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U.S. plans raids to deport hundreds of undocumented families

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Coolluck

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We have borders. We are always going to have borders. Mexico II isn't happening.

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If you enter a country illegally, you sure as shit deserve to get deported.

It's becoming more and more difficult for Europeans to get visas to go to America because of people entering illegally and ruining it for everyone else.
 

Mesousa

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If you enter a country illegally, you sure as shit deserve to get deported.

It's becoming more and more difficult for Europeans to get visas to go to America because of people entering illegally and ruining it for everyone else.

Why should it be easier for Europeans to get here? What right do they have to the land over people right at our doors who have been directly screwed by our foreign policy?
 

Rayis

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The Native Americans should have deported the English when they came here, they sure as hell had no papers.

inb4 it's not the same thing when it totally is
 

inky

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The Native Americans should have deported the English when they came here, they sure as hell had no papers.

inb4 it's not the same thing when it totally is

Are immigrants committing genocide too, because then it totally isn't ;P
 

daycru

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- Conquer a continent.
- Steal half a country and redraw border.
- Ethnically cleanse "frontier".
- Install dictators in Central and South America.
- Steal resources.
- Destabilize region.
- Crush popular resistance.
- Create black market drug trade.

- Deport people fleeing from resulting chaos because "laws have to be enforced" and "borders matter".

Give your house away then, it's on stolen land.
 

bengraven

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A lot of this is going to be my hometown. We were in the national papers twice in the last decade or two from massive immigration raids.

Fuck.
 

ChryZ

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Native Americans should deport the migrated ones, but don't send them back to Europe. We're "full" with other refugees :p
 

Hexa

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The Native Americans should have deported the English when they came here, they sure as hell had no papers.

inb4 it's not the same thing when it totally is

Exactly. And that's why we need to be smart and tough and protect our own borders so the same thing doesn't happen to us. We need to be smart and tough people. #Trump2016
 
Give your house away then, it's on stolen land.

1. This isn't an argument.
2. My grandparents were made U.S. citizens when our country was declared a U.S. colony. They came here after the U.S. destroyed the local economy.

It shouldn't be called "amnesty", it should be called reparations.
 

User1608

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If you enter a country illegally, you sure as shit deserve to get deported.

It's becoming more and more difficult for Europeans to get visas to go to America because of people entering illegally and ruining it for everyone else.
Yes, let's deport everybody, even those who came here as babies or children and have been here a long time, perhaps even decades.
 

Darkangel

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Why should it be easier for Europeans to get here? What right do they have to the land over people right at our doors who have been directly screwed by our foreign policy?

They're statistically more likely to be educated and/or well off.
 
Sure you are....

There's a lot of racism that gets tolerated on gaf, but denying people's identity is crossing the line. You can hate people of color, but you can not tell them that they are not who they are.

Edit: I'm still blown away by this post. Like, I've met a lot of really racist white people before, but I've never seen one tell a black person their ancestor's weren't slaves.
 

Staccat0

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I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
So you wanna send them our... Rapists... For example?
 

Mr. X

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Remember when running away from slavery was illegal? It's kind of fucked up for people leaving war or whatever to get sent back, especially since the issues they left might be a result of US meddling.
 

hom3land

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I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.


We did. Google ms-13.
 

Mesousa

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They're statistically more likely to be educated and/or well off.

Why is that a positive?

So H1B- visas can come here, without being saddled with debt due to their cheap/free College in their home nation, and lower the wages in skilled jobs Americans who went in to debt over here need to pay off such debt?

If we are being honest these H1B(not only from Europe, but from Asia and Africa) are fucking the American middle class as much as the undocumented workers fuck over the lower class in this country. I remember this year Disney tech workers having to train their own H1B replacements before being laid off. Shit is fucked up.
 
- Conquer a continent.
- Steal half a country and redraw border.
- Ethnically cleanse "frontier".
- Install dictators in Central and South America.
- Steal resources.
- Destabilize region.
- Crush popular resistance.

- Create black market drug trade.

- Deport people fleeing from resulting chaos because "laws have to be enforced" and "borders matter".

Bolded parts are essential in why people emmigrate, ironically to the nation that fucked them over.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Holy shit that was fast.

Might be a record. Holy crap.

Besides the fact that it's not a particularly good comparison to make as they are not even in the same realm of terribleness. Sounds like a chance to start an "Unexpected Godwin" twitter account.
 

params7

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Why is that a positive?

So H1B- visas can come here, without being saddled with debt due to their cheap/free College in their home nation, and lower the wages in skilled jobs Americans who went in to debt over here need to pay off such debt?

If we are being honest these H1B(not only from Europe, but from Asia and Africa) are fucking the American middle class as much as the undocumented workers fuck over the lower class in this country. I remember this year Disney tech workers having to train their own H1B replacements before being laid off. Shit is fucked up.

