Jest Chillin
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Yoda's adopted daughter. Boom.
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Yoda's adopted daughter. Boom.
I have a theory about Rey that goes back to the OT.
1. Uncannily strong piloting skills.
2. Extremely gifted in the Force.
3. Can handle a blaster and lightsaber with ease.
She could be the child of either Luke or Leia, right? Given how gifted she is? But it seems like even Kylo Ren isn't even as naturally gifted as she is and he is a direct descendant of Anakin. Even though he had a number of beatings going against him, that doesn't make up for how much better she is at using the Force with literally no training. My theory? Rey is the daughter of Luke AND Leia.
Let's look at the facts:
1. Luke and Leia had undeniable chemistry in all of the original Star Wars with a 90% or higher RT score.
2. Rey is great at using magic, so she must have a concentrated amount of midichlorians due to being the child of two space wizards.
3. Carries over the incest theme from all of Star Wars (Luke/Leia from OT, Yoda/Female Yoda from PT).
This makes the sequel have it's own "I'm your father" reveal, but far more shocking to the uninformed. Plus now with Han out of the way and time ravaging Leia, Luke will have no obstacles in his way.
1. Uncannily strong piloting skills.
2. Extremely gifted in the Force.
3. Can handle a blaster and lightsaber with ease.
She could be the child of either Luke or Leia, right? Given how gifted she is? But it seems like even Kylo Ren isn't even as naturally gifted as she is and he is a direct descendant of Anakin. Even though he had a number of beatings going against him, that doesn't make up for how much better she is at using the Force with literally no training. My theory? Rey is the daughter of Luke AND Leia.
Let's look at the facts:
1. Luke and Leia had undeniable chemistry in all of the original Star Wars with a 90% or higher RT score.
2. Rey is great at using magic, so she must have a concentrated amount of midichlorians due to being the child of two space wizards.
3. Carries over the incest theme from all of Star Wars (Luke/Leia from OT, Yoda/Female Yoda from PT).
This makes the sequel have it's own "I'm your father" reveal, but far more shocking to the uninformed. Plus now with Han out of the way and time ravaging Leia, Luke will have no obstacles in his way.
Blue Ninja
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They're not going to go that route lol. The incest themes were one of the weirdest things about the OT and something Lucas probably wishes he dialed back on. And since Disney is in charge they probably don't want their main lead to a product of incest.
Also it wouldn't even make sense story wise. She's never really showed any interest to Luke before knowing he was her brother. The kiss in Empire was to make Han jealous since he was the one she truly liked. The only time they could've fucked was before Empire but that would mean she was pregnant during the last two movies and I doubt that.
Also there were no incest themes in the prequels. Not sure how you came up with that just cause there is a female Yoda in the movie, and she's a female version of his race. I don't think it was stated she was direct family.
PHOENIXZERO
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I prefer Rey being Shmi and Star Wars is basically Futurama but instead of becoming incredibly stupid from the lack of a delta brainwave the Skywalkers get super force powers.
Seriously though, is it possible that the memory Rey has as a child could've been implanted and her being abandoned by her family as a child is actually a false memory and she hasn't been on Jakku as long as she believes? Looking at the marks on her wall and granted she could've started that way later, there doesn't look to be enough that would cover 10-15 years. Of course the Force showing a fake memory doesn't make sense so, nope.
Seriously though, is it possible that the memory Rey has as a child could've been implanted and her being abandoned by her family as a child is actually a false memory and she hasn't been on Jakku as long as she believes? Looking at the marks on her wall and granted she could've started that way later, there doesn't look to be enough that would cover 10-15 years. Of course the Force showing a fake memory doesn't make sense so, nope.
How can anyone deny that Snoke is Darth Plaguies? Just take look at this. Here is the track "Snoke" from the official Force Awakens Soundtrack.
http://youtu.be/mSQ3BJVMfAI
Okay now, I found a clip where Palpatine and Anakin are talking about Darth Plaguies but it didn't show the whole sound since it was towards the end of when this certain audio plays. Instead here is a damn near full version of Episode 3. Skip to 37:30. Just listen to what's playing as Palpatine and Anakin are about to converse about Plaguies! Edit: I found a much shorter clip but perfectly shows the audio I wanted to show. Pay attention to the audio played by the opera not the other music.
http://youtu.be/HLfGh2b_me0
Come on. How much more proof do you need!
