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If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?
 
If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?

I hope Rey taunts Kylo that she's using Vader's saber.
 
If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?


I'm under the impression Luke still has his green saber. I don't recall him taking it when he escaped from the second Death Star, though, but it's his. The blue was the one Kenobi gave him and I'm assuming was found on Bespin, maybe by Maz even.
 
If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?

a) Luke may still have the green one himself (can't recall if they show him with it at the end of Jedi
b) If he didn't take it with him then it's even more of a lost cause than the blue one since it was on the Death Star 2 when it went boom
c) Legacy is obviously important- the blue one is the only one that was owned by both Anakin and Luke
 
If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?

Luke still has his Green Saber. He had it at the end of Jedi.

Anakin's Lightsaber would have been lost on Cloud City somewhere. I have no idea how they're going to explain how it got from there to Maz's place.

Maybe Lando?
 
If we're talking about Lightsabers, can someone explain to me why Luke's lightsaber is the blue one, the one which belonged to Anakin?

I thought this lightsaber was lost and Luke built himself the green one, which was supposedly a big deal, since every Jedi must build his own lightsaber.

So.. Why didn't they use the green one? Was the blue one used just because it also belonged to Anakin?

Yes. That saber has a big connection to both Anakin and Luke.
 
Hopefully C3-PO is all red next movie.

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There is no question that Anakin was indeed the chosen one in terms of the prophecy stating that he will be the one who will "bring balance to the force". But I've always seen it as something less defined entirely by his personal actions and more by the change in status quo simply by him coming into existence. Anakin joins the dark side, Anakin fathers Luke and Leia, Anakin betrays the Emperor, Anakin inspires Kylo Ren, etc. The force is still being balanced after all these decades, it remains in flux, and the balance is directly the consequence of Anakin having existed.

This is an amazing interpretation, I really like it.
 
Hopefully C3-PO is all red next movie.

Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.
 
Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.
Theres stuff this movie didn't make as clear as it could have, but that is not one of them lol

Its 30 years after ROTJ. Dude probably just got rusted and old and his arm was the first to go.
 
Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.

I'm pretty sure it's exactly that lol. Supposedly it's going to be in the upcoming C3PO comic. ;)
 
Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.

Haven't explained it yet I believe, so ya other sources.

I read the wiki trying to find info on it, but there was nothing. I did find this though:

Shortly before the Battle of Starkiller Base, C-3PO had neglected to turn on the tracking device of BB-8 before the droid went on a vital mission to Jakku with Poe Dameron.

God dammit, really?
 
Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.

Why does there need to be an explanation? It just shows that time passes and that the characters weren't static in the 30 years since Jedi.

God dammit, really?

Yes, it's a part of the novelization. Presumably it was at least in the original script and may have been filmed but left on the cutting room floor.
 
Can they first explain why C3PO's arm was red though?

Like unless I missed a line of dialogue, it wasn't said. Ugh, this better not be one of those "left to comics and books" outside source material explanation things.

Star Wars Special: C-3PO 1 is an upcoming one-shot Marvel comic book that will be published on February 24, 2016 as part of the Journey to Star Wars: The Force Awakens publishing program. The comic, written by James Robinson with art by Tony Harris, will tell the story of how C-3PO received a red-colored arm, as seen in the film Star Wars: Episode VII The Force Awakens.
Look forward to it!!
 
There is no question that Anakin was indeed the chosen one in terms of the prophecy stating that he will be the one who will "bring balance to the force". But I've always seen it as something less defined entirely by his personal actions and more by the change in status quo simply by him coming into existence. Anakin joins the dark side, Anakin fathers Luke and Leia, Anakin betrays the Emperor, Anakin inspires Kylo Ren, etc. The force is still being balanced after all these decades, it remains in flux, and the balance is directly the consequence of Anakin having existed.

That's a great way to look at it!
 
Luke still has his Green Saber. He had it at the end of Jedi.

Anakin's Lightsaber would have been lost on Cloud City somewhere. I have no idea how they're going to explain how it got from there to Maz's place.

Maybe Lando?

