[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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According to things that aren't canon.
This is what I've been saying for days.
I kinda felt the same way, but I guess he was pretty injured and not in a normal state of mind after the Han thing.
Here's the thing though - you can't get many good writers / directors to sign on to your series if you tell them that they don't really have any say in the big creative beats of the arc. I mean, Abrams and Kasdan basically rewrote Episode VII in less than a year. If you want the best of the best - you need to leave some big beats open for future writers / directors. It sounds like Rian is finished with Episode VIII and they are a good chunk of the way through Episode IX though.
Rey I'm sure; Finn I could see them leaving open to some extent.
Kylo got shot and was in distraught with what's happening or what had happened especially with Rey and the attack.
Obliterator
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That would be a pretty damn cool twist
Xamtheking
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Finn is going to get bitten by a radioactive spider and develop force powers
Actually though, I'd love to see Finn develop Dark Force Powers(because of his proximity to the Dark side of the Force) but use them for good
Actually though, I'd love to see Finn develop Dark Force Powers(because of his proximity to the Dark side of the Force) but use them for good
Doc Holliday
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We're there any references at all to the prequels?
Fair enough.
That's true. I think Rian Johnson is a good choice for these films. I'm glad he is also penning IX. Is the same cinematographer being used for all 3 films? Because that would calm some of my worries with Colin.
Minor at most
TheOctodad
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Nah, Kylo is still kind of a poser when it comes to being battle savvy. And Finn was top of his class.
To contradict something I said in an earlier post and cite EU, Sith, pre-Revan, gave themselves new names but didn't use the Darth title, so Ren changing his name when he became a dark jedi in such a manner fits that.
Obliterator
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I mean we know she has a connection to Luke. She knew where he was in her repressed memories. I'm pretty sure she's his daughter
Trigonometrize.
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I feel like the whole sense of the allure of the dark side would be diminished if you can get lightning bolt hands jsut because you hung out with them for a while.
Lost Fragment
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Didn't get spoiled beforehand, but as soon as Finn and Rey arrived on that balcony and Han yelled out to Kylo as he was walking on a long, ominous bridge across a dark, endless pit, I knew Han was about to die. That shit was telegraphed as fuck.
But that scene was so well-acted that even though Kylo mending his ways and going back with Han would've made no damn sense from a story building perspective, for a second I kinda believed that he might.
But that scene was so well-acted that even though Kylo mending his ways and going back with Han would've made no damn sense from a story building perspective, for a second I kinda believed that he might.
Part of me can't help but think the theories about Snoke possibly looking different in future films is just people in denial about his CGI being kind of "eh" in TFA.
I think the hologram effect (and the lighting) just made his digital appearance much more obvious than it otherwise would have been. For all we know, when we do finally see him in person we'll get Davy Jones level of ILM kick-assery and he'll look great.
I think the hologram effect (and the lighting) just made his digital appearance much more obvious than it otherwise would have been. For all we know, when we do finally see him in person we'll get Davy Jones level of ILM kick-assery and he'll look great.
friskykillface
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Ewan Mcgregor being in the film.
Maz Kanata mentioning Sith which I think was a thing the prequels started though I'm not sure.
Thats all I can think of.
Several. Clone Armies are mentioned, Anakins Pod Racer flag is at Maz Kanata's, Ewan McGregor had a voice over cameo as Obi-Wan, Maz Kanata lists the threats to the light in chronological order: The sith,the empire and now the first order.
The Shadow
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Since they established that he'd been fighting the light side, and seemingly made a final choice by offing Han, if honestly be really disappointed if he's magically redeemed at the very end. I'm with you on the ultimate bad guy route.
I think Rey addressing the Jedi as "I thought that was a myth" buys a lot of leeway with her mind control scene. She seems to be interested in the Jedi mythology enough to know what abilities they may have had.
I equate it with maybe something like vampires for us. Someone tells you that it's true, all of it, then later you run into a vampire. What do you do? Sunlight? Garlic? Wooden stake? You might try those things, and maybe it would work.
I equate it with maybe something like vampires for us. Someone tells you that it's true, all of it, then later you run into a vampire. What do you do? Sunlight? Garlic? Wooden stake? You might try those things, and maybe it would work.
Probably. The biggest thing will be is if Lucasfilm has their Kevin Feige; someone who kind of keeps the whole continuity shindig rolling or not. Kennedy is a strong candidate (look at her filmography, dear lord it is awesome movie after awesome movie) - but I don't know if being CEO of Lucasfilm means she won't be able to have the time to do that.
Also, I'm fine with Kylo being sort of scrubby against Finn and Rey; they spent a ton of time setting up that the Bowcaster is a bazooka; and he took a shot straight from it.
Lol no way are they going to pay for Ford again.
