[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.

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Rey killed everybody.

The reason Luke is so perturbed at the end is because he's trying to decide whether to fucking kill the sod or not

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Now that'd be an interesting twist: if Rey was the one who killed all the new Jedi, and she was mind-wiped and left on Jakku because Luke wanted to stop her but not necessarily kill her.

did anyone find the musical score to be subpar compared to ALL the rest of the other Star Wars movies?

besides Leia and Luke's theme, there was no stand out new theme in the OST, the score was a little too ''modern'' for my tastes

I agree. Far and away my biggest (and really, only major) complaint was that the score was totally forgettable. Rey's motif was the only that sounded really distinct but even that didn't get enough of a build-up to really stick out as a memorable track.
 
Saddest death in the movie:

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RIP you beautiful bastard. FN-B4D455, you were the hero this movie deserved.

This scene was so good. Stormtroopers putting in work unlike Star Wars Rebels.
 
I just watched it for the first time. The audience was shit. I wanted to cheer and cry like a baby at soo many points I had to keep it in.

On the movie though. Bar far one of the best SW movies for me. Many references almost too many but I loved all of it because it really felt like a sequel to the OT. So many things happened. I have to watch it again next week. I will try it in 3D.

One thing I missed as others as well. The soundtrack didn't have any memorable themes. I have to listen to it though.
 
Does anyone have any funny videos of people spoiling the film for others and those people getting pissed off?

I mean, its a total asshole thing to do, but I kind of want to see nerd-rage at its highest possible level.
 
Of course it was a thumbs up, what about BB8's character or this films humour would suggest it was a middle finger.

The first thing he does when he catches up to Finn is electrocute the shit out of him... twice, while he was talking. I took the flame as a "I'll cut you bitch" because all Finn does up to that point is lie. Team #cutyoubitch
 
So how did Maz get the lightsaber? No one aside from Luke would even know where to look, and assuming he even gave it much thought, it would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

I guess gravity would have pulled it towards the core where it should have been smashed on impact or crushed by the pressure.

I think Luke gave it to her. I think most of Rey's journey was set up by Luke to lead her to him.
 
So how did Maz get the lightsaber? No one aside from Luke would even know where to look, and assuming he even gave it much thought, it would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

I guess gravity would have pulled it towards the core where it should have been smashed on impact or crushed by the pressure.

They leave it ambiguous. The pit that Luke falls down in ESB might have a bottom, too.
 
Rey killed everybody.

The reason Luke is so perturbed at the end is because he's trying to decide whether to fucking kill the sod or not

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WHOA.

honestly, i've never played KOTOR, but that twist is like ... that'd be a huge fuckin twist.
Sending away Rey not to protect HER but to protect others from her. whoa.

edit: oh right, she was like, elementary school age. The flashback to her killing the other kids would be comical. Nah, nvm that twist. Please don't make her Tom Riddle!
Phasma is a commander, no?

She's not going to be doing ground fighting.

uhm, well, why would she be constantly wearing her armor and not a grey suit and some sort of imperial cap. She's certainly someone who'll be part of the action.
 
I'm really sad I didn't get a sick space battle :(

i love my space battles. Planet attack was cool but there's something really fucking great about capital ships pounding each other with missiles while fighters and bombers are dogfighting all over the place
I was the exact opposite in that I really liked seeing in atmosphere battles for a change. We have a ton of space battles, so this felt new and exciting to me.
 
So thinking about it: do they ever explicitly say that Kylo was the one who killed all of Luke's students?

They say that Kylo used to be Luke's student before Snoke turned him.

Han says ONE of Luke's students killed everyone.

I know it's unlikely and Han probably just didn't want to mention it was Kylo, but it also sounds like they could be setting up bait and switch.

Also, the flash back scene where it happens is intentionally vague.

It's actually exactly stated in the visual dictionary page that was posted a couple of days ago in this thread:

 
*Thirty seconds into Episode 8, Luke uses the Force to throw that lightsaber into the ocean*

Rey - What the hell, Luke!?

Luke - Everyone who uses that thing is either dead or missing a hand.

Not even uses, anyone who even touches it has disaster befall him. Anakin got dismembered using it and is now dead, Obi-Wan only touched it and he's dead, Luke used it and is missing a hand, Han used it once and he's dead. The fuckin Wampa probably accidentally brushed off it and five minutes later had his arm cut off.

It's cursed.
 
Nah, Coruscant is a pretty amazing planet. Especially in the lower areas, there is so much potential.

i was joking about how ren kinda looked like snape and he said he wanted to see star wars die hard and now i do too. or star wars the raid.

lower coruscant is siiiickkkkk. i bet there's some great cyberpunk shit going on down there. street level coruscant in the x-wing novels was rad
 
So how did Maz get the lightsaber? No one aside from Luke would even know where to look, and assuming he even gave it much thought, it would be like finding a needle in a haystack.

I guess gravity would have pulled it towards the core where it should have been smashed on impact or crushed by the pressure.

I'm honestly glad they kept that ambiguous, do we really need an explanation of how Anakin's lightsaber managed to get there? It fell down the big pit in Cloud City, the same one Luke fell down and survived. Just assume that it also survived and someone found it.
 
