[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up

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Doing the direct comparison to Feige and the former Marvel Brain Trust (including people like Alan Fine, Brian Michael Bendis, Joe Quesada) highlights some interesting differences.

Kathleen Kennedy oversees a Story Group that includes

Kiri Hart
Pablo Hidalgo
Leland Chee
Carrie Beck
Diana Williams

Note there isn't a single white male on that list. Hell, there's only one white person (Carrie Beck) outside of Kennedy.

Hispanics can be white.
 
Just came back from another viewing.

Probably already mentioned...

After the Desert battle where Rey and Fin run up to congratulate each other, I thought she mentioned she had simulation training, but I couldn't make it out because the two were talking so fast and over each other. In my latest viewing, it now sounds like she she said she has flown before, but she's never left the atmosphere.

There's a visualization or some other book that claims she had simulation training so that would fit.
 
I could be totally wrong but modern day Carrie Fisher seems to have a voice that you can only get by smoking for many years. I don't think you get that sound naturally.

Patty and Selma are heavy smokers.
 
yeah she was clearly recalling memories that actually happened when she found luke's old lightsaber. So one thing is for sure Rey and Kylo definitely interacted during the jedi massacre.

And we know she somehow had a general sense of Luke's location. Anyone else pick up on a couple things from her vision? It happened super fast so I'm sure I missed stuff
 
Several. Clone Armies are mentioned, Anakins Pod Racer flag is at Maz Kanata's, Ewan McGregor had a voice over cameo as Obi-Wan, Maz Kanata lists the threats to the light in chronological order: The sith,the empire and now the first order.

Lor San Tekka referring to the balance of the Force is another one.

Probably. The biggest thing will be is if Lucasfilm has their Kevin Feige; someone who kind of keeps the whole continuity shindig rolling or not. Kennedy is a strong candidate (look at her filmography, dear lord it is awesome movie after awesome movie) - but I don't know if being CEO of Lucasfilm means she won't be able to have the time to do that.

Lucasfilm's equivalent to Feige is Kiri Hart.

Meet Disney’s ‘Star Wars’ Maestro, Kiri Hart

http://lucasfilm.com/our-team/kiri-hart
 
While that would make more sense, JJ already came out and said R2D2 woke up because of BB8 bumping into him and signaling something to him that eventually wakes him up.

Oh huh, no idea then

Any ideas how Maz got Luke's lightsaber? And if she has a lucky Luke hand to grant wishes as well.
 
And we know she somehow had a general sense of Luke's location. Anyone else pick up on a couple things from her vision? It happened super fast so I'm sure I missed stuff
the ship that dropped her off wasn't first order/empire. Looks more like a republic ship. I think am on the she is luke's child thing.
 
And we know she somehow had a general sense of Luke's location. Anyone else pick up on a couple things from her vision? It happened super fast so I'm sure I missed stuff

Definitely possible she was seeing a vision of where Luke was. In ESB when Luke was training with Yoda he saw a city in the clouds when he sensed Han and Leia were in trouble
 
Is she providing creative oversight on Rebels storylines ? No. Of course not. On Eps 8 and 9? Hell yes.

Comparing her to Perlmutter is insulting. She has always been one of the best producers in the business because she gets and facilitates the creative process.

Hence my comment about "not being crazy like Perlmutter". Or would that require not pulling comments out of context so you can be angry about them.

She is the CEO of Lucasfilm, like Perlmutter is the CEO of Marvel. They are the same spot on the hierarchy. Feige pulled a power play and got himself out from under Perlmutter (thank the heavens); but Feige doesn't control Marvel TV or Marvel Comics - while as Kennedy has full control over ALL aspects of Star Wars.

It would be a waste of her talent to have her just watch over the movies (ala Feige) rather than working on all aspects of the IP.

Doing the direct comparison to Feige and the former Marvel Brain Trust (including people like Alan Fine, Brian Michael Bendis, Joe Quesada) highlights some interesting differences.