Seemed like a hook for a potential stand-alone film to me. Maz teams up with an elderly Lando to recover Luke's lightsaber from, I dunno, Zuckuss, who found it while eating garbage on Bespin.
 
Just got back. Had some issues, I'm willing to look past some if its to set up the next 2.

Biggest problem was a lack of the epic Star Wars feeling.
A lack of world building/ travelling. The story just kind of moves along at a weird pace.
I really didn't feel an emotional attachment to anything and the First Order is lame. It's like Space Neo-Nazis, a bunch of petulant kids.

A lot of the characters felt flat and underdeveloped

Lack of John Williams score was very noticeable.

I'm hoping they expand more and this was just a bridge to the next 2 films
I have no elaborate argument to offer, other than I disagree with you. I think TFA captured the spirit and energy of the original trilogy very well, and Star Wars world building is an ongoing process, TFA did as well as the others movie did.

First Order is space neo-nazis, and there's nothing wrong about that.
 
Not necessarily, not if Snoke turns out to be Plageus.



I thought it was a great take on that, especially since Anakin was so un-Christ-like. It was a more human take on what a "chosen one" could be. The idea that even someone so flawed could play such an important role in the development of peace and humanity.
JJ straight said in interviews these guys are not Sith
 
Why not just spray paint the red arm gold? Such a simple task.
It was temporary. Threepio mumbles something about his arm being repaired right after popping up between Han and Leia. His gold arm was back at the end during the last crowd shot as the Falcon took off to find Luke.
 
The score really is the only part of the film I consider truly weak, honestly. All respect to Williams - I'm one of those people who thinks the PT scores are on par with if not occasionally better than the OT scores - but it was... flimsy. Milquetoast. Rey's leitmotif is great but the rest of the score felt very, very bland. I mean, with the bright horns and deep cello section it undoubtedly had that Star Wars feel, but only in the same way that the Hobbit scores having an anvil bang every now and then reminded you they were Shore Middle-earth scores.

It does its job fine (it's never bad at any point in the film) but I wouldn't hesitate to rank it dead last in terms of Star Wars soundtracks.

JJ straight said in interviews these guys are not Sith

To be fair he also straight up said the movie didn't open with a traditional spaceship shot.
 
I remember reading C3P-0's arm was some tie-in to like a charity or something and it was representing a new type of prosthetics.

But I might be wrong here.
 
The score really is the only part of the film I consider truly weak, honestly. All respect to Williams - I'm one of those people who thinks the PT scores are on par with if not occasionally better than the OT scores - but it was... flimsy. Milquetoast. Rey's leitmotif is great but the rest of the score felt very, very bland. I mean, with the bright horns and deep cello section it undoubtedly had that Star Wars feel, but only in the same way that the Hobbit scores having an anvil bang every now and then reminded you they were Shore Middle-earth scores.

It does its job fine (it's never bad at any point in the film) but I wouldn't hesitate to rank it dead last in terms of Star Wars soundtracks.
To be fair to Williams, I think it has less to do with his age and talents and more to do with how Abrams edited the movie. Because of the way the movie is paced, there wasn't really any moments for the movie to build and swell into any new themes because of how quick the pacing was. It's clear Williams had to work hard to even get Rey's theme in there when she leaves the downed Star Destroyer because the scene quickly cuts away from the quiet moment of her by herself within a few shots.

The way George directed and edited, it gave Williams more wiggle room to build the music with how the shots lingered.
 
It does its job fine (it's never bad at any point in the film) but I wouldn't hesitate to rank it dead last in terms of Star Wars soundtracks.

yeah, I've been listening to it for awhile now. I like it. I don't love it. And I'm a MASSIVE fucking John Williams fan. But this is the least of the 7. I think it's because Williams just really isn't built for those types of scores anymore, and hasn't been for awhile. Even in Sith, you could feel him going into a different direction, artistically, and the scores he's done since bear that out.

Basically, it's too far along to go that far back again.

To be fair he also straight up said the movie didn't open with a traditional spaceship shot.

He's probably being slick there - Panning down to a planet and then having the silhouette of the ship block out the light wasn't "traditional" in the way Star Wars, Empire, Jedi opened.
 
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