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[pringles]

Kylo being such an underdeveloped villain was the main problem, though. There was no history there to connect to.
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But he was BY FAR the best developed villain in any of the 1st movies of the trilogies? Darth Vader is one-dimensional, evil, no backstory to connect to in ANH. Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

Kylo had more screen time and more complex material than both Vader and Maul. Honestly Kylo Ren's development in this ONE movie rivals that of Vader's entire OT arc. Heck add in the entire PT and I'd still rank Kylo Ren as a slightly more interesting villain so far than Vader.

 

[ghst]

Luke's current re-introduction is just kind of a super-weird note to close to credits on. It actually does feel like an after-credits 'Look what's coming next, OH SHIT' Marvel stinger.

you have to wonder whether that was ever meant to be and there were a lot of arguments which resulted in the scene being uncomfortably shoved on the end.

the whole encounter was completely bizarre and out of place. think of our first introductions to yoda and obi wan, modest and friendly figures who don't have an ounce of pomposity or brooding big man syndrome about them.

i'd have loved luke to just be found doing some farming, cooking, fixing up a broken part or doing some other domestic chore or even a hobby. rey would approach him with a million charged questions and he would just smile and bring the conversation right down to the small details of whatever he was doing, how seawater always messes up the gearheads in the vaporators.

you can't really end a film like that, but it was a bad way to end the film anyway.

 

[nephilimdj]

IErr, the storm troopers haven't been clones since the original trilogy.

Okay, Im just confused about the chat between the general and kylo about a few stormtroopers also changing like finn.
Plus finn was summoned for some type of test due to him removing his helmet, and kylo noticing him.

are stormtroopers magically unlocking Midichlorians and turning good

 

[Ithil]

But he was BY FAR the best developed villain in any of the 1st movies of the trilogies? Darth Vader is one-dimensional, evil, no backstory to connect to in ANH. Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

Kylo had more screen time and more complex material than both Vader and Maul. Honestly Kylo Ren's development in this ONE movie rivals that of Vader's entire OT arc. Heck add in the entire PT and I'd still rank Kylo Ren as a slightly more interesting villain so far than Vader.

It's quite hilarious really, because in ANH Vader is just an evil dude. He only has like ten minutes of screentime even. All that you take from him is he looks cool and is an asshole.

 

[ColonialRaptor]

But he was BY FAR the best developed villain in any of the 1st movies of the trilogies? Darth Vader is one-dimensional, evil, no backstory to connect to in ANH. Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

Kylo had more screen time and more complex material than both Vader and Maul. Honestly Kylo Ren's development in this ONE movie rivals that of Vader's entire OT arc. Heck add in the entire PT and I'd still rank Kylo Ren as a slightly more interesting villain so far than Vader.

Vader has 3 whole films of development now though. The trouble is that this is a sequel not the first movie in a new series.

 

[Mistle]

I just remembered "that's not how the force works!" haha. He delivered that line brilliantly. Cracked my theater up, same with he BB8 thumbs up.

 

[majik13]

The staging of the scene on a huge abyss and bridge made it super obvious what was going to happen too. Plus i don't think the effects work was strong here with the obvious bluscreen backdrop. It just created a disconnect for me, i guess.

pffff, wrong!

Spoiler

It was a greenscreen.

 

[Tevious]

you have to wonder whether that was ever meant to be and there were a lot of arguments which resulted in the scene being uncomfortably shoved on the end.

the whole encounter was completely bizarre and out of place. think of our first introductions to yoda and obi wan, modest and friendly figures who don't have an ounce of pomposity or brooding big man syndrome about them.

i'd have loved luke to just be found doing some farming, cooking, fixing up a broken part or doing some other domestic chore or even a hobby. rey would approach him with a million charged questions and he would just smile and bring the conversation right down to the small details of whatever he was doing, how seawater always messes up the gearheads in the vaporators.

you can't really end a film like that, but it was a bad way to end the film anyway.

It should have just ended with Rey and Chewie leaving to look for Luke. Then start Episode VIII with them arriving on the planet and looking for him. There was no reason for Mark Hamil to be in this movie, except for fan service.

