I find it lewd
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I find it lewd
If you go on http://waltdisneystudiosawards.com/#/star-wars/music and skip through to "The Resistance", it has a really good rendition of Poe Dameron's theme, which isn't on the official soundtrack.
You know if they weren't related, this would make sense. I mean the bad boy/ good girl thing is always over with audiences.
PrivateWHudson
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Speaking of Leia, are we going to see her use the force in 8? Would love to find out that she's been secretly training and is a total badass.
The Clone Wars series clarified that darksiders cannot learn Force ghost, and that Qui-Gon is the first Jedi to have done so. The Sith believe that death is an absolute ("Only a Sith deals in absolutes!") and their greatest/only fear in life is death. They want eternal life because they want power and they never want to relinquish it. Someone who completely gives themselves up to the Force and experiences total ego death, learning to let the Living Force guide them completely regardless of dogma or orthodoxy, can achieve eternal life as a conduit through which the Force can speak. This is why Qui-Gon was the first, and he taught it to Obi-Wan and Yoda.
If Plagueis did succeed in finding a way to "cheat death", then he's the first darksider to figure out how to do so.
The new canon has been rectifying that already. Sinjir in Aftermath (as well as Snap/Temmin Wexley's aunts) are gay, as well as Moff Delian Mors.
betting we will see her only in a funeral scene and then the torch is passed tot he new crew
The Librarian
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Actually, it's not. As a gay woman, people assume I'm attracted to men all the time, and it's a huge burden I deal with in my life. Hence, I noted how peculiar it was that everyone was assuming Rey is attracted to men even though the movie gives no indication that this is the case.
Couple that with Star Wars' lack of gay characters, I threw out the idea that she could be gay. Which is awesome!
Its hilarious how this whole thing spun out of control
Personally I do think they will go Rey/Finn with a possible love triangle since thry talked rumors of open calls for chicks to do a "chemistry" read with Finn's character
Theodoricos
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Man, I hope she trips, and falls into that bonfire.
Nope, Ep VIII is out in 18 months!
why would you say such a thing
Dash_Riprock
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Empire did have the romance for the non-Luke parts. They'll definitely need something to pad out that running time.
There's one moment that might suggest her and Finn have a spark, I think it's after the Falcon chase when they finally learn each other's names. There's a brief moment where they both look at each other kind of smiling, like something was going to happen maybe, then the Falcon breaks, sending steam up from the floor and interrupting the moment. I think it would be really easy to read into that, but it's not really enough to definitively suggest anything. Could just be their friendship solidifying. They can very easily go any which way with the characters in the coming films.
PrivateWHudson
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Unfortunately, I'm sure you are correct. I know everyone has been looking forward to Luke's progression post OT, but for some reason I always wanted to see what would become of Jedi Leia. I had always hoped that she would be able to combine the prestige of being a Princess/Queen with the power of being a Jedi and bring something new to the table. Instead they made her a rather boring General.
We need to tie up loose ends.
SmackAttack
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I really hope so. She definitely looked like she belongs in Star Wars, that's for sure.
I have a friend who's positively stuck on calling her character Mary Sue Skywalker though. He wasn't a fan.
Skipped it to be perfectly honest.
I'll eventually get around to it. Same with the Christmas special
there is more than one hint at Rey and Finn having a romantic thing.
The Librarian, it'd be cool and all and im down with star wars gay characters, but reacting at people believing the characters to be romantically involved with "not any such indication" is silly when they get more than just one "deep stare / smile but then something happens that breaks away their attention" cliche movie moments.
c'mon.
im all for it but no need to attack people when there's plenty of reason for them to think this way beyond this "men just assume women are attracted to men!!" thing
maybe it's cool for now that we get a black possibly romantic lead with a white female?