Kathleen Kennedy oversees a Story Group that includes

Kiri Hart
Pablo Hidalgo
Leland Chee
Carrie Beck
Diana Williams

Note there isn't a single white male on that list. Hell, there's only one white person (Carrie Beck) outside of Kennedy.

Heh, Leland and Pablo are on the team because of their roles pre Disney (Leland Yee was basically the guy who kept tabs on canon, Pablo was a writer for StarWars.com and did work on the old school West End RPG), and Kiri is the producer of Star Wars Rebels (which seems like a good idea, to have the person in charge of your in-canon TV show be on the team that keeps track of well, canon). Not sure about Beck or Williams though.

EDIT: Thanks to a poster above

Lor San Tekka referring to the balance of the Force is another one.



Lucasfilm's equivalent to Feige is Kiri Hart.

Meet Disney’s ‘Star Wars’ Maestro, Kiri Hart

http://lucasfilm.com/our-team/kiri-hart

Looks like Kiri Hart is the equivalent of Feige.
 
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Maz was so awesome. "Where's my boyfriend? ....I love that Wookie."

Anyone else find it really odd that they barely spent any time on Chewie to let him react to Han's death? Almost nothing. It's the end of so much history and we barely let him react.
 
I saw it guys, I feel like it's okay to actually like star wars again after 32 years of re-edits, bad decisions and terrible prequels.

Not sure how well they can keep the ball rolling but it's off to a good start. I suspect that the next film will probably be pretty good - "source of the jedi" or something along those lines maybe ? I imagine it will be filled with at least a couple scenes showing what happened with Kylo Ren and both Ren and Rey will be receiving training from their respective masters. Kylo might even perhaps be renamed Darth Curlyfro ? I also think Captain Phasma might return(after escaping the garbage disposal off camera) and Finn will obviously be sensing the force more clearly, maybe even get his own light saber ? There are many possibilities.

I don't even mind that they played it very safe with this film , it's got all of the same story beats - Han Solo is Obi-wan (the father mentor figure who dies) , Rey is Luke, Finn is Leia , BB8 is r2d2. Luke is now Yoda , snoke is palpatine and Ren is Vader. The map replaces the death star plans and the star killer replaces the death star. It works though , after so long a retread plot is needed , I just kind of hope with this out of the way that Episode 8 isn't just "the bleak one where the good guys lose". Also , is it just me or did the star killer basically just destroy all of the planets from the prequels ?

Anyway that's about it for me.
 
I don't remember actually seeing where Luke was but Kylo definitely talks about it later. (and doesn't realize what he's seeing).
 
Anyone else find it really odd that they barely spent any time on Chewie to let him react to Han's death? Almost nothing. It's the end of so much history and we barely let him react.

Given Chewie's 400 years old, I'd say he might be used to that sort of thing now.


Still wanted more stuff from it though
 
Anyone else find it really odd that they barely spent any time on Chewie to let him react to Han's death? Almost nothing. It's the end of so much history and we barely let him react.
I disagree, chewie raged hard when he died, and was then shown weeping afterwards. We will most likely feel the affects of Han's death till episode 9
 
Doing the direct comparison to Feige and the former Marvel Brain Trust (including people like Alan Fine, Brian Michael Bendis, Joe Quesada) highlights some interesting differences.

Kathleen Kennedy oversees a Story Group that includes

Kiri Hart
Pablo Hidalgo
Leland Chee
Carrie Beck
Diana Williams

Note there isn't a single white male on that list. Hell, there's only one white person (Carrie Beck) outside of Kennedy.

You're missing Rayne Roberts (who is also not white!).
 
so much personality in this movie, all the actors really gave it their all

masterful conveyance

It might because of my age as a twenty-something, but I feel that I definitely like them way more than when I got introduced to the original crew in ANH.
 
Saw this today. I liked it alright. It had a bit of the goofiness that was in the Star Trek reboot, which I didn't care for. But aside from that it was a decent entry in the series. Better than the prequels for sure. Empire and a New Hope are definitely a lot better, but it may edge out Return of the Jedi for me.
 