Also here is the full track that plays in that scene called "The tragedy of Darth Plaguies" from the Revenge of the Sith soundtrack. Compare to the track Snoke. Snoke is Plaguies.
http://youtu.be/v0LhC7N3mNI
http://youtu.be/mSQ3BJVMfAI
Okay now, I found a clip where Palpatine and Anakin are talking about Darth Plaguies but it didn't show the whole sound since it was towards the end of when this certain audio plays. Instead here is a damn near full version of Episode 3. Skip to 37:30. Just listen to what's playing as Palpatine and Anakin are about to converse about Plaguies! Edit: I found a much shorter clip but perfectly shows the audio I wanted to show. Pay attention to the audio played by the opera not the other music.
http://youtu.be/HLfGh2b_me0
Come on. How much more proof do you need!
Also here is the full track that plays in that scene called "The tragedy of Darth Plaguies" from the Revenge of the Sith soundtrack. Compare to the track Snoke. Snoke is Plaguies.
http://youtu.be/v0LhC7N3mNI
plasmawave
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It's going to be great.
FriedConsole
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That was too much of a response to an obvious coy bait post than it deserved. Should of just responded with a gif.
Kölsch Bloot
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Those two are force sensitive and might just feel it is strong with her.
People are basing it on no Luke relationship at the end of Return. But there is clearly a gap where a lot of big events took place.
AtomnayaKlubnika
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I am sure that Luke Skywalker is still a virgin.
Doctoglethorpe
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I headcanon that he shagged Nakari Kelen. They act like they had some fun in the hyper lane, if you know what I mean.
Book character btw.
AtomnayaKlubnika
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Finn is a Skywalker, a lot of people are going to be so mad ahah.
Edit: but the age doesn't add up I think.
Edit: but the age doesn't add up I think.
DangerMouse
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Yeah, he was awesome and it was great that they had him survive. Him reuniting with Finn was a great moment too.
The Star Wars wiki says Finn was born 7 years after the Battle of Endor. Maybe Luke's Jedi academy draws some unwanted attention and Finn ends up hidden in plain sight as a result.
How do you know Williams is using that music to represent Plagueis and not as generic 'dark side' music? I doubt they would leave such an obvious clue on purpose.
It's just some ominous chanting, it's not enough to say for sure that Snoke is Plagueis.
DiipuSurotu
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luke leaving his child daughter makes no sense. At all. Whatever former impérial mom or dark side risks épisode VIII Will reveal.
That said, most people won t bother. Ben being free to roam without Luke/Leia/Han desperatly fighting to bring him back makes no sense either...
longdi
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Or Luke choosing to go on a vacation instead of hunting down Snoke ...wtf is this movie logic JJ??
Going on exile for plot reasons? Not impossible to explain. Maybe he's looking for answers, maybe he's hiding, maybe he's waiting for someone.
Luke leaving his daughter on such a planet under such conditions without anyone? I can't think of a reasonable explanation, especially given the flashback.
brotkasten
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It's been a week since I saw the movie and while I really liked it as a whole, once scene in particular has been stuck in my head ever since, just because of the score.
It's the Resistance's attack on the First Order on Takodana. It's no coincidence that the shot with the X-Wings over the water was also my favorite scene in the first teaser. That shot, combined with Williams' track "March of the Resistance" really gave me the chills.
https://youtu.be/5mrfjOpbsW4
I love it.
It's the Resistance's attack on the First Order on Takodana. It's no coincidence that the shot with the X-Wings over the water was also my favorite scene in the first teaser. That shot, combined with Williams' track "March of the Resistance" really gave me the chills.
https://youtu.be/5mrfjOpbsW4
I love it.
brandonh83
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...*rolls back* WTF
...*rolls back* WTF
Best shot related to the movie and it wasn't even in the final movie. We got some shortened shot that looked completely different and lacked any impact.
Either that or a corner cutting measure. "I need several measures of a new dark side theme for Snoke. Well I wrote this for that one scene about Plageous. Maybe I can use that again. Nobody will notice, right?"
That seems to be typical fucking Jedi behavior in this universe. "Oh, I lost a battle and things are hard, guess I'll go into hiding for years and let evil reign."
