[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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Are people somewhat open to the idea this could be in the realm of Star Wars and Empire, or are people kinda building a fence around those two still?

Believe me, I'm hoping it's the best Star Wars film ever. My lowered expectations are that it will still be better than the prequels and ROTJ, even if it isn't in the league of Star Wars and Empire. I'm trying not to stay too hyped so that I don't get disappointed, but that's difficult to do.
 
I imagine his role to be similar to Wedge's in the original Expanded Universe, which was some of the best stuff.

Yup. I think the main 3 heroes will get a good amount of screen time and their characters will be a joy to witness.

Like someone said Phasma seems more akin to Fett but I still think she'll have her fair shake.
 
I am mean more in terms of the pure original tracks of the score, Rey's theme and so on. Many of the tv spots and trailers aren't using original Williams work as of late either.

That's fair. I'm probably being a bit naive about it because of how awesome the themes have been in the trailers.
 
Someone implied that it was a fact that she is Luke's niece. I pointed out that she is not Luke's niece and that if she is related to an OT character it has to be Luke.

And then you crashed into a Morton's truck.
Go back to the post. Read it this time. The guy you originally replied to said HAN's niece. Not Luke's.

That's what caught my attention. I even reiterated that previously and you still missed it.

Regardless, it's cool. I'm over it. Back to getting hype.
 
I'm expecting it to review well and to hold up.

I am a little concerned about the second act though. Seems like that's the shakiest part of the plot. The kids steal the ship then next thing you know they are with Han. Then they're at a bar. Then a force vision/flashback/whatever. Hopefully they pull that Stormtrooper fight off.

We don't seem to know how Poe escapes, right? That's not even in the shot-list from what I remember. If that's in the second act, depending on how that goes, that go be a plus or a negative.

It definitely won't touch Asteroid field/Dagobah. Will it surpass the Death Star rescue is my question.
 
I'm expecting it to review well and to hold up.

I am a little concerned about the second act though. Seems like that's the shakiest part of the plot. The kids steal the ship then next thing you know they are with Han. Then they're at a bar. Then a force vision/flashback/whatever. Hopefully they pull that Stormtrooper fight off.

We don't seem to know how Poe escapes, right? That's not even in the shot-list from what I remember. If that's in the second act, depending on how that goes, that go be a plus or a negative.

It definitely won't touch cloud city/Dagobah. Will it surpass the Death Star rescue is my question.

Han has the freighter. He comes across the falcon and gulps it up. They go to the Castle so Han can ask Maz for help.

We know how Poe escapes. It happens early in the first act and Finn breaks him out.
 
Han has the freighter. He comes across the falcon and gulps it up. They go to the Castle so Han can ask Maz for help.

I know I know. Just saying that it reads as the most convoluted.

All the "getting to know each other" stuff sounds very pleasant, and I like the footage that they've shown of that.

Third act seems to have the best action, but also some of the hardest hitting emotional scenes (Han and Finn rumored talk, Rey feeling touched by the fact they came back for her, the lightsaber fight, Hans death, etc).

We know how Poe escapes. It happens early in the first act and Finn breaks him out.

I was talking about how he gets off Jakku.
 
That's always been the most convenient aspect of the movie, to me.

I'm guessing its one of those "fuck it, just keep moving forward as fast as possible and they probably won't think to ask about it until waaaaaaaay later" things Kasdan's alluded to.
 
That's always been the most convenient aspect of the movie, to me.

I'm guessing its one of those "fuck it, just keep moving forward as fast as possible and they probably won't think to ask about it until waaaaaaaay later" things Kasdan's alluded to.

Yah, something like that. I mean, there probably is a reason for the encounter. A line of dialogue or something that smooths the gap. Maybe the Falcon, once activated, carries a trace that Han planted. I don't know - doubt he just shows up, but hey. If that's the film's biggest misstep, then so be it.
 
Is there really anything in the OT comparable to this, though?

The entire open of Star Wars is pretty coincidence filled. It plays better because we don't know any of the principals before we stumble across them ourselves.

I mean, the path by which Luke gets to Ben's hovel is REALLY coincidence filled, really. Remember that the PLAN was Leia just stops at Ben's pad and picks him up.
 
Poe getting off Jakku without explanation is going to bug me way more than Han finding them unless theres some throwaway line of a ship being missing or Leia saying they picked Poe up later on etc.
 
Poe getting off Jakku without explanation is going to bug me way more than Han finding them unless theres some throwaway line of a ship being missing or Leia saying they picked Poe up later on etc.

He probably just hides out after escaping the wreckage, charges a ship to the Resistance and bails.
 
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Imagine if they streamed this on Twitch. Twitch would explode. It would make Bob Ross or Twitch plays Pokemon look like an amateur like me streaming.
The audience for this stuff isn't Twitch. That wouldn't make much sense. YouTube is way more fitting and a much better avenue for this sort of media. Just like their Celebration live streams. And their Force Friday live stream in Swotemver
 
He probably just hides out after escaping the wreckage, charges a ship to the Resistance and bails.
Since there looks to be no scenes of Poe post Tie explosion and Finn assumes he is dead or missing till Finn sees him at the base I am guessing Poe will just sort of wave it off with a sarcastic reply when Finn is shocked to see him there and alive. And so it sort of hints at some other adventure that happens off screen. Which I think would be pretty cool. Sort of a Gandalf in the Hobbit sort of thing (the book, not the film.)
 
Vulture interview with Larry Kasdan on TFA leaks: http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/force-awakens-secrets-han-solo-original-george-lucas-treatment.html

Can you still keep Star Wars secrets in the age of Twitter?

One of the most famous film twists of all time came in 1980's The Empire Strikes Back, when Darth Vader revealed Luke Skywalker's true parentage. 35 years later, would the filmmakers be able to get away with a surprise that massive, since it would likely be spoiled on Twitter as soon as it leaked? "Everything is different, and I don’t even think of it so much as Twitter as it is the beast of the internet," said Kasdan. "The big thing is that you used to put out a trailer, and people would only see it if they went to the right movie. Now, you put out a picture and the entire world has it in five minutes! You put out a trailer, and there are 80 million views! A rumor or a spoiler can have 200 million views. That didn’t exist in the past."

Still, Kasdan said it didn't influence his scripting, and indeed, there are plenty of Force Awakens surprises still to come ... that is, as long as you didn't dig into a flood of spoiler-heavy images and secrets that were leaked over the past year, allegedly by disgruntled freelancers who'd been laid off last summer when the film temporarily halted production. Knowing how much Abrams values secrecy, I figured that leak must have been awfully painful for the production, but when I asked Kasdan how he himself felt about it, the 66-year-old just shrugged and smiled. "It’s incredibly painful in the world of keeping franchise secrets," he said, sanguine. "It’s not incredibly painful in the world."
 
Are people somewhat open to the idea this could be in the realm of Star Wars and Empire, or are people kinda building a fence around those two still?

I would love it to be of that quality but I don't know if it actually will be. Whilst I'm excited for this, I'm not on the hype train if you know what I mean. I'm not digging the new characters as much as I would like to and I keep having a "yeah it's alright" not a "wow fucking amazing " feeling whenever new footage emerges.

When I see the film I genuinely hope I love it and will watch it again and again like the original trilogy. There is a lot of overhyped shit being made by the big studios which plays a part in my caution.
 
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