Starsailor
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she's not a Mary-Sue, she made mistakes during the movie
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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Flintty
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I said the same. I loved the brutality and rawness of it. It makes perfect sense as they haven't been trained yet
Theodoricos
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Great post.
The Force Awakens is a flawed movie, make no mistake. Pretty flawed, I'll admit. But at its core it's an enjoyable, classic Star Wars experience that I thought more fans of the OT would nonetheless like, especially following the disappointing prequels. It was a breath of fresh air for the Star Wars franchise that it desperately needed.
I'll definitely be expecting an improvement from Episode VIII but for the start of a new trilogy, The Force Awakens works really well IMO.
Starsailor
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yeah i agree =).
but be prepared.
Zelda WiiU will be destroyed by Neogaf, like they destroy each assassin's creed since AC2 because it's not "ac2" , we all know it.
Btw , zelda had the same pattern: if zelda is so different from OOT it's bad (skyward sword) , but if the game is too close (TP) it's too very bad =/
Fans don't know what they want, but i know: they want to bring back to the OOT time or the first star wars movie....
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Yeah which made me think "damn the order is stupid for blowing up the wrong planet".
JJ did the same in Star Trek. I think he doesn't understand how space works.
Just like the last time JJ Abrams blew up a fan-favorite sci-fi planet, where he was lauded left and right for his incredible balls.
My understanding is no they're not.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Hosnian_system
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Takodana
Yeah I can see that. Especially with him getting wrapped up by the tentacle monster in the movie. But I still stand by my original statement.
Also since you bring up 3PO. Finn is also a stand in for him as well, with BB 8 being the R2 stand in for the Jakku scenes.
kopitarrulez_11
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She's hawt what you expect hahahaha
WadiumArcadium
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Pablo Hidalgo shed some light on this. From his Twitter:
So they're not watching the planets be destroyed, just the impact.
She's just a capable young woman who's learned a lot from living on a rough desert planet on her own for years. There aren't a lot of capable young women in film so I suppose I understand where all of these Mary Sue comments are coming from.
seriously?
Its stuff worth pointing out because its whats keeping this really good movie from being an amazing movie, and worst of all, it's material that seems to actually have been written and considered, but cut out of the film in order to keep the running time short, as if that really means anything when the two highest grossing films of all time are 3 hours long.
Starsailor
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Yea Takodana is in a different part of the galaxy from Hosnian Prime.
hahahaha
I can imagine him literally shrugging his shoulders at this.
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I can imagine him literally shrugging his shoulders at this.
They opted to go with the movie length that Star Wars typically runs. They'll get all the die hards to come back to the theater with the 3 hour cut, mark it.
kopitarrulez_11
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But yet these die hards are left disappointed again because they expected something completely new. I knew going in it would be a rehash they had to bring new fans in to have the same experience kids did seeing the original and old fans with all the nostalgia it had.
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Raven117
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I used to take this approach, but they I realized I enjoy reading folks who just come apart at the smallest things...and I laugh.
Sure, there is a place for constructive criticism and different of opinion, but damn...is there not also a place to sit back and just enjoy the ride?
Life is so much more fun that way.
Starsailor
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Star Wars has always been about an ensemble cast...though often even ensembles still have that one character that is just slightly more important then everyone else.
DryEyeRelief
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You're a true fan if you're unwilling to admit that something you like could possibly have flaws.
well no.
She's pretty but not "hot". But she's really pretty.
I think you could easily make the case for her being hot. Her jawline in particular is very attractive.
JumPeRJumPzZ
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Great post and i fully agree.
Starsailor
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Well i think Rey outfit is really awesome.
Ether_Snake
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You know Disney will first release a bare-bones verison of the movies, then extended.
Theodoricos
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There us a huge difference between discussing flaws and the condescending tone that some choose to take in this thread.
Everyone who loves this movie knows that it is not perfect.
Flintty
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What? I'm a white male and had no problems relating to him. I never even thought about his colour, why would I? He's just a cool character played brilliantly by a talented actor. I don't understand your post/point.
Atraveller
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It shouldn't be that far apart, if one could see Hosnian planets with naked eye, they should be at most light minutes away.
kopitarrulez_11
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The cute personality I think also is at play
Starsailor
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They're not. I look forward to the EU explanations for this.
TheOctodad
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That lightsaber does it for a lot of people I'm sure.
Discotheque
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This is a pretty awful post. About as cliched as it gets too, clockwork in every movie with a strong following
Did you seriously just drop the "how can you monsters enjoy anything" card just because of some criticism? I agree nitpicks sometimes get carried away but there are plenty of valid arguments being made as well.
Bobby Roberts
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It's probably what he was initially responding to.
I mean, it'd be weird if he read all that truth and then decided "well, I'm going to continue to pursue this bad look anyway, humph" but the call of the hot take can have a strong influence.
Lifejumper
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It may seem negative. But i think a majority enjoyed the movie. I like the discussion positive or negative. Its a good time to be a sw fan.
NYCmetsfan
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Why couldn't finn have his normal accent? Rey has a british accent or at least seems to keep much of it. Finn's voice was so weird when he first started talking since I had seen attack the block
DryEyeRelief
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The movie isn't a person.
Starsailor
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I hope Daisy Ridley will quick learn celebrity.
Because she already made a great mistake in Instagram and she recieved many insult... =(
Because she already made a great mistake in Instagram and she recieved many insult... =(
Scientist Supreme!
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Really?
I really dislike the term "nitpick" it just feels so disingenuous when lobbied at people. Not everyone is going enjoy something the way you enjoy it and not say anything negative about it. That doesn't mean they "hate fun" or anything.
Lifejumper
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What did she do?
He said on The Graham Norton Show that it would have been weird if all these Stormtroopers speak with an accent and he comes out with an English one, IIRC. He definitely addressed it on the show but I cannot remember 100% what he said.
Bobby Roberts
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This movie has a lot of problems with it. Calling them out is a good thing.
It's still a pretty good movie, though. I don't know that I'd stick it in my top 10 of the year. Maybe at the bottom (I still have a LOT to see before I feel comfy making that list), but there's way more to like than dislike, though. It's just for a lot of people, it's more interesting to dig into why the movie is flawed, and how those flaws came to be, than it is to go over the really good bits in depth to determine why they're good.
NYCmetsfan
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a lot of it is nitpicking because the criticism can be leveled at pretty much any fiction (suspension of disbelieve, time constraints). Its like people have never seen a movie or read a book before
Starsailor
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