Anyone else find it really odd that they barely spent any time on Chewie to let him react to Han's death? Almost nothing. It's the end of so much history and we barely let him react.

Yeah, that was a bit strange. I thought for sure there would have at least been a moment of Leia and Chewie embracing each other and grieving together instead of just the two shots of them sitting and sulking.
 
Anyone else find it really odd that they barely spent any time on Chewie to let him react to Han's death? Almost nothing. It's the end of so much history and we barely let him react.

It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that.
 
Oscar Isaac doesn't even act, he is just a bro.

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It might because of my age as a twenty-something, but I feel that I definitely like them way more than when I got introduced to the original crew in ANH.

If I were to take ANH on its own, I'd probably say the same. It's hard, though; I watched the three OT movies on VHS over and over again starting pretty much the moment I learned to walk on through until I was like 13.

28 here btw.

Anyway, point is, it's really difficult for me to isolate ANH. Not impossible, I suppose. It's pretty standalone and whatnot. And, having seen TFA twice now, I'm pretty sure I can safely say that I like TFA more. And I like its character introductions more.

Especially Rey > Luke. I love the character Luke becomes, but I don't love him in ANH. I love Rey from the word go.
 
Poe was great. Is he a hero character for flight battles in Battlefront? If he isn't he sure as hell should be. I appreciate that Spider-Man sarcasm he was giving Kylo Ren
 
It might because of my age as a twenty-something, but I feel that I definitely like them way more than when I got introduced to the original crew in ANH.

Been hearing this from more than a few fans. I think it might be that Poe, Finn & Rey had a chance to bounce off each other on basically the same level in a way Luke, Han & Leia really didn't get to until much later in the movie. Luke spends a lot of his intro being yelled at or slightly condescended to by much older dudes, until he meets Han, who more or less disregards him entirely, and only after springing the Princess does their interplay really start to take off. That's like 90 minutes into the film.

With the Force Awakens, Poe flicks Kylo shit, bumps into Finn, and they hit it off great, until he bumps into Rey, which has them sparking, chemistry-wise... They basically don't meet any grumpy old fuckers looking to teach these whippersnappers a thing or two until about the 45 mark when Han Solo shows up.

I think that makes a big difference as to how ingratiating these guys can be.
 
Well, I watched an afternoon screening today, and thought it was pretty entertaining! I'd certainly watch it again.

For the record, I'm not an avid Star Wars fan; as I thought the prequel/original trilogies were decent, and don't care much for the pop culture craze. However, I'm looking forward the next episode.

Some thoughts that comes to mind:

- The cinematography is phenomenal; especially when Rey was scavenging the interior of the star destroyer and the encounter between Han and Kylo.
- I find Rey to be quite endearing, I'm looking forward to seeing how her character hones her Force abilities in the next episode.
- The Millennium Falcon reveal was perfect.
- Harrison Ford settled well back into his role as Han Solo; his "negotiations" with the space pirates was pretty amusing.
- I thought that Carrie Fisher did okay as Leia; perhaps her script could've been better?
- I would've liked to see the combat capabilities of the chrome stormtrooper.
- Kylo should've kept his mask on, he doesn't look as menacing or intimidating with his face uncovered.
 
Hence my comment about "not being crazy like Perlmutter". Or would that require not pulling comments out of context so you can be angry about them.

It's not about being angry. Don't know why you would think I am. It's about the fact that Kennedy understands that creative comes first so she stays involved to keep it on track. It was Kennedy that jettisoned Lucas's ideas for Ep 7.


Pearl utter just cares about money and could care less about creative integrity.
 
Poe was great. Is he a hero character for flight battles in Battlefront? If he isn't he sure as hell should be.
he isn't but maybe he can be dlc with his orange and black tie fighter. his piloting skills are up there with the skywalkers if not better.
 
Battlefront is focusing on the OT era, so nope, he isn't.

Yeah but I could see them doing it as a promotion. Battle of Jakku is in there.

What trailers did you guys get?

I got Warcraft, Civil War, Apocalypse, and something called The 5th Wave that I initially mistook for a District 9 sequel.
 
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