 

[Ithil]

Okay, Im just confused about the chat between the general and kylo about a few stormtroopers also changing like finn.
Plus finn was summoned for some type of test due to him removing his helmet, and kylo noticing him.

are stormtroopers magically unlocking Midichlorians

You're mixing two different things. Kylo just sensed something was off about one of the troopers, while Phasma seemed to suspect he hadn't obeyed the orders to shoot the villagers, she asked him to turn in his weapon for inspection (I assume to see if it was fired like everyone else's). Later when they hear Poe escaped with inside help, Kylo immediately knows it was the trooper he sensed something weird about earlier.
From what Finn said the troopers are neither clones (as in the PT) nor regular people signing up to be soldiers (as in the OT), but are now people forcefully recruited as children and raised conditioned to be obedient soldiers. The First Order seems to be fairly hardcore.

Vader has 3 whole films of development now though. The trouble is that this is a sequel not the first movie in a new series.

But it is a new character.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

It should have just ended with Rey and Chewie leaving to look for Luke. Then start Episode VIII with them arriving on the planet and looking for him. There was no reason for Mark Hamil to be in this movie, except for fan service.

I think announcing that Mark was returning painted them into a corner so they HAD to show Skywalker in some way.

 

[Messypandas]

Ren isn't under-developed, but imo what we see on screen is poor. He comes across like a whiny teenager with rockstar hair who has tantrums in his room when his incompetent staff can't fufil his orders. He just seemed like a bitch, and with Rey besting him pretty handily I'm not sure what they're building too. Yeah he was injured but you just got owned in your first film, hes going to be the underdog in the next one.

 

[hirokazu]

Because it's mediocre and people can't see it due to the haze of nostalgia that clouds their vision. Being around that shit is unreal. It's like some collective mind altering drug that 99% of people are taking.

I'm inclined to scream at people to fuck off if they even casually mention Star Wars to me at this point.

What are you doing in this thread if you can't take all this Star Wars in your face? LOL.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Maybe people just enjoy it for what it is? It's just a movie, relax.

But it's not is it? It's everywhere.

If it was just a movie I'd have walked out of the screening and just thought "well that was a waste of time" and be done with it. But Star Wars has become this whole thing that assaults my senses at every turn.

What are you doing in this thread if you can't take all this Star Wars in your face? LOL.

Trying to discuss a movie?

 

[The Last One]

Vader has 3 whole films of development now though. The trouble is that this is a sequel not the first movie in a new series.

It's Kylo's first movie though, so I didn't get your point.

 

[MrHoot]

Ren isn't under-developed, but imo what we see on screen is poor. He comes across like a whiny teenager with rockstar hair who has tantrums in his room when his incompetent staff can't fufil his orders. He just seemed like a bitch, and with Rey besting him pretty handily I'm not sure what they're building too. Yeah he was injured but you just got owned in your first film, hes going to be the underdog in the next one.

He does have a very punchable face (I admit that was my first thought when he took off his mask)

Watch him become the BIGGEST HEEL IN STAR WRESTLING WARS

If it was just a movie I'd have walked out of the screening and just thought "well that was a waste of time" and be done with it. But Star Wars has become this whole thing that assaults my senses at every turn.

I wish I had your problems in life. Would make mine way better

 

[chicko1983]

Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

I reckon he says something to Palpatine along the lines of "as you wish, Master" just before Palpatine says the Sith will return to power.

But that is the only line I can remember.

I just remembered "that's not how the force works!" haha. He delivered that line brilliantly. Cracked my theater up, same with he BB8 thumbs up.

I have seen the film twice. Both times I think people laughed louder at the Han line over the BB8 thumbs up, but only just.

 

[ghst]

It should have just ended with Rey and Chewie leaving to look for Luke. Then start Episode VIII with them arriving on the planet and looking for him. There was no reason for Mark Hamil to be in this movie, except for fan service.

yeah, agree there.

 

[pringles]

Ren isn't under-developed, but imo what we see on screen is poor. He comes across like a whiny teenager with rockstar hair who has tantrums in his room when his incompetent staff can't fufil his orders. He just seemed like a bitch, and with Rey besting him pretty handily I'm not sure what they're building too. Yeah he was injured but you just got owned in your first film, hes going to be the underdog in the next one.

Exactly. That's intentional. Those tantrums were almost too on-the-nose in terms of "look how childish he is". You think he's not going to have an arc? He's lost a fight, gotten wounded and scarred. He confronted his father and got rid of the biggest thing standing between him and fully committing to the dark side. And now he'll go back to Snoke to "finish his training". I'm quite sure he'll be back with a vengeance.

