Head.spawn
Junior Member
You can set up a profile to boot straight into Big Picture Mode if you wanted to do so.
What`s the point in buying consoles if they take PC like approaches?
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You can set up a profile to boot straight into Big Picture Mode if you wanted to do so.
Serious question. Why is it a loss? When did this become a contest?
jellies_two
Member
But it's not.
Having games that auto update and are buggy on launch only takes one a little along the road to PC gaming.
Having games that auto update and are buggy on launch only takes one a little along the road to PC gaming.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Consoles doesn`t come with a comfy couch. You could always use the same couch for a PC.
Joke post?
Hell even the Wii U is seeing emulation already...
Coaches are over rated..
Comfy desk chair with some headphones on. Gaming bliss... no distractions.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
PC and consoles are "learning" from one another. It would be naive to say that PC isnt adopting console-like qualities as well. What do you think Steam is? Controllers and big-screen gaming on PC is way more popular now than it was 5 years ago. And everyone knows that those Alienware SteamOS machines aren't aimed at PC gamers: they're aimed at console gamers, which is why they're so much like consoles.
Consoles are becoming an extension of each company's overall service package (I.e PSN or XBL). Even Nintendo is catching on of the NX patents are any indication. PCs will always have that trade off of being more flexible but less streamlined (out of the box, at least).
Consoles are becoming an extension of each company's overall service package (I.e PSN or XBL). Even Nintendo is catching on of the NX patents are any indication. PCs will always have that trade off of being more flexible but less streamlined (out of the box, at least).
TheSpoiler
Member
Oh.
I mean, could the same not apply to console gaming as well, though?
Hit up Craigslist for a good deal, and suddenly the cost of anything is significantly lowered.
Ease of use. Yes, I know plugging in a console and plugging in a computer requires the same amount of cords, but consoles are just easier, okay?
It's pretty easy to use once it's set up, took me longer to configure my friends Xbone than installing Windows and setting it up.
- Playing with my friends. Sure, PC Master Race types, there are one or two people using Steam and Origin, but it's hardly ubiquitous. Few people own computers.
Disagree, a lot of friends are at least on Steam, even children.
They love Rocket League and Duck game.
- Comfy couch. Look, if you want to crunch up in front of a small ass monitor, then by all means, do so. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here chilling on a couch, playing with a controller; an experience that simply isn't possible with a computer.
I play from the couch, also watch videos thanks to a comfy wireless keyboard logitech k400
- I want to play games, not tweak settings. Console games just work. You pop in the disc and bam, you're playing right away. On the PC, you have to download the game, (probably after sitting through software updates), install the game and then and only then can you play it.
Tweaking games takes uo to a few minutes.
No reason to do more other than a lot of modding but that's optional.
That means you really don't have to do if.
- Upgrades. The Xbox 360 lasted a long, long time. And when it came time for a new one, I just went to the store and bought a new one. When the One came out, I just went to the store and bought it. I'm glad PC fans like searching for and assembling parts before playing games, but I'd rather just jump into the action. And don't even get me started on having to replace the graphic card every time some awesome new game comes out. I didn't have to upgrade my One to play Witcher 3.
Funny enough pc last longer, just recently found out my friend still plays with his Crysis pc just fine
Of course not on max full hd but he can play the games he wants so he doesn't want to upgrade now.
- Computers are for work, not play. When it's time to play games, I just want to sit at something and get going. I don't want to have to wade through a mess load of screens and popups just to get started. If I have to see the Steam advertisement window pop up one more time when I'm just trying to play, I'm going to lose it! Consoles don't have to deal with any of that mess.
No, they're not.
Computer are computers, you xan do whatever you want with them.
Use steam overlay to get an couch friendly console like ui.
- Exclusives. Call me when the PC gets high profile exclusives like Mario and Halo. Nuff said.
PC blows out the consoles out of of he water, no reason to argue here.
There are decades worth of AAA exclusices excluding emulation of PS2, Wii and Gamecube.
F-Zero GX, Project M and modded Mario Kart are exclusive in Full HD with your favorite controller on pc!
- Controller. This sort of goes back to the "PCs are for work" but games don't feel right when you have to use the same input device as when you're putting together a work schedule. Controllers just feel better for playing games.
Qe currently have 4 360 pads, 4 DS4s, 2 DS3s, several Wii motes, PS3 and 360 fightsticks and pads and a steam controller.
A few reason why we don't play on our Wii U is because the insane about of money you have to invest in the controller, we rather play alternatives on pc then play the newest ones on Wii U.
