[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Spiritreaver
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I'm in love.
The Resistance is basically the Republic CIA.
brandonh83
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Those are... pretty easy to understand, not problems, not to me anyway. I don't really want to get into it though or off topic too bad.
BigJonsson
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What was the Republic fleet doing? Shouldn't THEY be the Resistance to the First Order?
The IMAX I saw was pretty good. Especially the flying sections and the dog fights.
Rabbit Lord
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Just got back from watching the film so I can finally enter this thread.
Couple thoughts that I'm sure have already been beaten to death.
R2-D2 waking up and having the other part of the map..uh..did I miss something? That's really my only big gripe though, Rey being halfway decent with a sabre/force right off the bat is a little bothersome..
I loved the shock trooper or whatever he was that fought with Finn, but why not use Phasma in that scene?
Han and Chewy were great, Han's death was good and served to further build on Ren as a serious baddy. Interested in Snoke, what's his deal? Hopefully we see more of him in future films.
Rey and Finn were tremendous, great casting and great characters.
JJ played it safe which is understandable, moving forward I hope they step out of the shadow of the OT just a little. However I am glad the aesthetic style of the PT was kept away.
Couple thoughts that I'm sure have already been beaten to death.
R2-D2 waking up and having the other part of the map..uh..did I miss something? That's really my only big gripe though, Rey being halfway decent with a sabre/force right off the bat is a little bothersome..
I loved the shock trooper or whatever he was that fought with Finn, but why not use Phasma in that scene?
Han and Chewy were great, Han's death was good and served to further build on Ren as a serious baddy. Interested in Snoke, what's his deal? Hopefully we see more of him in future films.
Rey and Finn were tremendous, great casting and great characters.
JJ played it safe which is understandable, moving forward I hope they step out of the shadow of the OT just a little. However I am glad the aesthetic style of the PT was kept away.
Trigonometrize.
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I was so confused as to why they were named The Resistance. Makes it sound like they're still fighting the empire when they're really just a military.
Kor of Memory
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The pictures of Snoke from the art book make me think he really needed to be done with practical effects.
I can't NOT see "stroke victim" every time someone posts this picture.
I like this design more than the final (the one on the left). And the description, which imo doesn't really suit what they ended up with.The pictures of Snoke from the art book make me think he really needed to be done with practical effects.
Film version wasn't bad though.
Arkos
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Did you get the one scene where the Star Destroyer is flying at your face lol
Admiral Woofington
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YEAH YEAH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
SABOTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE
*ACTION SETPIECE*
I CANT STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND IT
Earlier in this or the first thread, I jumped also on this story line. That would make Snoke so much better.
Definitely, I wanted to reach out to touch it.
Edit: the Millennium Falcon loop was also nice.
DrForester
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Really night and day with the Prequels. Everyone involved in TFA seems like they had a blast and are loving it. Everything for the prequels felt like they didn't.
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brandonh83
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Snoke should NOT be cartoonish CG going forward. BIG mistake if they really want him to be scary or feel Hammer horror-ish. Hopefully the meh CG is reserved to just the hologram. The last thing I want here is a bad looking CG villain especially after them busting a nut over how they're going back to practical.
I never ever get that vibe from Driver though.
CloudyTuba
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In the art-of book for TFA there is actually art depicting this. It's an idea they toyed with earlier on that could still be reused in the future.
Anakin's ghost was constantly shifting between the light and the dark. At one moment looking like Anakin (PT Anakin rather than Sebastian Anakin) before what looked like metal and wire crept across his face and suddenly taking on the visage of Vader. He exists as both simultaneously.
Real neat idea and I'm for it.
WadiumArcadium
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After Mon Mothma formed the New Republic and they signed the Galactic Concordance with what was left of the Empire, they reduced the size of their military by 90%. The Republic didn't want another galactic civil war.
Holy shit. I'm actually against Force Ghosts appearing here but... Damn, that sounds pretty cool.
Spiritreaver
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Do you have ANY fun?
The Republic fleet was at the planet that got blown to bits
ReadingRambo
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Driver is a pretty reserved guy. He's been through a bit more in his life than your average hollywood dude.
brandonh83
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Yeah this is probably my favorite episode, but that was a misfire. I don't hate it but it could have been handled much better. I'm reserving judgment for how he's portrayed in the next ones.
