[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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I imagine this has been covered, but this is my first time popping in to the OT...
Was anyone else super bummed with how limited a role the gentleman from the Raid films had in the movie?
When I saw that bit of casting news come up I was so pumped for the possibilities! I didn't really follow the film though so I missed the part where J.J. Abrams eventually mentioned their part would be super minor
Small thing but it made me sad lol.
Was anyone else super bummed with how limited a role the gentleman from the Raid films had in the movie?
When I saw that bit of casting news come up I was so pumped for the possibilities! I didn't really follow the film though so I missed the part where J.J. Abrams eventually mentioned their part would be super minor
Small thing but it made me sad lol.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
I'd like to attribute a lot of this movie's success to nailing BB-8.
That thing is the new adorable character people eat up.
That thing is the new adorable character people eat up.
I imagine this has been covered, but this is my first time popping in to the OT...
Was anyone else super bummed with how limited a role the gentleman from the Raid films had in the movie?
When I saw that bit of casting news come up I was so pumped for the possibilities! I didn't really follow the film though so I missed the part where J.J. Abrams eventually mentioned their part would be super minor
Small thing but it made me sad lol.
I'm thinking maybe the guy in the storm trooper outfit who went up against finn when finn had the saber was a raid actor too.
Don't go out on a catwalk with that kid.
My 6 year old son got the full Kylo Ren costume with his plastic lightsaber.
Every time I turn a corner of the house I'm getting stabbed in the heart with that thing and my son yelling out "THANK YOU".
We've seen it 3 times now
Starsailor
Banned
Minions were boring. I'm glad that this tiny robot take the price. And i live in France and it's even more invading in our life because Minions are french cartoon.
They're everywhere like the rabbits from ubisoft 5-6 years ago...uurk
The Librarian
Banned
I'd say it's expanding the audience, which was done in more than one way. BB8, as you said, and Rey, who has enjoyed a lot of success with Star Wars traditional audiences, but has brought in a lot of women.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
I wonder if they changed Finn's designation in the French version? The scene where Poe gives him his name is so good, but when I watched it (original English dub) I couldn't help but think it must be kinda awkward in the French dub. (Since FN is the name of the country's main far-right party.)
My 6 year old son got the full Kylo Ren costume with his plastic lightsaber.
Every time I turn a corner of the house I'm getting stabbed in the heart with that thing and my son yelling out "THANK YOU".
We've seen it 3 times now
That's amazing haha
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
My 6 year old son got the full Kylo Ren costume with his plastic lightsaber.
Every time I turn a corner of the house I'm getting stabbed in the heart with that thing and my son yelling out "THANK YOU".
We've seen it 3 times now
Star Wars. Inspiring patricide.
I'd be scared if I were you
John Boyega said that the Stormtrooper who fought him was played by his trainer, who is chinese, at least that's what he said in one of the korean interviews.
Star Wars. Inspiring patricide.
I'd be scared if I were you
The face of fear !!
yeaaaah man you better git gud with your lightsaber skills. your son is coming for you.
Charles Foster Kane
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Starsailor
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well no one capted that when i was on cinema but others friends told me that there was some laugh.
But they laughed because Poe was like "heeeeeee ......ok i change that name" . Like "omg no you can't have this name after leaving a far-right army"
You ever have a plastic lightsaber fight with a 6 year old?
They bust the shit out of your knuckles. I need chain mail gloves when we do battle.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
You know, this is exactly what the Plinkett reviews talked about. Kids wanted to be Luke, Han; no need to put stupid kids in the movie to make it relatable to them.
Kids wanna be Kylo Ren, Poe, Rey, and Finn now.
Though I'm not sure being friendzoned as hard is inspiring
Kids wanna be Kylo Ren, Poe, Rey, and Finn now.
Though I'm not sure being friendzoned as hard is inspiring
The face of fear !!
Hahaha awesome
The Librarian
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This isn't directed at you specifically, but I really dislike the term "friendzoned." A woman is under no obligation to like any man she meets. We're don't survey every man we meet and designate which are suitable partners and which are friends.You know, this is exactly what the Plinkett reviews talked about. Kids wanted to be Luke, Han; no need to put stupid kids in the movie to make it relatable to them.