The Librarian, it'd be cool and all and im down with star wars gay characters, but reacting at people believing the characters to be romantically involved with "not any such indication" is silly when they get more than just one "deep stare / smile but then something happens that breaks away their attention" cliche movie moments.
c'mon.
im all for it but no need to attack people when there's plenty of reason for them to think this way beyond this "men just assume women are attracted to men!!" thing
maybe it's cool for now that we get a black possibly romantic lead with a white female?
That's still 18 months of Rey crazy conspiracies.
Already Torn
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She was so likable though! When she makes that weird bread stuff at the beginning? Way better than Luke.
And yeah, the only thing in favor of Rey being gay was that she didn't kiss Finn on the mouth, which is nothing.
JaseMath
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Fuck that guy; she's a badass. She's (probably going to be) a Jedi. She's a pilot. She's has personality to spare. She's gorgeous. If she was a he, you're friend would have a new cinema hero.
Problem is that Carrie got irked over having to lose weight, I don't think there's a chance in Hell she'd make it to 'Jedi Queen in action sequences' mode.
That bread looked delicious. I would've traded ten BB 8's for more.
Nothing beats Anakin's Naboo avocados
Kor of Memory
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It would be cool if it happens. I just don't see anything to support either side right now, so I didn't feel like it was worth discussing.
If it does happen, I just hope it's done in a way that it doesn't consume her identity.
Amen.
Just got home from the theater! My first reaction is that it's a really good movie, but not a great one. I liked all the characters (although Finn not as much), and Rey especially. She will be a true badass by the third movie. Ren was mopy but not emo, and came across as a believable character in the end. Weirdly enough I though Han Solo came across a little flat, not like the charming rogue I remember. I was also a bit disappointed in the overall plot. It felt a bit rushed towards the end, and the Death Star plot felt like a footnote inserted to bring the characters together to tell the REAL story. Also, does anyone know why they made the plot so similar to Episode IV? I assume it's deliberate?
Qui Gon messes with my theory (as does TCW as I'm understanding).. as I had even wrapped midichlorians into things.
The idea was that they become midichlorians that are bonded to the Jedi they died near. Which is why Yoda, Anakin and Obi Wan are all bonded to Luke who they died in the presence of.
Qui Gon messes with that idea, but he is (presumably) the first to use the technique, and it took him a while, so maybe his midichlorians took longer to find their intended source
(the Dark Side was clouding things according to Yoda )Again -- this was just an idea I had for years for fun, until canon apparently explained it.
I can see us getting a real nice triangle thing with Poe, Rey and Finn in 8 for the romance fix the series needs.
I can se
e Poe getting a head start with Rey leaving Finn devestated. Then while Rey is somewhere getting her training Poe will fall into the hands of the enemey being awfully disfigured in the process and Finn overcoming his saltiness getting Poe outta there.
... great, this in fanfic territory, isn't it?
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... great, this in fanfic territory, isn't it?
I'm partial to the crumb that the one clonetrooper in AotC is trying to cut with a knife for some reason.
thecouncil
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Anakin's ghost turned back to the dark side because, after RotJ, Obi Wan and Yoda ghosts continued to treat Anakin's ghost like crap and he again got fed up with them.
Anakin's ghost appears to Kylo to guide him to darkness now.
Switch it around. Finn is upset over Rey leaving and Poe senses that Finn needs loving and moves in.
SmackAttack
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Eh, maybe. He's not really a Star Wars fan anyway but he really didn't care for much of the movie. I agree completely with you though. She was great.
Happens to the best of us. We're all a little worked up over wondering where this is all going next, don't even sweat it.
He'd also be named Luke Skywalker. It's a shame people are projecting this onto her and have never had a problem with it in the series in the past.
TheOctodad
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Seriously if Kurt Russell got the part years ago, he would've nailed it back then, and today. I mean watch Death Proof if you doubt me.
LegendofLex
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People seem fixated on the idea that Kylo Ren getting shot by Chewie was the reason he lost the lightsaber fight.
That's not it at all.