Dash_Riprock
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Its amazing the what a difference it makes when you have a director who can actually direct and says more than just "faster, more intense" while reading a newspaper.
Interesting. Where does that info come from?
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WadiumArcadium
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Mixture of the novel Aftermath and the visual dictionary for the film.
Yeah sometimes i forget he was USMC too
Trigonometrize.
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Crack ships are fun for about two seconds. This is coming from a Yuru Yuri fan.
DrForester
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The entire fleet was in that one system? And at the planets that blown up? In the entire galaxy?
I mean, Star Trek does the stupid stuff two where the entire fleet is either destroyed or not available, but it doesn't make it any less stupid.
Neat. I will check them out.
Frustrated_me
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Confession.
I like every star wars movies, I don't even get the hate for the prequels - nor do I care about the hate. To me, star wars is star wars. It can't be bad, its just one of those things I enjoy no matter what.
Having said that, I know some movies are better than others, but still, I just take all of them for what they are and get lost in them. They're fun and adventurous.
I like every star wars movies, I don't even get the hate for the prequels - nor do I care about the hate. To me, star wars is star wars. It can't be bad, its just one of those things I enjoy no matter what.
Having said that, I know some movies are better than others, but still, I just take all of them for what they are and get lost in them. They're fun and adventurous.
Kor of Memory
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For those upset over the "Plot holes" of TFA needs to be reminded of what a plot hole is.
A good example of a plot hole is how Anakin became a force ghost.
We're told that Yoda has made contact with Qui-Gon in Episode III about a way to communicate post-death. It's heavily implied that this is an ability that needs to be taught. Obviously Obi-wan learned this, and somehow Yoda picked this up, too.
The Plot hole comes from how Vader learned how to do this. Either he discovered it himself, or was taught by someone else (Sheev is the only real option here). And if Sheev taught it, then obviously Sheev knows it.
Either way, it's left wide open, and sort of contradicts itself.
THAT is a plot hole.
A good example of a plot hole is how Anakin became a force ghost.
We're told that Yoda has made contact with Qui-Gon in Episode III about a way to communicate post-death. It's heavily implied that this is an ability that needs to be taught. Obviously Obi-wan learned this, and somehow Yoda picked this up, too.
The Plot hole comes from how Vader learned how to do this. Either he discovered it himself, or was taught by someone else (Sheev is the only real option here). And if Sheev taught it, then obviously Sheev knows it.
Either way, it's left wide open, and sort of contradicts itself.
THAT is a plot hole.
Well, the majority of the fleet was, is what I think they said.
You are like me. I enjoy all 7 movies, no exception. Don't get the hate get to you. Don't jump into the bandwagon.
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Arkos
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People are going to have to take a more laid back approach going forward to films under the Star Wars umbrella, there are going to be so many that some will not be good, some will be good but they will dislike, especially when they are playing around with genres and tones that are not traditionally what we expect.
WadiumArcadium
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I'm the same. There's a few bits I like less than others but it's all one thing to me. I'm all about those wars in the stars.
The Resistance aren't really a "military". They don't have any capital ships. They're wildly out-classed and out-resourced by the First Order.
The whole First Order, Republic, Resistance thing is really poorly rendered. Here's the basic sketch (which basically isn't in the movie): the Republic establishes after the war (which doesn't end when the Emperor dies but drags on a bit; Jakku was the field of a post-Endor battle). The First Order emerges from the Empire's loyal and flees to Outer Rim areas which had never been under Republic or Empire control. The Republic leadership is concerned about rebuilding the Republic after the war, establishes some treaty with the First Order. The Republic has a fleet but wants to demilitarize (or at least ratchet down). Leia thinks this is fucked and establishes the Resitance to check the First Order; the Republic tacitly endorses or outright supports or at least tolerates Leia doing this. The Resitance proceeds to basically be entirely ineffectual for like twenty years, lol. So the Order blasts the Republic fleet leaving only the ragtag Resitance, which is more counter-intelligence than regular army in scope. The Restiance blasts Starkiller, which is obviously a major blow but it's unclear how much Order industrial capacity remains going forward.
I didn't read the novelization yet but that's the impression I got from people referring to it throughout these threads. Happy to be corrected.
Robot Pants
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Yea? Like what?
It's a pretty jarring one considering lore establishes Sith as not even believing in an afterlife.
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