It seems like in Star Wars once the Jedi aren't in large numbers after a slaying of a Jedi order, their options become hiding out or turning to the "quick and easy path" dark side." Seems like Jedi are lazy.
loganclaws
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Mark says the girl is daughter of jar jar.
Imperfected
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My thought is that after the rise of Snoke and turn of Ben, he came to the realization that simply killing the Sith is a sort of endless treadmill of tragedy; even if you hunt down every last Sith in the universe, the Force itself will see to it that new ones rise. He probably went into exile to meditate on the nature of the Force and to try and find his place in a world where simply killing the bad guy doesn't solve the underlying problem.
The destruction of a solar system by the First Order's Starkiller no doubt reached him even in exile, forcing him to recognize the immediate threat is far too great to ignore, even if he can't solve the underlying cause. He was found, basically, because he allowed himself to be found: through the Force he brought R2 back online, helped Rey to realize her powers and experience the visions from touching his lightsaber, etc.
Basically, like Obi before him (and whom he will probably heavily mirror) he's not interested in confronting the Sith directly because he's come to understand the inherent futility of it, but when the actions of the Sith begin to cause too much misery for the rest of the galaxy he becomes unable to ignore it.
She has the duck teeth like Jar Jar.
longdi
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But he is Luke fucking Skywalker. Kylo Ren is weak sauce, and Snoke does not look like a powerful guy since Leia & Han casually mentioned him. Luke should have force tricked himself into Snoke hiding ground and take him and Kylo 2-1 and still beat down their asses and prevented all this drama.
WadiumArcadium
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WadiumArcadium
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Nah, those stories are done. Lucasfilm need to focus on the future instead of trying to fix the past.
Grover Cleveland
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Not all that much?
Those movies are made. It's done, over.
Disney (and the franchise) would be better off expending their energy making new movies instead of remaking old ones.
[INSERT VII IS JUST A REMAKE OF STAR WARS JOKE HERE]
On beginning the Clone Wars series, in one episode Anakin was able to pause the pure energy of an explosion for a few seconds.
Now that is magnitudes of energy more than one blaster shot, so now Kylo's power appears more justified.
I actually expect her to have a yellow double lightsaber in the future.
Kölsch Bloot
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That would be awesome, actually.
Chuckwagon
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Finn is obviously Leia and Lando's kid. Don't act like Lando didn't hit that. You know it to be true.
Would that be the first time we see a yellow-bladed lightsaber in movie canon?
Why do you think it would have a yellow crystal?
As is said, I know it's not going to happen but it just saddens me that there will always be that flaw that was Episode 1-3.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah, there haven't been any yellow lightsaber users in the films.
The Jedi Temple Guards had them.
I think she'll use Luke's old saber in VIII, it'll get destroyed and she'll have a green one in IX. It's like poetry.
I'm just going to reiterate this since it seems like some people missed it the first time around:
-Luke's Jedi shouldn't be thought of as a "Jedi Academy"
-Kylo Ren's attack on the Jedi "wasn't that long ago" and was "more recent than 14/15 years"
-Therefore unless the child Rey we saw in the vision is supposed to be older than 5 or 6, she was left on Jakku before the attack
-Kylo tells Rey in the novel "It is you!" not because he recognizes her from his past but because he recognizes her as the one who experienced an awakening.
Also, the fact that Rey sees something in a vision does not mean she was present. We already know this from the first thing in the vision being Bespin.
-Luke's Jedi shouldn't be thought of as a "Jedi Academy"
-Kylo Ren's attack on the Jedi "wasn't that long ago" and was "more recent than 14/15 years"
-Therefore unless the child Rey we saw in the vision is supposed to be older than 5 or 6, she was left on Jakku before the attack
-Kylo tells Rey in the novel "It is you!" not because he recognizes her from his past but because he recognizes her as the one who experienced an awakening.
Also, the fact that Rey sees something in a vision does not mean she was present. We already know this from the first thing in the vision being Bespin.
Nazgul_Hunter
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A subtle moment I caught during my second viewing: when they first approach May's place and Ray goes "I never knew the was this much green in the whole galaxy". Han gives her a half sorry half apologetic look like "I know kid, I'm sorry what we did to you."
Obviously followed by maz asking Han who the girl is and an abrupt cut right after that.
Obviously followed by maz asking Han who the girl is and an abrupt cut right after that.
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