Theodoricos
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No he didn't. The exchange goes like this:
Han: "Take off that mask. You don't need it."
Kylo: "What do you think you'll see if I do?"
Han: "The face of my son."
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No he didn't. The exchange goes like this:
Han: "Take off that mask. You don't need it."
Kylo: "What do you think you'll see if I do?"
Han: "The face of my son."
Doesn't matter. Most of that stuff is implied. It's no shock she understands droid speak. Not to mention it's not hard to assume she knows her shit regarding ships. She's been scavenging Star Destroyer parts. She's clearly resourceful.
Sure it may be could have been conveyed better but everything is right there to some capacity.
Feel like not enough is made of how long Obi-wan had it. Not that there needs to be, but it's groundwork for the future, possibly.
You must've loved seeing Yoda flipping about like a spastic ninja dwarf.
A Serious Man
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Rey does not have famous parents. Her characters journey in this film is about letting go of the parents who abandoned her and embracing her future as a Jedi. Part of her appeal is that she's no one special (like much of the audience) but she can find greatness within herself. Luke had a similar arc but it was established early on in ANH that he was the son of a great Jedi. As many beats as TFA takes from the OT, I don't think the surprise parentage twist is one they want to repeat. They could have very easily done so with Kylo Ren and wisely chose not to. Kylo represents the Skywalker line and I'm fairly certain that by Episode IX we'll be seeing "Ben Skywalker" toys on store shelves.
wasted potential on both accounts.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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It's just that could easily imply she's simply the next force user (plus it would be weird for Maz to know she's Luke's daughter when she had to ask Han who "that girl" is). The line I quoted explicitly draws a distinction between the ones Rey was waiting for on Jakku (her family) and the "one that still could" (Luke), unless Maz is purposefully being confusing like I said.
I agree though, they have created so much mystery with this movie, which I find funny considering a major complaint is that this was just a retread.
Skellig Gra
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I am interested in how Maz got it as well. Doesn't she say "that story is for another time"?
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Just got back from second viewing myself.
In total I've paid for 5 tickets to star wars in the past 6 days. Ticket prices are about £10 each.
In total I've paid for 5 tickets to star wars in the past 6 days. Ticket prices are about £10 each.
TheOctodad
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Or potential investment for the future.
NYCmetsfan
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Ben Solo or Ben Ortega no?
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Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
It's not that weird, she's a woman leading character in a male-heavy franchise.
But don't worry, it's only a small corner of the internet
Unfortunately. I feel that story is going to be it's own comic or book lol
No, I don't see it as nitpicking. I don't really like to call small complaints "nitpicking" because it shuts down discussion.
Though I like Kylo Ren looking so plain. Part of the point of the character is that he wants to be a Darth Vader-style badass but is really just a poser. And so beneath the mask, he's not a monster or a badass, he's just a dude with some serious emotional issues.
Yes. I read during the vision they had a kind of montage showing the journey from Bespin to there, but that got cut. So it's there, it just needs telling somewhere.
NYCmetsfan
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Maz knows about rey (her parents) and gets Luke saber. If she's his son it make sense he might have passed through before going into hiding.
shortsFortallPeople
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people spent 2-3 movies watching luke try to master the force and Rey kinda nails the force in about 30 minutes. Unless there's some sort of backstory that we're not privy to yet, yeah, that stuff kinda rings false right now.
Skellig Gra
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Btw, I'm still reading the art book, and I'm now conflicted over ship designs for the First Order.
On one hand, the reskin of classic Empire stuff feels too safe but would make sense in terms of what the Order is.
On the other hand, the fresher designs they had in concept are pretty creative, but don't feel so "Star Wars" half the time. One of the proposed ones is a red Star Destroyer with negative spaces akin to the USS Vengeance in STID
On one hand, the reskin of classic Empire stuff feels too safe but would make sense in terms of what the Order is.
On the other hand, the fresher designs they had in concept are pretty creative, but don't feel so "Star Wars" half the time. One of the proposed ones is a red Star Destroyer with negative spaces akin to the USS Vengeance in STID
My thought on this was, Snoke was more worried the Resistance finding Luke than he was about killing him. There's an exchange with Kylo and Hux where the latter says Snoke (good lord what an awful name) wants the droid captured if possible, destroyed if not. That just blowing it up was on the table meant he was more worried about the Resistance finding Luke than with killing him outright.
WadiumArcadium
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Phasma's definitely in VIII.
