Sibersk Esto
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more like everyone else gives too much of a fuck
Dragon Ball Super |OT| 28 Episodes Later
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more like everyone else gives too much of a fuck
EightBitNate
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I mean is it too much to ask that the show at least looks as good as it did 20 years ago
The Silver
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you got a problem you can hit me up on rumblr bruh
Welfare
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After Ryu and Cloud, Goku has just as much chance to get in as anyone else.
I am hoping for it lol
Just watched Ep 23... And yeah, not surprised at all with what happens to Gohan. Can't believe a tiny bit of me thought he'd do something remotely relevant in terms of fighting. I just can't see him coming back at all. This combined with the information we know from the manga has really got me down.
Kyleripman
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If this can be answered without manga spoilers, what do you guys think the odds are of seeing regular red SSG again? Can Goku even achieve that form anymore? I know in the first movie it seemed like he kind of could.
The preview for episode 24 implies SSB is beyond SSG so probably low chance.
The next chapter should leak this week. Believe.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
I can't wait for Gohan to become even further irrelevant in the manga and we'll have to endure at least another full page of whining about how much of a jobber he is.
Icyflamez96
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Gohan will get buff again just ya'll wait
Kyleripman
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Yeah I guess he doesn't have much use for it anymore.
The form really grew on me throughout the BoG arc of Super, though.
Especially when said show is probably the most popular anime in the world, so popular it transcends the anime label.
BladeoftheImmortal
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Isn't it one of the movies?
Icyflamez96
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yes
Kyleripman
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Found this on r/DBZ:
![yvDl5fZh.jpg]](http://i.imgur.com/yvDl5fZh.jpg])
I thought some of the closeups looked great in this episode. This is a good example. For every weirdly proportioned Gohan, you get a moment of great art like this.
Yeah, like I said earlier it still blows my mind how much better Toei was with traditional cel animation.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Favorite animation style go!
Mine are:
Minoru Maeda, which is the closest to Toriyama's work and the most detailed
Keisuke Masunaga
Mine are:
Minoru Maeda, which is the closest to Toriyama's work and the most detailed
Keisuke Masunaga
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I despise Uchiyama episodes, especially because they put him in charge of so many important moments/fights. Ebisawa had his off moments too.
Slightly related:
Slightly related:
E the Shaggy
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How long were Goku and Vegeta training inside Whis' staff exactly? Was it years?
I feel like a transformation like SSGSJ should get a bit more explanation than "we punched each other for awhile."
I feel like a transformation like SSGSJ should get a bit more explanation than "we punched each other for awhile."
NeonZ
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It won't happen. In the movie, it happened because it was stated that Base and SSJ Goku only had part of the SSJGod's power, but in Super it was stated that SSJ Goku with God Ki absorbed was just as strong as SSJ God Goku, making the SSJ God form redundant. So, we probably will never see it again.
Well, there was the bit about ki control and minimizing ki waste, and also Whis talking about how if they could increase their power through his training and then turn into SSJs something special would happen.
I despise Uchiyama episodes, especially because they put him in charge of so many important moments/fights. Ebisawa had his off moments too.
Slightly related:
Still a lot better than the usual DB Super.
ElectricThunder
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I can't even read the power-up for Gohan to call Goku in a positive light on account of it, really, probably just being the case that Goku's finer ki control/focus has gotten a much higher ceiling for good old teleporting from the training with Whis than he realized/acknowledged thus far due to how suddenly it all played out.
Also, well, Goku could've also just made a mid-jump to King Kai's place first for a grand total of arriving to Freiza's beam being another foot or so closer to hitting Gohan.
A shame they didn't even give Vegeta a proper fight with Ginyu for the sake of old times---not sure how many other classic surprise returns they have left to leverage going forward for actually cool happenings at this rate.
The episode itself did move several plot bits forward, so that's something, but man alive Toei really could expend A Bit More Effort.
Also, well, Goku could've also just made a mid-jump to King Kai's place first for a grand total of arriving to Freiza's beam being another foot or so closer to hitting Gohan.
A shame they didn't even give Vegeta a proper fight with Ginyu for the sake of old times---not sure how many other classic surprise returns they have left to leverage going forward for actually cool happenings at this rate.
The episode itself did move several plot bits forward, so that's something, but man alive Toei really could expend A Bit More Effort.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Things I wouldn't want in super:
- more hidden androids
Man Gohan went out like a punk this most recent episode. I'm also not a big fan of how they are doing Jaco in the show. He was actually kind of a baller in the movie but in Super he's basically nothing 
Also why bother bringing back Ginyu if you're just going to kill him off 2 episodes later? What a waste of a plot thread :/
Tagoma and the Red Guy (forgot his name) could have been used to give the weaker Z fighters something to actually do of interest but nope. Just wasted potential.
