainly going to be bigger than FFXV.
meanspartan
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Yeah, I am.
Maybe this ends up being a good thing. But people in here pretending like this is totally what they wanted is so phony.
And then, this is modern Square. Why give them the benefit of the doubt?
Go_Ly_Dow
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I wouldn't be so sure on that yet.
brandonh83
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I'm on board with multiple parts but yeah it'll be more than that.
???
SenorPopOff
Banned
And here i was thinking FF7 was a full sized game. Little did I know that Square was being generous and sold me multiple games worth of content for 50 bucks.
Well early on the geography inhibited that, and when it didn't and you went back to an area, it was mostly filled with NPCs with little no story sequences. Sidequest discussions at most. Some portions simply aren't back-trackable, like sectors in Midgar, the Junon-Costa Del Sol ship, Rocket Town stuff in disc 2, Temple of Ancients, etc.
I don't see why we can't have all the scenario data on the disc, but extraneous towns be downloadable data. By that point all those assets would be made, they would just have to be repackaged. Or, if you have disc 1 it installs all that content to the drive which gets pulled when you play disc 2, and if you only buy disc 2 it downloads the necessary disc 1 content on install.
DarkLordMalik
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Not sure about the paid DLC but I do expect cosmetic DLCs, which is the norm for the series now.
FFVII: Remake will also likely have a budget that will dwarf FFXV
I don't have any problem either. I bought Type-0 HD at launch and will get KH II.8 HD on launch as well.
I am simply saying that there is evidence to determine that these multi-parts won't have a price less than $59.99.
Mentosrock
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I think this is the most likely outcome. 60$ with 15 to (at most) 25 hours. People who think they're going to get a 40+ hour game from square with just a few years of development, set in a single city, are nuts.
Good luck waiting until 2020.
Why not? Square has been turning everything around lately, from completely relaunching XIV based on player feedback and making it an amazing game, to completely overhauling the mess that was Versus and gathering players opinions to help make a better game, to moving away from their inefficient in-house engine (Crystal, Luminous) to make their games release earlier, and much more. Modern Square Enix is just fine.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Disc size really isn't the issue. More like asset and content creation.
Part 2 can just include whatever they want to allow you to backtrack to from part 1, etc.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
I hope that they prove me wrong but when you got games that last you 4 hours or less that are considered a "complete experience" and charge over $40+ on release day such as The Order 1886 (good game but it wasn't worth the price) than you have to wander what the definition of a full game even means to Square-Enix.
meanspartan
Member
Why is it fantasy land for a game to just be remade as one whole?
You guys are buying into a flawed premise. If we had years and years of broken up RPGs because whole ambitious games arent possible financially any more, fine. But we've had plenty of ambitious games in the last 20 years, hell look at Witcher 3 this year.
Trickster
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Kinda the release date I expected anyways, give or take a year. This is SE we're talking about afterall.
I suppose. I found myself more hyped than I thought I would be when the trailer came out and now that I'm seeing this look to be going in other direction it's just ugh. I'd just hate to see this come out and be one of those remakes where everyone says "play the original for the true experience". I get that ambition is probably well beyond a 60 dollar price point but I cannot disconnect FFVII into a two or three part games when I've played it thrice as one full game. Doesn't help that "modern gameplay" to me means "sit back and mash X without thinking about what you're doing".
I really need to start reading every comment more carefully to try and gauge context better. These threads are moving so damn fast and there's like 4 of them.
Go_Ly_Dow
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At the SE executive board meeting room: "Lets make this into a trilogy.....lets split part 3 into 2 parts..... It works for Harry Potter and Hunger Games."
No, probably something like this.
"How long will it take to recreate FF7 with real-time CG like visuals on PS4 after looking over the project"?
"around 5-6 years...."
"OK then, let's split the release to stop another FFXV situation from happening".