H1B is being exploited hard by tech management in U.S. Even liberal IT workers are voicing their concerns for it. H1B is only supposed to fulfill requirements for unavailable specialized talent, but it is mostly being used to recruit cheaper workers driving wages down for network/system admins. So far only Trump has talked about it.
 
If you enter a country illegally, you sure as shit deserve to get deported.

It's becoming more and more difficult for Europeans to get visas to go to America because of people entering illegally and ruining it for everyone else.

The argument that we "ruin" it for everyone else is a little silly. Also, people need to recognize there's a lot of nuance to this as well. A lot of us didn't enter illegally(or were brought here at a very young age) and certainly didn't plan on staying and suffering through the consequences of being "illegal". Shit, I didn't even know I was an illegal immigrant until I turned 16.

H1B is being exploited hard by tech management in U.S. Even liberal IT workers are voicing their concerns for it. H1B is only supposed to fulfill requirements for unavailable specialized talent, but it is mostly being used to recruit cheaper workers driving wages down for network/system admins. So far only Trump has talked about it.

And for some reason the blame is on the individuals being hired rather than the dickheads hiring them. The hilarious bit is that Trump is that same type of dickhead to exploit the system.
 
What's with the picture of Donald Trump in the OP seeing as how this raid will be planned and conducted by a federal body that ultimately is an arm of the Obama administration?
 
How do you file your taxes? Honest question!

I have a valid SS #(from a declined application, was given temporary stay during the application but later was denied, the SS # stays with me even though my status reverts back to "illegal") and if I didn't, I'd have a tax ID which a lot of illegal immigrants use to file. They file, pay and don't receive anything(not saying they should, but that is the case).
 
I have a valid SS #(from a declined application, was given temporary stay during the application but later was denied, the SS # stays with me even though my status reverts back to "illegal") and if I didn't, I'd have a tax ID which a lot of illegal immigrants use to file. They file, pay and don't receive anything(not saying they should, but that is the case).

How did you become illegal? If I can ask. It has to be stressful.

Edit: Read your post better. Damn. Sorry you got denied.
 

Kenai

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I have a valid SS # and if I didn't I'd have a tax ID which a lot of illegal immigrants use to file. They file, pay and don't receive anything(not saying they should, but that is the case).

This is quite interesting. Thank you for sharing. I knew that it happened but wasn't sure how.

I do think that our immigration policies should be better than they are now, but I have such a hard time wanting anything to do with the current methods when I know what the major driving factors are. Considering how our justice system tends to treat minorities, I would really like more information about those court orders.
 
How did you become illegal? If I can ask. It has to be stressfull.

My father brought me over with my sister and mother on a VISA. The plan was to come, stay for only a little bit and then go back(and re-apply again). We had a nice life back home, my father had a great job as an engineer and we owned our own beautiful home. Unfortunately my mother developed severe schizophrenia and everything changed. Hispanic culture doesn't deal with mental illness very well so my father really had no clue what was going on or what to do, plans had to change when he had to fulfill both roles and work very difficult low paying jobs. We ended up overstaying the Visa obviously, but my father underestimated how difficult the process or life would be with that status moving forward(especially after 9/11). Eventually I found out, took it in stride because I am an American, no doubt about that, I just deal with it.
 
My father brought me over with my sister and mother on a VISA. The plan was to come, stay for only a little bit and then go back(and re-apply again). We had a nice life back home, my father had a great job as an engineer and we owned our own beautiful home. Unfortunately my mother developed severe schizophrenia and everything changed. Hispanic culture doesn't deal with mental illness very well so my father really had no clue what was going on or what to do, plans had to change when he had to fulfill both roles and work very difficult low paying jobs. We ended up overstaying the Visa obviously, but my father underestimated how difficult the process or life would be with that status moving forward(especially after 9/11). Eventually I found out, took it in stride because I am an American, no doubt about that, I just deal with it.

I'm sorry to hear that. Glad that you now have a successful career. America is awesome and was made by people like you and with your spirit. I hope that you can change that status to Resident at some point in the future.

What's hyperbolic? It isn't his land. Give it back.

Do you still blame Germans over World War 1 and 2?
 

The M

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Trump isn't even president and you are blaming him for this?

Also:

The ICE operation would target only adults and children who have already been ordered removed from the United States by an immigration judge

I don't see the problem. It's not like they are going door to door looking for immigrants to deport who haven't gotten their due process in court. These are immigrants who are being ordered removed by a judge, aka having gotten their due process. Our executive branch is just following the law.
 

daycru

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I'm sorry to hear that. Glad that you now have a successful career. America is awesome and was made by people like you and with your spirit. I hope that you can change that status to Resident at some point in the future.



Do you still blame Germans over World War 1 and 2?

He's the one railing against the concept of boarders and citizenship. It isn't his land.

Give. It. Back.
 
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