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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Admiral Woofington
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The obi Wan theory is really stretching it. Like at that point why not make it "Rey is actually the love child of the king of space and a sand worm from dune"
I know. But all you've said can be fixed in post. It should be fixed in post. And considering no one else seems to have noticed/been bothered by it, I assumed my theater had faulty sound mixing, or speakers.
The whole reason I brought it up was to see if anyone else noticed. Vaders dialog had ambience, if we take a more recent release, Iron Man's voice has ambience when he's in the suit, both probably reworked in post.
Kylo Ren just sounded off (to me) with the mask. So again, either they missed something in post, or my theater had messed up, or I'm just weird in thinking it sounded wrong.
That's the actors age right? Not necessarily Kylo Ren's. I thought Kylo was supposed to be in his early 20's.
Dreams-Visions
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indeed! one of my enduring salty memories of the prequels is how ridiculous and CG the light saber duels are. Cheezy and lazy. They stood in stark contrast to the OT saber duels, which were largely underwhelming but did not require the suspension of disbelief in order to accept. The OT duels will largely be remembered as acceptable and will wear decently over time. The Prequel duels will wear more and more poorly as they age. A real shame, but par for the course for those awful films.
The saber duels in TFA stand head and shoulders over all duels that have come before in choreography, visual FX and approach. They felt like real fights. They looked amazing (smoke coming from burn holes in chests, snow steaming from sabers pushed into the snow). It took 7 movies, but they finally got saber duels perfect.
kitschbeam
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Why would Courscant be over run when it was still the Empire's capital, I think in the new canon they even say palatine put his office in the Jedi temple.
hmmm If Luke is on that Jedi planet, I wonder if Snoke is on Morraband.
blackseedboy
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I am down with this.
LegendofLex
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On the subject of the map:
Was anyone else really...disappointed by that whole plotline, once the map was finally shown? Are we supposed to think that there's a chunk of the known universe for which all charts just vanished and this happens to be the only one? How was it that the Resistance wasn't able to place BB-8's piece of the map in known space? Is the complete map supposed to be the whole galaxy, or just a specific cluster of systems that aren't charted? (The map itself looks like a galaxy map, and the chunk that's missing is conspicuously large.)
Was anyone else really...disappointed by that whole plotline, once the map was finally shown? Are we supposed to think that there's a chunk of the known universe for which all charts just vanished and this happens to be the only one? How was it that the Resistance wasn't able to place BB-8's piece of the map in known space? Is the complete map supposed to be the whole galaxy, or just a specific cluster of systems that aren't charted? (The map itself looks like a galaxy map, and the chunk that's missing is conspicuously large.)
I also thought it was weak. Maybe correct in that it was what someone was going for but it was still weak.
Sectorseven
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Sounds like a stretch to me. This takes place 30 years after ROJ. Did Leia immediately get knocked up after that film? Seems like she'd be really occupied with taking down imperial remnants and building the new republic.
Duane Cunningham
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Well, I kind of love/hate the prequels, but the fact is, there's VERY little presence of anything prequel related in there. I mean, there weren't even alien species that were introduced in the prequels. I don't get what having a Dug or something in Maz's place would have hurt. Or a rustly old battle droid somewhere or something.
But anyway, that's all beside the point. I'd love to see some of the more iconic imagery from the PT and how it lands in the Sequel Trilogy era. There was that joke about JJ working in Jar Jar's skull, but actually, it's kind of what I'd like to see a bit of on a grander scale. The "skull" of the Senate House or a look at Naboo or something, and have the results be surprising.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Yeah, it was odd.
This is the official star wars map
Theres no way they wouldn't be able to tell with the missing chunk being as big as it was
I'm actually going to disagree. The biggest complaints I've heard from younger fans (ie, people who didn't see the OT in theaters) are about how terrible the saber fights are in RotJ/ESB.
By contrast, people still love the prequel trilogy saber fights, and they're a lot more fun. Seeing them at the Marathon over the weekend, the audience was freaking riveted during the Maul fight and the Obi-Anakin fight.
alvin and the chimpunks also being there puts this into the 'holy shit' realm
Of course they did
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Star Wars is set in one galaxy, not the whole universe.
A galaxy has billions of stars.
They had NO map at all to tell them where Luke was until BB8 showed up. Turned out it was incomplete, not enough info to know where it was. R2 had a bigger one with that chunk missing.
Yeah I don't buy into this. R2 had the map yeah but he also had the convenient dotted yellow line showing Luke's route and location (with the middle missing). So how did he get the map with yellow line on it if he downloaded it from the Death Star?
LegendofLex
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Yeah.
I'm holding the idea that it's really just supposed to be a small cluster within the galaxy as my personal headcanon, because otherwise the whole scenario is unbelievable.
I said "known universe" for a reason.
The final map we see appears to be a full galaxy map, with a conspicuously large chunk missing that BB-8 has. Are we really supposed to believe that no one was able to map that chunk to what they knew about that region of space, something we can already do with current technology? Or, alternatively, that no one in the galaxy knows enough about that region of space to match up known stars?
m_shortpants
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Can Rey just be a random force sensitive person? Like Anakin?
I guess the Chekhov's Gun of her being abandoned won't let that happen, but eh. I don't think everyone needs to be related lol. We already got the grandson of Vader in here.
I guess the Chekhov's Gun of her being abandoned won't let that happen, but eh. I don't think everyone needs to be related lol. We already got the grandson of Vader in here.
This is perfect lol.
It's like the baby boomers. I'm sure a lot of kids were born soon after the fall of the empire.
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I can't find it now, but was skimming back some pages. And someone said that the 29age thing is directly from Lucas film.
