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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Omegasquash
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It performed a dual role of showing that he is, in fact, physically and mentally strong enough to handle pain that might drop lots of people, as well as communicating, yet again, that he wants it. He's trying to use anger to connect with the Force.
Just watched the movie.
So... is Kylo Ren dead? Movie didn't leave much time between him losing the battle and the planet blowing up.
He was a great villain... but getting Darth Mauled is just lame.
Also... pretty cool movie... but damn if they didn't stick to by the numbers Star Wars.
A lot of deja vu between A New Hope/Return of the Jedi and this one.
I hope the next 2 movies get away from death stars, star killers and other such shenanigans. We can only watch big planet weapons go around destroying and getting destroyed so many times in one series.
I guess they erred on the side of caution - people want Star Wars... and that kinda includes the same story beats in many instances.
They probably could've done a better job on the plot direction... but they also could've done a lot worse.
Still fun enough to make me invest in the characters and definetly want to see where it's going next.
So... is Kylo Ren dead? Movie didn't leave much time between him losing the battle and the planet blowing up.
He was a great villain... but getting Darth Mauled is just lame.
Also... pretty cool movie... but damn if they didn't stick to by the numbers Star Wars.
A lot of deja vu between A New Hope/Return of the Jedi and this one.
I hope the next 2 movies get away from death stars, star killers and other such shenanigans. We can only watch big planet weapons go around destroying and getting destroyed so many times in one series.
I guess they erred on the side of caution - people want Star Wars... and that kinda includes the same story beats in many instances.
They probably could've done a better job on the plot direction... but they also could've done a lot worse.
Still fun enough to make me invest in the characters and definetly want to see where it's going next.
Shuggananas
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I was 9 when I saw TPM
I was like "the fuck is that shit ? Taxation of what ? Is that the right movie we're watching ?"
Inferno313
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No. Adam Driver has been signed for all 3 films. You see Snoke telling Hux to get Kylo and gtfo, and we're meant to believe he succeeded there.
Ragnorok64
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Nice. Though, when did she wear that outfit?Well there's this
Also I was right to avoid the toys aisle these last few months.
There's absolutely no way he's dead.
Woke up feeling better about the movie than I did yesterday. Not that I hated it or anything, but the good stuff has bubbled to the surface more than the bad. I still can't get over how much I enjoyed Finn and his interactions with the rest of the cast. Even Ford exceeded my expectations.
I have good feelings about where they can go with Rey from here. Now that the series has dumped some necessary baggage from the original trilogy, I really hope they can pull out some knock-out stuff in the sequels. I'm also excited to see what Rian Johnson brings to the table.
I have good feelings about where they can go with Rey from here. Now that the series has dumped some necessary baggage from the original trilogy, I really hope they can pull out some knock-out stuff in the sequels. I'm also excited to see what Rian Johnson brings to the table.
Interfectum
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Um, no?
Future PhaZe
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pink or purple imo
Admiral Woofington
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If she is Luke's daughter then I'd be fine with it. But if R2 is gonna leave the family he's stuck with for so long because she's his new padawan then I'll be sad because they could get her a different sassy Droid.
DrROBschiz
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Well i would have framed it as not being her fault but as an accidental end result of a dispute between Ben and Luke about how to control and direct her power
Ragnorok64
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Finn should get purple. Keep the legacy alive.
WadiumArcadium
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At the end when she flies off in the Falcon and climbs the steps.
LookAtMeGo
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I was just thinking. How the hell does someone named Ben Solo/Skywalker end up the bad guy? Thats some bad luck right there.
Luke done fucked it all up.
Luke done fucked it all up.
ProudCanuck
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Kylo Ren didnt fall. It is clearly implied he leaves the planet with the ship's commander to get the final training by Snoke
Croatoan
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That is what she wore at the very end.
Probaly at the last part when she went to find luke.
FlashbladeGAF
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What are you talking about?
He went with Rey because she was going straight to Luke!
His master.
He would have gone with her, but he couldn't climb the steps. You could see how anxious he was to be reunited with Luke again when she looked back at the Millennium Falcon.
TalesFromHoth
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Yup, I'm really hoping she wields a saberstaff (it's almost obvious, but you never know)
DrROBschiz
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Thats what bugs me most. We need a legitimate path from one end of the spectrum to he other but they seem to be keeping it simple
Daddy issues to grandfather obsession and power hungry desires
I personally find it lame but its fine for this medium and story
That's pretty insightful... but a lot of dialogue is re-recorded in post due to volume and noise issues with the original filming in pretty much all movies.
What you'd want to do is find work as a sound engineer and find a way to add the acoustic qualities of the scene into the sound mix of post recorded dialogue. Probably some sort of physics based sound modelling in a materially modelled virtual set of the scene.