Also it looks like Wii U will be good playable in a few years, the emulator progressed fast and I can't to play Smash U on pc.
Until then we have more than enough to play.
Any more misinformation you want to spread?
It's pretty easy to use once it's set up, took me longer to configure my friends Xbone than installing Windows and setting it up.
- Playing with my friends. Sure, PC Master Race types, there are one or two people using Steam and Origin, but it's hardly ubiquitous. Few people own computers.
Disagree, a lot of friends are at least on Steam, even children.
They love Rocket League and Duck game.
- Comfy couch. Look, if you want to crunch up in front of a small ass monitor, then by all means, do so. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here chilling on a couch, playing with a controller; an experience that simply isn't possible with a computer.
I play from the couch, also watch videos thanks to a comfy wireless keyboard logitech k400
- I want to play games, not tweak settings. Console games just work. You pop in the disc and bam, you're playing right away. On the PC, you have to download the game, (probably after sitting through software updates), install the game and then and only then can you play it.
Tweaking games takes uo to a few minutes.
No reason to do more other than a lot of modding but that's optional.
That means you really don't have to do if.
- Upgrades. The Xbox 360 lasted a long, long time. And when it came time for a new one, I just went to the store and bought a new one. When the One came out, I just went to the store and bought it. I'm glad PC fans like searching for and assembling parts before playing games, but I'd rather just jump into the action. And don't even get me started on having to replace the graphic card every time some awesome new game comes out. I didn't have to upgrade my One to play Witcher 3.
Funny enough pc last longer, just recently found out my friend still plays with his Crysis pc just fine
Of course not on max full hd but he can play the games he wants so he doesn't want to upgrade now.
- Computers are for work, not play. When it's time to play games, I just want to sit at something and get going. I don't want to have to wade through a mess load of screens and popups just to get started. If I have to see the Steam advertisement window pop up one more time when I'm just trying to play, I'm going to lose it! Consoles don't have to deal with any of that mess.
No, they're not.
Computer are computers, you xan do whatever you want with them.
Use steam overlay to get an couch friendly console like ui.
- Exclusives. Call me when the PC gets high profile exclusives like Mario and Halo. Nuff said.
PC blows out the consoles out of of he water, no reason to argue here.
There are decades worth of AAA exclusices excluding emulation of PS2, Wii and Gamecube.
F-Zero GX, Project M and modded Mario Kart are exclusive in Full HD with your favorite controller on pc!
- Controller. This sort of goes back to the "PCs are for work" but games don't feel right when you have to use the same input device as when you're putting together a work schedule. Controllers just feel better for playing games.
Qe currently have 4 360 pads, 4 DS4s, 2 DS3s, several Wii motes, PS3 and 360 fightsticks and pads and a steam controller.
A few reason why we don't play on our Wii U is because the insane about of money you have to invest in the controller, we rather play alternatives on pc then play the newest ones on Wii U.
Also it looks like Wii U will be good playable in a few years, the emulator progressed fast and I can't to play Smash U on pc.
Until then we have more than enough to play.
Any more misinformation you want to spread?
You should quote that.
And just copying what I said before to back you up.
Did someone say Mario?
Also, your list is mostly bullshit other then exclusives and upgrades. The latter not even being a fact. There's this very thread about people with old hardware still playing games today. Someone even has a picture of their old PC playing Witcher 3 at 1920x1080 and high/ultra with hbao+ and hairworks on at a locked 30FPS. Do you seriously believe the stuff you say?
roadrunn3r
Member
That's not true, I downloaded my exclusive comfy coach from psn, took a while but it was worth it.
No, you can save of course a bit of money but pc 2nd market os a complete different thing than buying a current gen 2nd hand.
The most savings you can have are on the games.
This reminds me why everyone is into mITX these days. The tower chassis is too clunky for the TV room.
Also KB/M on a couch.
Malcolm9
Member
The mainstream still, and will always see consoles as the main platform to play games.
Ease of use, friends also owning them giving the ability to lend games & play online together. Exclusives help but consoles are currently the main draw for a gamer.
If you feel you need to go beyond that with even better graphics (due to having more options), framerates etc then a PC allows you to do that. Most I would say are happy with what consoles give right now.
Ease of use, friends also owning them giving the ability to lend games & play online together. Exclusives help but consoles are currently the main draw for a gamer.
If you feel you need to go beyond that with even better graphics (due to having more options), framerates etc then a PC allows you to do that. Most I would say are happy with what consoles give right now.
Wouldn't the mainstream be PC since League and Dota have more people playing than all consoles users combined?
I'm screwing with you.