Either way, I love the base and empire being run by insecure overeager pouty-faces.
Either way, I love the base and empire being run by insecure overeager pouty-faces.
The One Who Knocks
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I really hope this happens. While I'm quite confident that Rey is Luke's daughter, I think given that Luke's dilemma in the original trilogy revolves around him being tempted by the dark side and ultimately accepting the light side (but also accepting his emotional state), and Rey has drawn upon power from the dark side in The Force Awakens while Ren also wishes to shun the light, the idea of balancing the force, and the interest in the first Jedi Temple (which should, one would think, also bring us some knowledge or exploration of the Ancient Sith), it doesn't seem out of the question that there will be possibility of accepting both sides, and drawing from both aspects of the force to become a balanced individual will come into play. As a previous poster mentioned, it does muddle the simple tale of 'dark side is bad, light side is good' that the cinematic universe has going for it (but again, almost anything else is somewhat more complicated than 'blue is good, red is bad; the end'), but it would be an interesting place to take the new trilogy and be a breath of fresh air in the cinematic universe.
The android port is also really good...kotor2 was actually updated on steam recently with support for wide-screen and missing quests
VistraNorrez
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That doesn't make it a Death Star. The Trade Federation ship was not some super powerful weapon. It's more analogous to the shield base on Endor. TPM actually reverses the RotJ dynamic of the thing on a planet needs to be destroyed to win the war in space. TPM has it so the thing in space needs to be destroyed to win the battle on the planet. It rhymes, it's poetry.
Admiral Woofington
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Every movie has starred a Skywalker with others on the side. Changing that would be quite the deviation.
thecouncil
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Pod racing engines in the background on jakku, "sith", mention of clone army, ewan mcgregor's voice. There was a lot of prequel stuff. People like to pretend there wasn't though and I guess that's fine too.
Not really surprising. By the time of The Force Awakens, even people like Luke Skywalker are considered myths. With all the misinformation the Empire spreads during the OT time, no wonder the events of the PT are forgotten.
Since I like the PT it would be interesting to see more elements here and there, but it actually doesn't piss me off for them to keep going forward. If no prequel elements are added, I would be fine with that.
They were fantastic. The only one that was terrible was Anakin VS Dooku in Ep. II.
Over choreographed to the point where people are doing flips/twirls/unnecessary movement that would get them killed by any opponent that had a fragment of common sense.
LookAtMeGo
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Thats amazing.
VincentMatts
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i know, i dont get it. He'll never be done with it though, hes Han Solo. They make a han Solo Movie with a younger actor, theyll still just ask him another million questions.
Anywho, im glad chewie is with rey now. I hope he sticks around.
B-B-Bomba!
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Always two, there are.
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nicoga3000
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I'm glad Han died. His general attitude to this movie has felt so disconnected. It bums me out.
Seeing it again on Sunday at the 70mm IMAX. Really excited. I don't really have any gripes with the movie now that it's sunk in. I am more excited than ever to learn more about these new characters, their history, and hopefully what all transpired between VI and VII.
Serious question - everyone keeps saying this was just a remake of ANH. Can someone explain? I didn't really get that vibe at all.
LAUGHTREY
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It's over the top garbage fighting for the sake of fighting. Every other lightsaber duel before then wasn't about the fighting, it was the internalization of the characters.
Darth Maul had a double bladed lightsaber, that was his character. There was no motivation or conflict between him and the two jedi other than he was a bad guy that wanted to get them.
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Didn't they mention the clone army in a new hope?
JetBlackPanda
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There were very few "old" aliens period. I saw Ackbar and Nien Nunb and I think every other alien I saw was a new, never before seen race. I wish they'd taken this approach to starships too.
As far as prequel stuff, we have Ewan, a very overt reference to clones, podracer flags at Maz's and we've got Rey riding around on what looks like a souped up podracer engine. You don't need much more than that, really. Don't sweep it under the rug, but don't draw a ton of attention to prequel stuff unless it ties into the story.
CloudyTuba
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The endor after-party was pretty wild.
I didn't really understand the map either. If you have the galactic map, at least you know what general section to start looking. If you have the smaller map, then all you have to do is compare it to a map of the galaxy.
At best I can understand not finding him with the galactic map. Galaxies are huge and with that large a chunk missing, knowing he's in that chunk isnt going to help much. You still have thousands and thousands of stars to sort through. It's probably a lost cause to even try, even with their advanced tech.
But if you have the little piece: That still looked like a sizable chunk of the galaxy. You should be able to easily place it.
I guess the issue was not so much that the two halves needed to go together, but that the Resistance only had the useless half of it. But the movie made it seem like they really needed both.
But it looks good
Don't bother. When it comes to the PT, people are weirdly obssessed with realism and "practical stuff".
LegendofDragoonLives
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I'm hoping Finn learns how to use a freaking lightsaber, he got bodied by Kylo. I'd like to also see Kylo turn into a Sith by the next movie.
Poe's and Finn's bromance is fire though! <3
thecouncil
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Didn't they mention the clone army in a new hope?
They mention "Clone Wars" but that's about it. I don't think they referred to the meaning of that.
OricWindstar
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For me, it was that they focused more on the choreography of things than furthering character development. Episode I's duel did this with Qui-Gon's death and Obi-Wan's reaction, but the rest spent way to much with twirls and flips and not enough focusing on the characters.
lol, what an awful analogy
Exactly. It looked like rehearsed fight that focuses on being of flashy instead of a real fight that just happened. The fight between Vader and Luke in ROTJ was and is still awesome.
It also makes it incoherent with the OT, which looks more like knights would fight compared to the ninjas in PT.
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