[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens - It's True. All of it.
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I take it this thread already went through Max Landis' Thoughts on Rey (and why she's a Mary Sue)?
CassidyIzABeast
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Snoke: Kylo its time to complete your training. Go kill your mother.
I don't agree though. That was the point of my post: that it was explained, fairly straight forwardly, in the opening.
I was thinking that as well.
Luke should go mental if his sister gets offed.
And flirts with the dark side.
In the EU (that has been made non-canon)? Sure. In K
OTOR you play as Darth Revan who has fallen to the dark side when facing a sith emperor , but was captured and had his memories wiped by the Jedi in hope that he won't fall again.
It just seemed that way because Ford was the only one willing to try and rise above Lucas' scripts and this was painfully obvious in the PT when he wasn't there. I think you're just confusing the combination of competent writing, directing and acting (leading to actual chemistry between the characters) for everyone being a little bit of Han.
Scientist Supreme!
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Ok.
Boss Doggie
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No I mean the hologram makes Snoke bigger than his actual size.
Oh, my bad.
TheKaeptain
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No one should ever talk about him ever.
brandonh83
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Not sure what else there is to know about it on a basic level. Also if people are interested in more of how things have been going in that regard between trilogies I'm fairly positive it'll be fleshed out more in New EU materials. But movie wise there's not much else to say about it.
Discotheque
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what in the fuck is a MARY SUE?!
They could have easily solved this by having the opening crawl start with "Cold War!". Then you're good to go. But in the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that important.
lol, I was just about to say. Why does anyone ever care about what Max Landis thinks? Can't understand why this guy's tweets and ramblings get so much attention.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Well, a good example, is a poorly written Batman
A female character that isn't a damsel in distress.
Han said he was training new jedi. Call it an academy or not I think he had some trainees around.
CoffeeJanitor
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So much better than expected
May be my favorite
Lead girl and guy were amazing
May be my favorite
Lead girl and guy were amazing
Lord of Castamere
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Thought as much, but this and DS 3.0 were rushed as fuck.
broncobuster
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Wesley from Star Trek The Next Generation.
female character with zero flaws/challenge basically
The planets destroyed by Starkiller were called the Hosnian system. So I'd guess the Coruscant-looking one was Hosnia.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I would really hope he's an evil Yoda.
BruceLeeRoy
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I think that's spot on. The genuine chemistry between the Charachters is what made the movie such a success.
Also best moment of the whole movie as far as reveals go was when Rey diverts to the right and we get our first shot of the Millennium Falcon. My body demanded I cry out in happy surprise
brandonh83
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So what's wrong here, haven't people been whining about this sort of thing where female characters are almost always in need of help or something?
Shrennin
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As it turns out, JJ was the perfect director to take the mantle as he is absolutely fantastic in taking old, established franchises and giving them new life. He gave us and this new generation a unique take on A New Hope that can go just about anywhere. I think The Force Awakens works as a reboot, remake, and sequel that allows Disney to take the baggage of the franchise and twist it all into something quite possibly even better than the OT.
I hope Rey's story is an important one (I hope her parents factor in) BUT I hope she isn't related to the main cast. There are other force users out there besides Skywalkers and Kenobis. I think linking Rey or her parents to the failed academy that Luke tried to start should be the only connection, if there has to be one tied to the original cast.
Cloud Strife
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Going through the OST now, any stand-outs?
I'm really digging Rey's theme.
I'm really digging Rey's theme.
I thought that too, a big Republic planet.
Messypandas
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Only the bottom one moved.
gutter_trash
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that is the other thing that peeved me with this movie. JJ made news planets that look too closely to old familiar planets
I was one of many who was confused of seeing a City planet get destroyed, I seriously thought it was Coruscant
I thought that the planet that the Resistance was one, was Yavin, but it was not Yavin
DarkHeartedKill
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That was my first guess to who she was when she started being all badass.
The part with Finn going "We'll use the force!" and Han being like "That's not how it works!" made me laugh a lot.
Also, is it just me or was BB-8 like R2D2 2.0? I loved the little fella, his sad noises though especially when he thought his master died </3.
I didn't really like the actor for Kylo, didn't really feel it. I was pretty disappointed when he took of his helmet.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
lol no
regardless of gender, a character suddenly doing awesome things and is never wrong can feel off
with that said Rey isn't veering to that, yet
nah the guy's joshing
Again, a poorly-written/wish fulfillment Batman is an example of a Mary Sue
Han used the very same Saber to cut open the Tauntaun on Hoth.
Me three, but apparenty some people think BB8 was giving the thumbs up. That just seems so odd to me given how he doesn't trust Finn at all.
The vast majority of people I spoke to at work about it also thought BB8 was giving Finn the finger, which I think is what really makes it work because the lighter doubles up as a threat.
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Doesn't mean that had light sabers.
No but I think Ren might be related to them.
Unless they had a secret daughter they never knew about.
Jest Chillin
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A Mary or Gary Stu is a character that is a Self-Insert Fantasy fulfillment of the Author. Typically someone who is good at everything they do, never loses, and is completely loved and adored by everyone. Basically a perfect character that never makes mistakes.
It's common for YA Books to have Mary/Gary Stu's as they allow the teen readers to imagine themselves as the leads.
It's not just a female character. Goku is a mary sue.
orthodoxy1095
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This isn't quite perfect, but damn if it isn't really good. That'd be pretty neat for Guinness!
Wrong.
Nah, pringles is just making a disingenuous comment. You can create a female character that isn't a damsel in distress without making her a Mary Sue. You can also create a powerful male without making a Gary Stu.
BruceLeeRoy
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