Kwansu Dudes
Member
Most of my friends own consoles and I like the ease of use. I have a decent PC I use for repurchases or PC exclusives.
It's weird, but I feel like the 1% who own top tier systems aren't really into social gaming/gaming with friends so they ignore consoles completely.
It's weird, but I feel like the 1% who own top tier systems aren't really into social gaming/gaming with friends so they ignore consoles completely.
Of course you can. But with a console you don't have to. My computer is for work. I like getting home and turning my ps4 on. Dat chime! Also exclusives and share play. It is not all fantasy, some advantages are real life.
TheSpoiler
Member
Is it?
I'm not familiar with that system, but if it's anything like Craigslist, getting a PS4 for 300 or less would take some work, but not completely impossible.
Ease of use, and knowing that games will run with few issues, no matter if you have a day one console or a 10 year into cycle one.
Let's take a pc from 2006 and see if it can run games that are released for 360 today. Not even talking about price difference, would even a top of the line 2006 pc be able to run blops 3?
Let's take a pc from 2006 and see if it can run games that are released for 360 today. Not even talking about price difference, would even a top of the line 2006 pc be able to run blops 3?
PeakPointMatrix
Member
You mean like the last time I turned on my Wii U and I had an OS update waiting for me, on top of a Smash patch that needed installing (for which I ran out of internal memory), and had to delete and backup my saves and previous downloads just to make room for? Don't even get me started on the cumbersome trial and error trying different storage methods for memory/patch backups through the all-too-vague memory management menus. I love the WiiU, but it has actually been worse than the PS4 for me this gen when it comes to "plug and play" ease of access.
For me its really just a case of: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overchoice
When I'm on PC I spend way too much time fretting over settings and what is the next upgrade I will have to get because there is no way I can play anything that is not running perfectly. There's a sense that I'm missing out if it's not on maximum at 60fps. On consoles everyone is on the same boat and there is nothing I can do about it. I just buy and play.
When I'm on PC I spend way too much time fretting over settings and what is the next upgrade I will have to get because there is no way I can play anything that is not running perfectly. There's a sense that I'm missing out if it's not on maximum at 60fps. On consoles everyone is on the same boat and there is nothing I can do about it. I just buy and play.
TheSpoiler
Member
I game on both, but some of these suggestions depend completely on the person. For some, tinkering with the settings is either a non-issue or easy as hell. For others, it's a pain.
Looking for a decent deal for a PC might be far easier in some countries than others, for both systems.
Some people don't have a good layout for a console, and some don't have a decent layout for PCs.
Both platforms cross up and intersect, but you'll find people buy based on preference to their lifestyle rather than moving shit around to accommodate that.
Looking for a decent deal for a PC might be far easier in some countries than others, for both systems.
Some people don't have a good layout for a console, and some don't have a decent layout for PCs.
Both platforms cross up and intersect, but you'll find people buy based on preference to their lifestyle rather than moving shit around to accommodate that.
I'm with you 100%.
Jawbreaker
Member
Because I like Sony exclusives. And as long as Nintendo's doing their thing, I'll be buying their consoles and have the option to emulate older ones on my PC.
Are you going to compare the very few patches from Nintendo to all of Sony/Microsoft? Either way, yes.
We'll, why should you get a 300 PS4?
Pay a bit more ( just about 400) and you can get insanely better hardware.
You can get 300 bucks pc, still better than a PS4 hardware wise but as I said the price/performance ratio is big in the under 500 price market.
Just because you can get it doesn't mean you should get it.
Even on the same price point it's not a match between it.
lukeskymac
Member
- Ask what's the point of consoles for the Nth time
- Get a variety of responses, some of which probably are the reason
- Deny everything anyway. Meanwhile PS4 just broke Sony's Black Friday record for "nothing", I suppose.
- Get a variety of responses, some of which probably are the reason
- Deny everything anyway. Meanwhile PS4 just broke Sony's Black Friday record for "nothing", I suppose.
UnrealEck
Member
I have the same problem when I play a game on a console that's running like crap and I can, as you say 'do nothing about it'. I spend too much time fretting over wishing I was playing it on a PC.
They're not exactly dead on PC.
Plenty of multiplayer games by smaller or lesser-known developers have well-populated servers.
I've seen this being said a few times. Are people under the impression that there's barely anyone playing games online on PC or something? Or am I missunderstanding your point? If so, what do you mean?
Lies. Much older games actually have active communities on PC unlike consoles. I'm not saying millions but active. You can find a match in plenty of strategy games even. Hell, Age of Empires II had a damn expansion released. Battlefront II is going strong. Battlefield 2142 is kicking.