What really happened is that he's a broken shell of a man, going up against someone whose scars are much less deep, who is learning to tap into her true self for the first time and doing so out of need and not out of desire for power.
His bowcaster wound is significant, of course - it's literally the first actual thing that happens after he kills his father - but it's a physical representation of the damage he has done to himself. Him struggling with the pain of the wound during the fight? Once again, a symbol of what he's doing to himself to keep going.
So what does this mean:
All kind of people are shipping Finn / Poe. Nobody in this thread appears to have any kind of problem entertaining homosexuality in Star Wars.
Who would we be shipping Rey with? That other charismatic female character in this movie, _______? When has shipping even been about expressed sexuality anyway? Benedict Cumbatch Sherlock fans ship Sherlock and Watson all the time, even tho Watson's married a lady and hasn't demonstrated attraction to men. Shipping is turning on-screen chemistry into silly fan art. Rey's only on-screen chemistry (indeed, on-screen interactions) are with men.
she's 100% a Mary Sue
yet
im still a big fan of her
next film needs to introduce stakes, and she does need to go through some sort of struggle for a proper character arc
in this one film, outside of a trilogy, she came from nowhere, a slave, and she could:
- Fly the millenium falcon
- Fire blasters accurately
- Beat trained people on Lightsaber duels
- Jedi mind trick the shit out of a stomtrooper on first try
it's not one or the other. she can be a writer insert / mary sue and still be potentially cool and whole. I just think this movie relied a lot on her "mysterious past" to the point where the stakes were pretty low regarding her specifically and the other characters felt like her baggage.
Im sure they'll have some super badass backstory that could explain how apt she is at everything in the star wars universe, but she neeeeeeeeeds something to hold her back in her abilities and to at least struggle a bit to make me properly care as I'd like.
She's a badass character and I really enjoyed her, but I wanna be as interested in her as I am in someone like Kylo, because of his flaws and his need to overcome them.
Rey as a character so far works much better in the big picture of a trilogy thing than she did in this first movie, cause all the presentation of her as a total badass left little room for the stakes to be high and care
The way to have a cool badass female character is to hold her in the same regards as a cool male character; you'd groan at a super badass male character that could do everything right always; but you love a character who overcomes hardships to achieve their goal through learning from mistakes and ocassionally failing but ultimately succeeding.
Having a SUPER BADASS WOMAN isnt suddenly "wow they made women cool!!" they need to be treated equally, as interesting and full protagonists
yet
im still a big fan of her
next film needs to introduce stakes, and she does need to go through some sort of struggle for a proper character arc
in this one film, outside of a trilogy, she came from nowhere, a slave, and she could:
- Fly the millenium falcon
- Fire blasters accurately
- Beat trained people on Lightsaber duels
- Jedi mind trick the shit out of a stomtrooper on first try
it's not one or the other. she can be a writer insert / mary sue and still be potentially cool and whole. I just think this movie relied a lot on her "mysterious past" to the point where the stakes were pretty low regarding her specifically and the other characters felt like her baggage.
Im sure they'll have some super badass backstory that could explain how apt she is at everything in the star wars universe, but she neeeeeeeeeds something to hold her back in her abilities and to at least struggle a bit to make me properly care as I'd like.
She's a badass character and I really enjoyed her, but I wanna be as interested in her as I am in someone like Kylo, because of his flaws and his need to overcome them.
Rey as a character so far works much better in the big picture of a trilogy thing than she did in this first movie, cause all the presentation of her as a total badass left little room for the stakes to be high and care
The way to have a cool badass female character is to hold her in the same regards as a cool male character; you'd groan at a super badass male character that could do everything right always; but you love a character who overcomes hardships to achieve their goal through learning from mistakes and ocassionally failing but ultimately succeeding.
Having a SUPER BADASS WOMAN isnt suddenly "wow they made women cool!!" they need to be treated equally, as interesting and full protagonists
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