Yap, they literally spit this out/retconned in TFA, the Sith are just the bad guys in PQ and not Dark Jedis.

I think it was Maz who said something about the Dark Side will always be around, be it the Sith, the Empire and now First Order..

Sith as they where in the first six are dark Jedi, Kylo was taught by Luke, if Kylo was a Jedi and has been turned then he would be a Sith.
 
Case in point, lol. Yeah.

Hey, I don't disagree that the movie isn't pretty damned contrived. I'll object more to "planet-collapsing implosion causes chasm to *perfectly* split up Rey and Kylo" than a stun weapon that the Empire *may* have developed to deal with a small and insanely powerful group of warriors that continually try to thwart their efforts.

Rey killed everybody.

The reason Luke is so perturbed at the end is because he's trying to decide whether to fucking kill the sod or not

Welcome to KOTOR Town

I thought that was an interesting little moment, mostly because of how Rey reacts to the scene. It could be interpreted in a lot of ways: her realizing she doesn't need to be scared around him; realizing that Luke isn't going to give her the time of day if she's that afraid; Luke could have "told" her to not be afraid; or, she's just trying to puff up in front of a legend.

did anyone find the musical score to be subpar compared to ALL the rest of the other Star Wars movies?

besides Leia and Luke's theme, there was no stand out new theme in the OST, the score was a little too ''modern'' for my tastes

Yeah, the score was very forgettable, except when they hearkened back to the original songs (dat love/Leia theme).

Although there was one song I really liked--I think it may have played during Han and Kylo's confrontation? It was during one of the darker scenes.
 
Still the Death Star blew up and is a sun. Surely he isnt alive. Unless chewy went looking for the body and has him in the Milleniums Falcon Bay.

Wait, so can someone explain this star killer to me? (fucking hate that name, too much with the inside baseball references). Was it build AROUND a sun? or just taking energy from an adjacent sun and then moving on? I feel like ti wasn't really explained. (like with so many othe rhtings).
 
What if Rey is a trained Jedi already, and she just doesn't remember it? :P

I legitimately think this might be the case -- she might have been a young student of Luke's when Kylo turned and has forgotten it either through PTSD or a mind wipe from Luke (possibly to prevent Kylo from tracking her down).
 
WHOA.

honestly, i've never played KOTOR, but that twist is like ... that'd be a huge fuckin twist.
Sending away Rey not to protect HER but to protect others from her. whoa.

I won't spoil KOTOR, but it'd be a similar (hilarious, mind you) twist.

lol as much as I LOVE this, nah, she was like what 7 yrs old when it happened? a younglering or w/e they are called?

7 year olds are real assholes, man
 
I think it's logical to assume First Order Stormtroopers, specifically ones under Ren's command, were probably trained specifically to kill Luke Skywalker - hence the anti-lightsaber batons.

Not even uses, anyone who even touches it has disaster befall him. Anakin got dismembered using it and is now dead, Obi-Wan only touched it and he's dead, Luke used it and is missing a hand, Han used it once and he's dead. The fuckin Wampa probably accidentally brushed off it and five minutes later had his arm cut off.

It's cursed.

The Ewok who took Luke's green lightsaber is probably fine and healthy. Vader touched the green lightsaber and turned good as a result.

Luke's Green Lightsaber > Luke's Blue Lightsaber

#TeamGreen
 
uhm, well, why would she be constantly wearing her armor and not a grey suit and some sort of imperial cap. She's certainly someone who'll be part of the action.

exactly! imagine everybody EVERYBODY like "damn dude, that capt. phasma was fucking merking fools with her shockbaton. and when goes toe to toe with finn after giving that sweet betrayal insult to him, damn sogood.gif"

instead ppl laughing at phasma and loving the unnamed stormtrooper
 
What books? They made books? Are they canon?

Don't kill me Kagari

The books that are NOW canon are: all the ones related to this movie (comics included).

Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Aftermath
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Lost Stars
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Moving Target
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Smugglers run
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Weapon of a Jedi.
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - before The Awakening

And comics

Shattered Empire, Leia, Rebels, Starwars all from marvel.
 
I think it's logical to assume First Order Stormtroopers, specifically ones under Ren's command, were probably trained specifically to kill Luke Skywalker - hence the anti-lightsaber batons.



The Ewok who took Luke's green lightsaber is probably fine and healthy. Vader touched the green lightsaber and turned good as a result.

Luke's Green Lightsaber > Luke's Blue Lightsaber

#TeamGreen

That's a good point.
 
"Anakin, you have had some premonitions of your wife dying in childbirth that I previously indicated I would 100% be able to stop. Now I tell you I might try and help you stop that and stuff but no guarantees. Now go kill a roomful of small children"

"Ok"

"Anakin, remember when you dreamed your mother died, and she totes did, well now that you dreamed your wife, your last loved one, would die, it's gonna happen. So how about we try to pierce the secret of eternal life, you and me, since, you know, you and I are the most powerful force users in the entire history of the universe, we might be able to figure it out, there is no guarantee of course, but it's worth a shot isn't it ? I'll only help you in your quest if you do my bidding. "

The only thing close is that Anakin did lose himself in the process, he ended up wanting to overthrow Palpatine as soon as he learned how to prevent death, and become emperor himself.