Call of Duty is dead on PC because Activision killed it. Not exactly sure how BLOPS III is doing.
League of Legends is bigger than all of them anyway and you realize Activision is a "mega established" brand right?
KZXcellent
Member
The thread seems to be boiling down to "Post why you prefer consoles!
...so we can tell you why you're wrong.
LOL. This made me chuckle
TheSpoiler
Member
Because
And there are a bunch of games that won't arrive on the PC. Personally, I like having both, but if a person doesn't feel like shopping around and doing the work, that's fine. You could make an argument that you shouldn't settle for subpar 400 dollar quality PC parts when you could upgrade and not have to worry for years.
Some people here are living a bubble and can't understand how other people live differently. That goes for both sides.
Fixed. Although the PC side is getting a bit more vocal on the last two pages.
David Ricardo
Member
Simplicity
Not having to worry about my hardware meeting the game requirements
Less hacking, no botaiming, etc
99%+ of console gamers play with the standard controller, so I don't have to worry about playing against people with kb/m
Same graphics settings for everyone. Nobody has an advantage because his machine runs better or has different graphics settings that allow him to see you first or whatever
Trophies (yes, I like trophies)
Not having to worry about my hardware meeting the game requirements
Less hacking, no botaiming, etc
99%+ of console gamers play with the standard controller, so I don't have to worry about playing against people with kb/m
Same graphics settings for everyone. Nobody has an advantage because his machine runs better or has different graphics settings that allow him to see you first or whatever
Trophies (yes, I like trophies)
RealityCheque
Banned
Great jokes, you should take that stuff on tour.
So onto your counterargument about why PC gaming isn't perfectly easy and user friendly and how issues with drivers and compatibility aren't a thing of the past? Anything, no? OK just the jokes it is then.
FYI I have a PC and a PS4 both hooked up to my TV. I do about 80% of my gaming on PC because there are more games there, for way better prices. I have never found the PC experience to be anything other than straightforward and I control the machine 100% with a wireless Xbone controller using BPM. I use the PS4 for the exclusives, it's a nice machine.
My point, which you completely forgot to counter in your hilarious reply, is that people who think PCs are somehow only for tech heads need to look at the here and now of it. It plugs into my TV and play it from the couch like a controller, it boots faster than my PS4, it loads games faster, driver updates are more seamless than ever (mine just install automatically in the background and never bother me). That's PC gaming today and it's getting more and more console-like all the time.
PS: send me some dates/times for when your stand up tour begins.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Don't make the WiiU out to be the one and only "true" plug and play console when it couldn't be further from the truth and shares the habitual download/update/patch cycles of its console brothers. Like the PS4, it's all handled automatically in the background anyway, so it should never interfere with gaming proper. That is unless you run out of the pittance of storage provided to you in the WiiU.
StrategyFan
Member
the point is mainly to gain access to games that aren't on PC, but I still find the notion of buying hardware when what I'm really after is software to be kind of wasteful and outdated
like if I buy $450 in hardware to play $400 worth of games, the console maker would make more money if I could just buy the games for $600 instead, but there's no option for that
i don't know about this forwards compatibility stuff, but consoles don't seem to be getting closer to PC-like approaches
the hardware is becoming more and more like old PCs, but the core experience is the same locked-down gamer-unfriendly hassle that it has always been
console gaming is like PC gaming if you had to buy a new keyboard every time you upgraded your computer and if the buttons on that keyboard were in different places depending on whether you bought a game from Steam or GOG or Origin and if you had to buy your older games all over again if you want to replay them on new hardware
like if I buy $450 in hardware to play $400 worth of games, the console maker would make more money if I could just buy the games for $600 instead, but there's no option for that
i don't know about this forwards compatibility stuff, but consoles don't seem to be getting closer to PC-like approaches
the hardware is becoming more and more like old PCs, but the core experience is the same locked-down gamer-unfriendly hassle that it has always been
console gaming is like PC gaming if you had to buy a new keyboard every time you upgraded your computer and if the buttons on that keyboard were in different places depending on whether you bought a game from Steam or GOG or Origin and if you had to buy your older games all over again if you want to replay them on new hardware
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Seriously. I just posted why console and PC gaming are totally different and a poster thought it was so wrong that he had to post the same reply twice!
Malcolm9
Member
Like?
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Yeah, you can totally do that on PC too.
RealityCheque
Banned
FW updates and patches?
Kurt Russell
Member
Reading is hard.
(though I must say that I agree with both of you, the only reason for me to buy consoles is always the same, exclusivity deals)