I've said this a thousand times already but the movie is full of subcommunication to the effect of her being Luke's. (desert planet, her outfit, the lightsaber in the snow..) it also has some less subtle references, like Maz seemingly discussing a lineage of Skywalkers that includes Rey.
Finally, Luke looks at her with recognition and heavy emotion at the end. He KNOWS who that is and it's not someone unimportant to him.
Sectorseven
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Kylo mentions the possibility of using a clone army.
Simpsons called it, btw
How in the fuck.
CloudyTuba
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Clones were mentioned when questioning the effectiveness of the First Order Stormtroopers. I think that's the biggest and most obvious one. And if theres going to be a prequel reference, the clone army is the best choice since The Clone Wars series is the best prequel media!
Ewan was apparently the voice of Obi during the saber vision. "Rey!"
I believe Sith were mentioned which was not used in the movies until the prequels.
Someone told me that podracer engines were visible somewhere in the background.
Obliterator
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Then why not go practical effects on him? He didn't look like something that needed to be CGI. When I first heard it was Andy Serkis I thought we were about to get something truly crazy looking
This thread is moving too quick and it's too long to look through - any good resources for collected fan theories?
On my second watch through I thought it might be neat if Rey had been the one who had betrayed Luke and killed the other students and then mind-wiped and left on Jakku. Probably not what happened though.
On my second watch through I thought it might be neat if Rey had been the one who had betrayed Luke and killed the other students and then mind-wiped and left on Jakku. Probably not what happened though.
Simpsons called it, btw
Holy shit
Obliterator
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Agreed 100%. There is tons of evidence she is Luke's daughter. Not sure she could be anyone else's really
Doc Holliday
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Shit I missed the Obi-wan cameo. When was that?
Sith were mention in the original novels first right?
PHOENIXZERO
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Too bad people will, if they're not already, that will complain about Rey being Luke's daughter as "too predictable" which I think is just a cynical way of looking at it. Not every thing has to be a "No, I am your father" sort of plot twist.
Luke is the only Jedi left, if he dies I don't think it's going to be until the next trilogy after this, especially if they intend of reforming the Jedi Order in some fashion. I think he needs to live until there's someone or several of them really prepared to take his place.
Besides that, I'd rather Luke go peacefully and not at peace while getting killed by a bad guy. He deserves it.
Luke is the only Jedi left, if he dies I don't think it's going to be until the next trilogy after this, especially if they intend of reforming the Jedi Order in some fashion. I think he needs to live until there's someone or several of them really prepared to take his place.
Besides that, I'd rather Luke go peacefully and not at peace while getting killed by a bad guy. He deserves it.
Wait I thought Kennedy was already the Feige of Lucasarts. I may not be getting what you're getting at here.
Wow you must of seen the movie because that is exactly how that bit ends. Defensive posturing using force prediction, thats how I read that anyway, its not normal people sword fighting here.
I agree that it got a bit ridiculous at times, still feel there is a happy medium that is yet to be found between the OT and the PT. One that keeps the emotion but also without a doubt shows that Jedi/Sith are a step above random Storm Troopers with batons.
Also though, why didn't they have Phasma replace baton trooper in that scene, would of even helped the final scene enhancing Finn's shit talking.
Trigonometrize.
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Was the emperor super amazing compelling by the end of Empire?
SargerusBR
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Rakata Prime is canon though since it is in the The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary, so its totally possible.
I just want KOTOR to become canon 
We don't know how many were left when Ren betrayed them. Maybe some escaped, maybe some just abandoned their training and aren't yet full-fledged Jedi.
I liked that the film felt more war-sy then the other Star Wars films. An entire planet blew up in the first movie and no one cares after 10 minutes, but this movie was a lot more brutal. People screamed while their planet was getting destroyed, stormtroopers have physical wounds, the lightsabers actually look incredibly threatening, etc.
No; Kennedy's the CEO of the whole freaking company. All aspects, TV, movies, books, licensing, etc. She's also in charge of Indiana Jones. She's Perlmutter before the Feige power play; and she's not crazy like Perlmutter is.
Lucas hired Kennedy to replace him as being in charge of everything Lucasfilm / ILM / etc.
Rakata Prime is canon though since it is in the The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary, so its totally possible.
I just want KOTOR to become canon
Revan does look familiar, doesn't he?
He is heard saying "These are your first steps" after Alec Guiness' Obi Wan call out "Rey!!"
"Dark Lord of the Sith" was Vaders title in the novels, but it was fleshed out in the prequels. Maz enlists the threats to peace in chronological order starting with the sith.
foxuzamaki
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I legit thought the helmet Rey put on was an Anakins helmet from phantom menace but then later in the film it hit me that it was a old rebels helmet and further remember that's she's on not-tattooine
GankzyMcfly
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They debate using clones over brainwashed stormtroopers
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