What ?

This is so blatantly wrong I am not even sure where to start here.

We saw Anakin as a child, how he came late into the jedi order, had to leave his mother behind on a trash planet, how he started falling in love which was prohibited, finding his mother was sold and tortured then ultimately killed, we saw Anakin actually doing amazing and impressive things, showing his potential and growth over the films, his relation with the dark side after the loss of his mother, his feelings that were not contained, Palpatine exploiting his weakness, the fear of losing his loved one, what he was willing to sacrifice etc...

Unfortunately all of that was portrayed very poorly and Hayden Christensen gave Anakin no arc what so ever (didn't help that they wasted 1 movie on having Anakin as an annoying child). So it fell flat for me. But you're still comparing several movies worth of development to only 1 film.

 

[Slaythe]

But he was BY FAR the best developed villain in any of the 1st movies of the trilogies? Darth Vader is one-dimensional, evil, no backstory to connect to in ANH. Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

Kylo had more screen time and more complex material than both Vader and Maul. Honestly Kylo Ren's development in this ONE movie rivals that of Vader's entire OT arc. Heck add in the entire PT and I'd still rank Kylo Ren as a slightly more interesting villain so far than Vader.

What ?

This is so blatantly wrong I am not even sure where to start here.

We saw Anakin as a child, how he came late into the jedi order, had to leave his mother behind on a trash planet, how he started falling in love which was prohibited, finding his mother was sold and tortured then ultimately killed, we saw Anakin actually doing amazing and impressive things, showing his potential and growth over the films, his relation with the dark side after the loss of his mother, his feelings that were not contained, Palpatine exploiting his weakness, the fear of losing his loved one, what he was willing to sacrifice etc...

What the fuck did we get for Kylo that is anywhere near that ?

"Oh boo woo the light side is seducing me" "I am torn inside" "Join me !"

As he stands, he is a moronic ungrateful brat who can't make up his mind, throws tantrum every two seconds, and gets bested in force control and lightsaber duel (while wounded) against a girl who literally awakened her powers 5 minutes ago. He looks like a child, acts like a child, and we don't even know anything about why he's doing it, you can't possibly say the guy is more developed than the whole Vader story arc.

He might (and we all hope he will) be much more in the sequels when they elaborate on his backstory, and try to redeem him.

 

[Spotless Mind]

But he was BY FAR the best developed villain in any of the 1st movies of the trilogies? Darth Vader is one-dimensional, evil, no backstory to connect to in ANH. Darth Maul is even worse in TPM. Does he even speak?

Kylo had more screen time and more complex material than both Vader and Maul. Honestly Kylo Ren's development in this ONE movie rivals that of Vader's entire OT arc. Heck add in the entire PT and I'd still rank Kylo Ren as a slightly more interesting villain so far than Vader.

I wouldn't really dispute any of that. I'm not dissing the film at all. I think it was a MAJOR step up from the prequels. I'm just trying to parse why Han's death fell so flat for me. In terms of feeling underdeveloped, i'm more talking the history between Han and Ben. We are told he is Han and Leia's son and that's about it. There was nothing to connect to in their relationship, so Han dying by his hand lacked a lot of emotional resonance for me.

 

[Messypandas]

THE DARK SIDE IS TEARING ME APART HAN.

 

[Veggy]

I rate it 7/10, it was good but it had so many issues, feels like I'm one of the few people not wearing "omg its star wars!!!" goggles. Some of the things that spring to mind

Lightsaber duel was terrible
Airborne fights pretty weak
Weak story
Didn't like any of the new protagonists
Ren without his mask was just.....lol

There was a bunch of stupid shit too like the whole Han Solo being a father figure to her, THEY BARELY HAD ANY SCREENTIME TOGETHER

Which reminds me, not only was Han's death super obvious but it was poorly executed too, one of the best Star Wars characters and in the end I didn't even care when he died

Thinking back on all this I think I was too generous with a 7/10

 

[Fix The Scientist]

I thought the final two minutes were fucking amazing. You don't need dialogue to convey emotion.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Bitchassness is a hereditary trait in the Skywalker bloodline.

 

[hpkomic]

But it's not is it? It's everywhere.