So Kylo might be drunk on power too, but right now , which is with literally no backstory on Kylo's motivation, he is the definition of a pissbaby.

Vader never tried to kill the ones he loved. It was the point of the OT.

Comparing Kylo and Anakin on their actions is irrelevant if you don't take into considerations the motivations. They might act similar on some aspects but they are nothing alike mentally, as far as we know.

Right now, the only similarities are completely shallow.
 
I was wondering why they chose to go with the American accent for Finn but it actually suited him really well.

I am wondering if they were doing him a favor to get him Hollywood roles by showing he could do an American accent or if they thought that it would be a queue that he wasn't a bad guy/aristocrat, given Star Wars accent history.
 
"Anakin, remember when you dreamed your mother died, and she totes did, well now that you dreamed your wife, your last loved one, would die, it's gonna happen. So how about we try to pierce the secret of eternal life, you and me, since, you know, you and I are the most powerful force users in the entire history of the universe, we might be able to figure it out, there is no guarantee of course, but it's worth a shot isn't it ? I'll only help you in your quest if you do my bidding. "

The only thing close is that Anakin did lose himself in the process, he ended up wanting to overthrow Palpatine as soon as he learned how to prevent death, and become emperor himself.

So Kylo might be drunk on power too, but right now , which is with literally no backstory on Kylo's motivation, he is the definition of a pissbaby.

Vader never tried to kill the ones he loved. It was the point of the OT.

Comparing Kylo and Anakin on their actions is irrelevant if you don't take into considerations the motivations. They might act similar on some aspects but they are nothing alike mentally, as far as we know.

I notice you left out the "Now go kill a roomful of children" part.
 
Guys, the real sith didn't follow the rule of two bullshit. Episodes 10-12 will probably be the "Return of the Sith". Meaning the return of the sith race and their army of dark force users.

Would be a great way to have fights with a few jedi vs 10 or so sith wielding lightsabers. Not talking prequel levels of jedi of coarse.
 
The books that are NOW canon are: all the ones related to this movie (comics included).

Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Aftermath
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Lost Stars
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Moving Target
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Smugglers run
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - Weapon of a Jedi.
Journey to star wars: the force awakens - before The Awakening

And comics

Shattered Empire, Leia, Rebels, Starwars all from marvel.


And there are more books that aren't related to this that are also canon.
 
You guys gotta stop this is an awful awful photo and an awful idea.

thank you. This "OMG LET'S MAKE PURPLE LIGHTSABERS, LET'S MAKE LIGHTSABER'S EVEN COOLER" thing is what gave us the lightsaber barf moments of clone wars.

it's a Jedi's multi-tool. Jedi are guardians of peace, not highly trained shaolin fighters.

Besides, Rey is keeping her blaster. I'm much more intrigued by that.
Luke kinda stopped carrying a blaster after Empire.
 
I think it's logical to assume First Order Stormtroopers, specifically ones under Ren's command, were probably trained specifically to kill Luke Skywalker - hence the anti-lightsaber batons.

And I am convinced that FN-B4D455 would have done it. And would have turned down the parade, instead offering that budget to go towards the funerals for all of his friends killed by the traitor Finn.

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no. no no no. seeing THE lightsaber, the one that started it all, for the first time chronologically since Luke had his hand cut off. That was amazing.

Thats something I still dont understand. What sword is that? The one where he lost his hand?!

How did they get it back? The green sword was actually build by Luke, so it would be chronologically more correct, right?
 
WHOA.

honestly, i've never played KOTOR, but that twist is like ... that'd be a huge fuckin twist.
Sending away Rey not to protect HER but to protect others from her. whoa.

edit: oh right, she was like, elementary school age. The flashback to her killing the other kids would be comical. Nah, nvm that twist. Please don't make her Tom Riddle!


uhm, well, why would she be constantly wearing her armor and not a grey suit and some sort of imperial cap. She's certainly someone who'll be part of the action.

Da Fuck!?

Listen to me, go download and play that game NOW! It's easily the best SW story ever told outside of the actual OT movies. Get on that shit.
 
I am wondering if they were doing him a favor to get him Hollywood roles by showing he could do an American accent or if they thought that it would be a queue that he wasn't a bad guy/aristocrat, given Star Wars accent history.

American accents work better on Stormtroopers, ever since they were voiced with American accents in the OT
 
OK, don't kill me, but I just remembered something about the new movie that fell short when compared to the prequels: the music.
There were times when the old tunes hit and it got real emotional, but right now I feel there weren't a lot of memorable new tunes.
At least the prequels had the Duel of Fates, that march, and heck, even one of the worst romances in cinema history had a good theme song.

Edit: I haven't listened to the OST yet, so my opinion may change with that.
 
Palpatine "Kill Mace Windu"

Anakin "Ahhhh.... ahhh... I really shouldn't ahhhhh"

Palpatine "now go kill a room full of defenceless children"

Anakin "you got it fam"
 
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