Where is this from? I've probably already seen it but I don't remember. Looks so good <3
Also why bother bringing back Ginyu if you're just going to kill him off 2 episodes later? What a waste of a plot thread :/
Tagoma and the Red Guy (forgot his name) could have been used to give the weaker Z fighters something to actually do of interest but nope. Just wasted potential.
This is the only alternate "form" Gohan should have kept after the Ultimate powerup. The glasses are even reminiscent of Master Roshi and all the other martial arts masters/gods.
Where is this from? I've probably already seen it but I don't remember. Looks so good <3
I'm also not a big fan of how they are doing Jaco in the show. He was actually kind of a baller in the movie but in Super he's basically nothing
This was a problem with the Pilaf crew in the last arc as well.
I despise Uchiyama episodes, especially because they put him in charge of so many important moments/fights. Ebisawa had his off moments too.
Slightly related:
Yes! Rick and Morty is an amazing show!
Sibersk Esto
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Icyflamez96
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Got that covered already
What's going on
Ultra Numb
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Goku and Gohan strived towards something similar back in the Cell Saga. Instead of using the flawed bulky Ascended form, they opted to master the original Super Saiyan form instead. This meant using it for very long periods of time to the point where it becomes natural for them. Even in their sleep. This way there's no energy drain on their power. They can then use otherwise wasted energy to power up further if they need to.
I'm trying but I don't want to get hurt again
Yeah, that's one of the only ways Gohan can go on par with Goku and Vegeta in a short time period.
I'm hoping the story arc after ROF
with the tournament includes Gohan because Beerus senses he has the potential to be stronger than Goku/Vegeta.
A guy can dream
A guy can dream
Icyflamez96
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Can't be the exact same though since whatever exactly Whis is telling Goku is new to him.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It has nothing to do with the budget, it has to do with the state of the anime industry in combination with how stretched thin Toei is.
Toei probably doesn't even set the budget, that's probably Bandai and/or Shueisha, not that a bigger budget would help when the problem is extremely strict time scales and there being few animators with enough time to work on it since every animator already works to death on tons of projects at once.
dragonelite
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You guys talking about the animation details and drawing, has broken
super for me i keep noticing weird drawings more and more :'(
End of ignorance is a bliss era.
Will still watch cause its dragon ball
super for me i keep noticing weird drawings more and more :'(
End of ignorance is a bliss era.
Will still watch cause its dragon ball
ArchedThunder
Banned
I'm rewatching Z on Bluray right now and I'm about 40 something episodes in and boy do I wish you could screenshot blurays on PS4 because there is so much awful art in Z.
Super is far from perfect, but it isn't much worse than Z. Episode 5 was a huge low point but it has never gotten close to that low again.
NeonZ
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The South Kaioshin was a fighter type and the strongest amont the Kaioshin. Dai Kaioshin had a big gentle nature which was what dropped Buu's power.
This is the only alternate "form" Gohan should have kept after the Ultimate powerup. The glasses are even reminiscent of Master Roshi and all the other martial arts masters/gods.
Dat fluid animation <3
Favorite animation style go!
Mine are:
Minoru Maeda, which is the closest to Toriyama's work and the most detailed
I'd never noticed there were so many different styles. To me there were only three really distinguishable styles:
1. The best one: Minoru Maeda, as per your pics (look at how badass Frieza looks!); am I right in assuming he was also responsible for the episode where Future Trunks arrives on Earth and kills Frieza? That has got to be the best DBZ episode in terms of animation (or at least, quality of the drawings)
2. The weird one with scrunchy faces but still okay: that's Keisuke Masunaga
3. The really bad one: screw Masayuki Uchiyama
No idea there were so many others, judging by Kagari's post.
And you know what's worst? Even with Masayuki Uchiyama, at least the animation itself was good. Well, it had tons of frames anyway. Dragon Ball Super can't even match that most of the time.
[FAKE EDIT] There was a fourth one I noticed: whoever did some of the GT episodes, especially the one where Goku fights Frieza and Cell in hell. I think I might even like Uchiyama's style more than that one, which is saying something. At least Uchiyama's style was unapologetically bad.
ArchedThunder
Banned
The climax of the BoG arc had some really great animation at various points and I imagine we're going to see something similar with the rest of the F arc.
You made me check the gaming side.
Why the fuck you lyin?
You made me check the gaming side.
Why the fuck you lyin?
But South Kaioshin was also good too, presumably. Shouldn't Buu's power have gone down then as well?
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Whoever drew the Trunks intro ep is my fav.
I think this was made especially apparent because the episode right after had terrible animation
I think this was made especially apparent because the episode right after had terrible animation
ArchedThunder
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