If it was just a movie I'd have walked out of the screening and just thought "well that was a waste of time" and be done with it. But Star Wars has become this whole thing that assaults my senses at every turn.



Trying to discuss a movie?

Holy shit then quit posting in the fucking thread and exposing yourself to it. Play a game, watch a movie you actually like. Read a book.

Christ.

 

[chicko1983]

Would have been better if after his weird struggle to force pull the saber that 'belongs to me' from the snow, it flies into Luke's hand. And Luke saves Finn and Rey.

You'd just have to have Leia notice R2 reactivating beforehand while supervising the assault.

Luke's current re-introduction is just kind of a super-weird note to close to credits on. It actually does feel like an after-credits 'Look what's coming next, OH SHIT' Marvel stinger.

Totally agree.

When I saw the lightsaber twitch in the snow, I was like "Oh yeah, here comes Luke"...and then I was equally pumped when Rey picked it up! haha.

But I agree with sentiment that they should have finished the movie before Rey and Chewie went to find Luke. Revealing Luke did feel like a cheap move from JJ to keep people keen for the next film. He didn't really have to do that at this stage.

 

[lastplayed]

I reckon he says something to Palpatine along the lines of "as you wish, Master" just before Palpatine says the Sith will return to power.

But that is the only line I can remember.

He had a couple of lines, one about tracing them on Tatooine and about the Sith taking back the galaxy.

 

[Ithil]

What ?

This is so blatantly wrong I am not even sure where to start here.

We saw Anakin as a child, how he came late into the jedi order, had to leave his mother behind on a trash planet, how he started falling in love which was prohibited, finding his mother was sold and tortured then ultimately killed, we saw Anakin actually doing amazing and impressive things, showing his potential and growth over the films, his relation with the dark side after the loss of his mother, his feelings that were not contained, Palpatine exploiting his weakness, the fear of losing his loved one, what he was willing to sacrifice etc...

What the fuck did we get for Kylo that is anywhere near that ?

"Oh boo woo the light side is seducing me" "I am torn inside" "Join me !"

As he stands, he is a moronic ungrateful brat who can't make up his mind, throws tantrum every two seconds, and gets bested in force control and lightsaber duel (while wounded) against a girl who literally awakened her powers 5 minutes ago. He looks like a child, acts like a child, and we don't even know anything about why he's doing it, you can't possibly say the guy is more developed than the whole Vader story arc.

He might (and we all hope he will) be much more in the sequels when they elaborate on his backstory, and try to redeem him.

You must have watched a different PT to everyone else, because one of the biggest complaints was the weakness of Darth Vader's arc, that his story from Anakin to Vader was neither developed enough nor believable. I mean he switches from "I must save my wife" to "I must kill a roomful of children" literally between scenes, and he appears to lurch to different motivations even in the same scenes sometimes in E2 and 3.

Most of what happened with Kylo Ren has been left unexplained or unclear yet. We know the basics of what happened to turn him into Ren but not the specifics, which will obviously be explored further. But as far as comparing TFA and TPM, Kylo is considerably better than Anakin in that film.

 

[Rich!]

I can picture US audiences laughing uproariously at every mild joke and applauding at the end. Did that happen too? Please tell me it did.

LOL Leia? She was the weakest part of the film, if anything.



Wouldn't know. I'm a brit.

That happened at my screening.



In the UK.

Happened in my screening too. Also in the UK! There was also applause at the end, which I have never ever encountered before.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

A lot of what happened in the movie seemed to be coincidental too, which really bugged me.

Finn flees and runs into Poe, they flee and crash, then Finn runs into Rey, they flee and run into Han Solo, Han coincidentally spots his son on that one planet, and... a lot more stuff.

The characters are almost entirely driven by the plot, rather the character's choices driving the plot. It is simplistic writing and JJ Abrams and crew are better than that.

P.S. 40 years of off-screen character growth was undone because... Han and Leia went back to doing what they always do? GTFO with that shit. The filmmakers just wanted the Han Solo the fans knew rather than a Han who has undergone decades of development and that was their cop-out solution.

 

[MrHoot]

What ?

This is so blatantly wrong I am not even sure where to start here.