Everyone is complaining that Rey is some sort of Marty McFly or something and all I can think about after watching the movie some nights ago is that Rey's past is going to clear up all these questions. I'm certain she was previously trained but it was locked away from her after being dumped on Jakku. That's why I'm not trying to speculate too much and am excited for the next two movies.
dragonyeuw
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No, Snooke mentions in the end about completing Kylo's training. It's fair to say he'll come back in VIII full trained and more bad-ass. I guess the way it will work, his training will coincide with Ren being trained by Luke, for an epic confrontation in IX, the training will allow glimpses into each character the way Luke's training on Dagobah did.
Croatoan
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I don't understand your problem. Luke is R2s family. Rey left to go to Luke. R2 knew they were going to Luke, ergo R2 left to be reunited with Luke.
Rey was just R2D2's ride to Luke.
Skellig Gra
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You act like thats a big stretch. The planet blew up seconds after Chewie picked up Rey and Finn. We never see Kylo getting picked up. Makes it even more ridiculous if Phasma survives.
I think the real fuckup is giving a character an alias with "Ren" in it and giving him the true-name "Ben".
Not to mention having a third, opposite-faction character called "Rey".
That is just all kinds of confusing shit. This thread has left me spinning a couple of times. In confusion.
Ah yeah... the holographic snoke putting the order to bring Kylo to him after the fight.
1. Rey and Kylo Ren are brother and sister (Rey is Leia's daughter). Borrowed from Jacen and Jaina in the EU. Jacen turns sith and Jaina has to take him out.
2. Rey is Luke's daughter hidden from birth on a desert planet again as a kind of last resort since Luke rolled out Yoda style.
3. The Force just "Awakened" in her as the new Chosen One to maintain the balance.
At the moment I'm leaning towards #1 just because of my EU fandom and Star Wars loves to create family drama which now shifts to the Solo family since Han is dead.
2. Rey is Luke's daughter hidden from birth on a desert planet again as a kind of last resort since Luke rolled out Yoda style.
3. The Force just "Awakened" in her as the new Chosen One to maintain the balance.
At the moment I'm leaning towards #1 just because of my EU fandom and Star Wars loves to create family drama which now shifts to the Solo family since Han is dead.
You missed the conversation Snoke had with the commander to bring Ren to him to complete his training?
Ragnorok64
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I'm gonna have to buy a couple figures to recreate the duel.
Also I just realized that that fight destroyed Poe/Finn's jacket. That's a true loss.
D1renegade
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Guys, I was playing Disney Infinity 3.0 as Finn and I was able to open a Jedi Holocron with him.. That means he's Jedi.
Ok bye
Ok bye
Admiral Woofington
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A guy in the last page said that he's reys new companion.
You know for the sake of the new characters please keep the old cast as minimal as necessary. Keep Chewie around as her permanent companion and like that defeats the purpose of her meeting up with Finn or having a proper chat with Poe.
Lights and Waves
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I want VIII to start with Han's funeral and Leia sending Finn and Poe off on the next mission. BB-8 will accompany them. So the film follows two teams:
Finn, Poe and BB-8
Rey, Chewie, and R2
and then Leia and C3PO pulling the strings.
Perfect Cha0s
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I'm sure they will elaborate on his fall. We have 30 years of history untapped into and we have two movies to go in this trilogy.
Skellig Gra
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No, I didn't miss it. But that doesn't change the fact its completely impossible he survived based on the sequence of events if we are trying to apply any sort of logic here.
I really hope Finn ends up being force sensitive. I think he will end up being so in the end. If he isn't I wonder why Maz showed such interest in him and gave him the light saber to fight with? She lives in a pirate castle! I am sure she would have had a more appropriate weapon for an ex storm trooper. Also the movie contradicts the books a little bit. Wasn't Finn the top of his class in the First Order? How the hel did he end up in sanitation?
hell, Vader was completely one dimensional in 'A New Hope' it's only in Empires that he is more then just the big baddie and his relationships with the emperor and Luke are fleshed out.
JetBlackPanda
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That could be interesting, possibly removing her so he could try and make her his apprentice later.
Luke thinks she is dead.
Admiral Woofington
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Top of his poop scooping class. As to the lightsaber she gave it to him so he'd bring it to Rey and it happens to be a weapon too
FlashbladeGAF
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What are you talking about.
Phasma didn't just sit on her ass when Fin, Rey, Chewie and Han traveled from the main base to the reactor/planet weak spot. So much time passed since they dropped her in the garbage. They had to run, plant the bombs throughout the whole area, talk to Ben Solo, Fight Ben Solo, wait for Poe to do his pilot thing, while Chewie picks up Rey and Fin.
And Rey had to run back to Fin after the ground split open. When she ran off, I doubt Ben sat on the ground making snow angels.
ProudCanuck
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Is Lor San Tekka a person with the Force? Maybe he took Ren (same planet) and protected her ? Is he allied with Skywalker? I remember Kylo Ren meeting him and saying he had become old since the last time they met. Could he have trained been supporting Rey through skywalker? He could be literally like Ben Kenobi like hermit from the new hope
Glad I'm not the only one who had that reaction after he said that.
Completely impossible? Lol.
More_Badass
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Shame this character was cut. The design is cool
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