The Librarian
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I think it's mostly likely she's adopted. Still his daughter and a Skywalker.i don't want rey to be Luke child, it will be so boriiiing
The theater that I'm going to see it in tomorrow:
(greyed out means completely sold out)
Wild stuff.
A Serious Man
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You're right, probably Ben Solo.
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DiipuSurotu
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So... why did Luke never bother training Leia?
Tried posting this on mobile earlier but think it failed. Someone linked me the below bit of backstory which I do kind of think should have been explained a *tad* more in the movie:
http://imgur.com/QLGdlDS
That said, certainly didn't want the film to be bogged down in politics it didn't need!
http://imgur.com/QLGdlDS
That said, certainly didn't want the film to be bogged down in politics it didn't need!
NYCmetsfan
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Lol I'm my phone and already screwed up the genders and I think made a different error. HahaIf she's his son, this is new territory for SW gender identities afiak
so she made it off starkiller with hux and kylo? wouldn't expect finn to let her go.
brandonh83
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Doubt she was interested.
GiantEnemyGoomba
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This still doesn't make sense to me. Luke was able to block blaster bolts without seeing and destroyed the Death Star without a targeting computer. I don't see how Rey was sooo much more adept in TFA.
TheOctodad
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Adoption has the potential to be so powerful in this trilogy.
Snoke: "No one has ever cared about you. They have always abandoned you."
Luke: "The daughter I never had - you are now a Skywalker."
The juxtaposition is too perfect.
The theater that I'm going to see it in tomorrow:
(greyed out means completely sold out)
Wild stuff.
Curious. What area are you in, if you don't mind me asking. It also looks like they're only showing it in one of their theaters. How many do they have?
Littlebigbenny
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I only have a problem with the flight sim stuff. Everything else is fine.
shortsFortallPeople
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I dont get this not-wanting-rey-to-be-a-skywalker thing. the films have always been about skywalkers. like, literally all of them. there hasn't been one not about a skywalker.
I'm fine with it so long as it's handled well. Rey should be pissed at Luke for him leaving her on Jakku, Luke should feel a mix of relief and also grief over her being okay but also of her pursing the use of the force that will instantly make her a target of the first order and, of course, the shame of not being there for her.
It can be done perfectly fine, in a manner that works. Given the mountain of evidence piling up regarding Rey's link to Luke, y'all are just setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think she isn't a skywalker.
I'm fine with it so long as it's handled well. Rey should be pissed at Luke for him leaving her on Jakku, Luke should feel a mix of relief and also grief over her being okay but also of her pursing the use of the force that will instantly make her a target of the first order and, of course, the shame of not being there for her.
It can be done perfectly fine, in a manner that works. Given the mountain of evidence piling up regarding Rey's link to Luke, y'all are just setting yourselves up for disappointment if you think she isn't a skywalker.
When the first thing she does is a well executed jedi mind trick and then she is doing a force pull for a lightsaber, well, that doesnt seem right when luke could barely move a rock in the beginning of TESB and he had freaking yoda teaching him
NYCmetsfan
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Mobile autocorrect!Organa?
The theater that I'm going to see it in tomorrow:
(greyed out means completely sold out)
Wild stuff.
Damn... that's crazy.
Skellig Gra
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I'm guessing there was never any time. She was probably heavily involved in military operations/politics the entire time between ROTJ and TFA.
WadiumArcadium
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I don't know how but Kathy Kennedy's said she still has a role to play. Any role would be fine lol.
The theater that I'm going to see it in tomorrow:
(greyed out means completely sold out)
Wild stuff.
What type of theater? Imax?
I'm going back to mine for a 3rd viewing it's your standard theater. Don't expect anything to be sold out but they do have all the times open for it. Just debating on which one to go to.
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You have to be confident to use the Force. She dismisses Luke's assertation that she has the same power he does in ROTJ.
She's too busy with saving the galaxy. When the Republic didn't want to stomp out every remnant of the Empire, she took it upon herself to do so. Why spend time away from that lofty goal when Luke is already trained?
It can give the impression of a dynasty if all the Force is just in the Skywalker family. It'd invite people to attack pre-emptively to prevent another Vader (who was a Skywalker)
She saw how the Dark Side is prominent in her family. She knows she has a temper and wouldn't be suited to a Jedi and would one day succumb to the Dark Side.
etc, etc.
Lots of reasons really.
You'd think Luke would put her in a slightly better situation than all alone to fend for herself.
NYCmetsfan
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But he could train their son? I think the second thing is more likely. She chose politics like her mother and what she had been during the Empire
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Here's a prediction: Luke will utter the following words in the next movie or two: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine".
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