We saw Anakin as a child, how he came late into the jedi order, had to leave his mother behind on a trash planet, how he started falling in love which was prohibited, finding his mother was sold and tortured then ultimately killed, we saw Anakin actually doing amazing and impressive things, showing his potential and growth over the films, his relation with the dark side after the loss of his mother, his feelings that were not contained, Palpatine exploiting his weakness, the fear of losing his loved one, what he was willing to sacrifice etc...

What the fuck did we get for Kylo that is anywhere near that ?

"Oh boo woo the light side is seducing me" "I am torn inside" "Join me !"

As he stands, he is a moronic ungrateful brat who can't make up his mind, throws tantrum every two seconds, and gets bested in force control and lightsaber duel (while wounded) against a girl who literally awakened her powers 5 minutes ago. He looks like a child, acts like a child, and we don't even know anything about why he's doing it, you can't possibly say the guy is more developed than the whole Vader story arc.

He might (and we all hope he will) be much more in the sequels when they elaborate on his backstory, and try to redeem him.

Everything that Anakin "did" though was completely out of his control for the most part or had little influence on the overall plot. He was introduced only 45 mins in the movie, more than half of his prowess can be attributed to sheer dumb luck and he had the personality and acting range of a child actor. (As i'm comparing like their respective first movies, and not like Anakin's full run to Kylo's only movie so far)

Not saying that Ren was done perfectly but i'd say it's fair that as far as villains in their first appearance goes, he's the most rounded off as he's actually "someone"

 

[Ithil]

But it's not is it? It's everywhere.

If it was just a movie I'd have walked out of the screening and just thought "well that was a waste of time" and be done with it. But Star Wars has become this whole thing that assaults my senses at every turn.



Trying to discuss a movie?

Man I just can't take all this Star Wars everywhere, especially in this damn Star Wars thread I can't seem to leave!

 

[Hagi]

Best thing that happened at the theatre here was one guy shouting "GET IN THERE" when Rey went HAM and fucked Kylo Rens face up. Me and my girlfriend both burst out laughing.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

Man I just can't take all this Star Wars everywhere, especially in this damn Star Wars thread I can't seem to leave!

God forbid I want to actually discuss a fucking movie that I saw today. I'm sorry my opinions don't gel with the hive mind, but that's how it is.

 

[Rich!]

God forbid I want to actually discuss a fucking movie that I saw today.

In the worst most arrogant possible way.

 

[Joeytj]

4/10

I agree with most of the complaints here.

If they really wanted to rethread Ep 4, then it should have been fully self contained, the last scene was DREADFUL.
We all know its Luke, but we get climbing shots with Dingle in the background and when she gets there we have 'the reveal'.
And literally the most out of place helicopter shot I have seen. They looked ridiculous just standing there.

He should have appeared out of nowhere holding Vaders red lightsaber Cut to titles.
That would have driven the crowds wild.

Or at the very least Luke could have said something to tee up Ep 8, but no! is he shocked? is he looking mysterious? is he just wondering why she is just standing still for a few minutes holding his old lightsaber??
The movie ends a dud note, not a dull tone. Big big difference.



I think it was a huge missed opportunity not to make Luke the Max Von Sydow character at the start or similar. Poe doesnt know him, he is in hiding but he is watching, laying breadcrumbs for the next generation. obliviously have the introduction of Ren later.
We rethread the beats of Ep4, but the wrapper is different, could have lots of room to play against expectation.

the usual:
Ren a very poor bad guy.

I was expecting the usual lack of epicness from JJ movies, and there it was. They show a fucking comparison of the scale of the planet compared to the Death star... and we don't get to 'experience' it.

Phasma was totally underused, just marching slowly...

But many things took me out of the movie:
Rey saves bb8 for no reason, and then sets it free for no reason... wha?

Han Solo really doesnt care for his son, sees him carrying his maybe daughter onto a shuttle, 'stunned' into doing nothing

We see ships enter atmospheres, but we never see them land. Just a static set.

On the other hand:
BB8's thumbs up got the biggest laugh and reaction from the fully packed theatre, that was cool.
Han Solo guiding Finn to cool it was the second biggest reaction.

LOL, I've been reading some other reactions from people who didn't like most of the movie, and some are for the opposite reasons you give. One guy gave a rant about how Ren was the only good thing about the movie.

Oh well. I liked it a lot.

I knew this thing, no matter good or bad, was going to provoke strange, over-the-top, intense reactions, but it's still tiresome nonetheless. I'll just avoid reading any more of them for the time being and until the storm has passed.

By the way, the Visual Dictionary is incredible. It basically shows everything they cut from the movie, like the entire sub-plot involving the Senate, Leia's representative in it, and the Republic's current capital, Hosnian Prime.

Basically, the Republic now chooses a different capital every so often, so that it doesn't depend as much on one single planet or centralized government. It helps with preventing a dictator from rising, but it became too slow to respond to the First Order. But the movie completely glosses over that, probably because Abrams was too afraid the similarities with the politics of the prequels.

There's other awesome tidbits, like confirmation that Maz is Force sensitive, a brief description of Han's life after ROTJ, etc. Damn shame tons got cut out.

 

[lastplayed]

God forbid I want to actually discuss a fucking movie that I saw today. I'm sorry my opinions don't gel with the hive mind, but that's how it is.

You know, when I see a movie I don't like I usually forget about it and move on with my life. I don't sit in threads all night raging to people about it. But whatever floats your boat.

 

[BronsonLee]

Best thing that happened at the theatre here was one guy shouting "GET IN THERE" when Rey went HAM and fucked Kylo Rens face up. Me and my girlfriend both burst out laughing.

Now you know how I felt while watching Creed

KNOCK THAT SON OF A BITCH OUT

 

[Elitist1945]

Well I thought it was 10/10 lol. From what I see not many people agree?

 

[lastplayed]

Well I thought it was 10/10 lol. From what I see not many people agree?

No I think plenty agree, I loved it. I need to see it as many times as possible.

 

[void666]

I loved the saber duels. Come at me.

 

[The Last One]

Well I thought it was 10/10 lol. From what I see not many people agree?

I think most people will agree the movie is great.

 

[Ithil]

It was mildly amusing. That's about it.
People must be really easily pleased if they found that hilarious.

I can picture US audiences laughing uproariously at every mild joke and applauding at the end. Did that happen too? Please tell me it did.

Because it's mediocre and people can't see it due to the haze of nostalgia that clouds their vision. Being around that shit is unreal. It's like some collective mind altering drug that 99% of people are taking.
I'm inclined to scream at people to fuck off if they even casually mention Star Wars to me at this point.

But it's not is it? It's everywhere.

If it was just a movie I'd have walked out of the screening and just thought "well that was a waste of time" and be done with it. But Star Wars has become this whole thing that assaults my senses at every turn.

God forbid I want to actually discuss a fucking movie that I saw today. I'm sorry my opinions don't gel with the hive mind, but that's how it is.

I see little discussion here.

 

[Veggy]

Best thing that happened at the theatre here was one guy shouting "GET IN THERE" when Rey went HAM and fucked Kylo Rens face up. Me and my girlfriend both burst out laughing.

After 28 mins of ads I ended up shouting "show us the fucking force already"

 

[janoDX]

Because it's mediocre and people can't see it due to the haze of nostalgia that clouds their vision. Being around that shit is unreal. It's like some collective mind altering drug that 99% of people are taking.

I'm inclined to scream at people to fuck off if they even casually mention Star Wars to me at this point.

Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars Star Wars

Stop being salty, the movie was good, no nostalgia, no nothing, for every miss it had it had 10 hits. You people complain about everything and you don't enjoy it for what it is, a great movie.

It's all about finding the flaws, saying the movie is shit because you just don't like it and trying to shit on people who say otherwise, you're the cancer of the movies. Trying to shit all over the place because you want to be important.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

Trying to discuss a movie?

No, you're just passive-aggressively insulting everyone who liked the film.

 

[AlphaDragoon]

Until it gets cut in half quicker than Darth Maul taking the piss out of Obi Wan. She should keep Luke's it's not like he doesn't already have one.

Make it out of that same lightsaber-proof stuff Mr. Random Badass Stormtrooper has on his baton and you're good to go.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

I see little discussion here.

Thanks for not including the bits where I actually raise the problems I have with it.

 

[BronsonLee]

Well I thought it was 10/10 lol. From what I see not many people agree?

Nah it's shit

Listen to me and only me, the preeminent Star Wars aficionado

 

[lastplayed]

I loved the saber duels. Come at me.

They were great. I loved Rey's thrusting motions. I think she's been to the Palpatine school of fencing.