Kids wanna be Kylo Ren, Poe, Rey, and Finn now.
Though I'm not sure being friendzoned as hard is inspiring
Charles Foster Kane
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excelsiorlef
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It was to establish how powerful it was when Ren takes one to the gut
From an article that was linked here
I dig that.
The face of fear !!
I hope my maybe future child will get as awesome as your son. But still..watch him though, just to be sure
Dubbedinenglish
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The animated mini series isn't, the TV show is.
Dubbedinenglish
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My only complaint was that it should've had some massive kick to it. Han fires it like a regular blaster.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
The 2D cartoon from 2003 in not canon:
The 3D cartoon starting from 2008 is still canon.
excelsiorlef
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Dunno. It's blaster physics so who knows. I think the effect of the blast on the bad guys was enough.
Han has put about a million skill points into blasters, he's operating at legendary levels that even Finn can't come close to. There's a place in the film where he just extends his arm and shoots a trooper off to the right without ever looking at his target.
Freeza Under The Shower
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Much like the original death star, I do believe we are supposed to assume it can actually move around. Because if it cannot, then it could also never actually hit any planet, since that would mean its beam would have to be fired at LUDICROUS SPEED since space (yes, people, that includes fictional "the entire galaxy can fit in my back yard" space, thank you) is just too goddamn big.
Speaking of which, aside from the rebels suddenly appearing in what appears to be the Death Star Mark 3's sensor range (couldn't they have just blown them up instead?), if it was firing at light speed or above, it could just have used a minor asteroid to get the same effect. So, for this "Solar Flare!" to work, even in the fictional context, it would have had to have moved to the system it actually bombarded at sub-light speed (though if you calculated the speed shown in the film, you would probably still wind up with above FTL speeds, but that's where it enters nitpicking).
You know, it's geography like this that is actually the reason why A New Hope is the superior movie. Also, the trench run was a natural consequence of what we were told in the movie of the death star's design, thereby building a natural tension arch and completing Luke's character arch in one move, which is excellent in terms of screen writing.
TFA is nowhere near that level of elegance, since the starkiller's flaw isn't even an overlooked feature, but a straight-up intentional design flaw. I was actually wondering why the dialogue said they had 'lost half the fleet' when the only fighters were x-wings. Any capital ship could have basically just warped in and rammed the shit out of that starkiller's rectum to make it poop itself, so that was weird.
But this is a JJ Abrams movie, so looking for plotholes isn't exactly a challenge. I'm fine with it for Star Wars. *looks over to smouldering corpse of Star trek* Absolutely fine with it.
Well the official word from the books is that Republic got established, but they don't want to pick an unnecessary fight with the First Order (made up of remnants of the Empire) despite General Leia's warnings that they're becoming more and more powerful. The Republic believes Leia to be an alarmist which leads Leia to have to make her own army: the Resistance.
Maybe JJ felt like the movie was already too filled with things and didn't feel like this explanation was necessary to enjoy the movie.
Kitschkraft
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From an article that was linked here
I love how that camrip is getting so much usage everywhere lol.
Cot damn, people are gonna go batshit when the blu-ray comes out.
I wonder if people will still use the cam rip ala James Franco "so good" gif.
Future PhaZe
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The face of fear !!
adorable
ViewtifulJC
Banned
legit best new character tbh
Episode 8 needs a significant portion of its runtime to be dedicated to BB-8
Republic of Ezo
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A few people in this and other GAF threads have called it better than ANH and ESB. People are not necessarily calling it flawless but too many people are willing to pretend the flaws aren't there or are perhaps even perks (it's not a rehash... it rhymes!).
Republic of Ezo
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I agree with this. Honestly I would've liked to see just a new story involving these new characters rather than a rehash centered around all of the old ones.
excelsiorlef
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A few people. Oh heavens to betsy.
It's my favorite because the NT trio is more relateable to me right now.
As far as personal enjoyment. TFA is equal to ANH to me with Empire being the best. It's an enjoyable fun SW movie.
The fact that people keep harping on this "eventually you'll see how bad the movie is" is asinine. For me personally I don't go see bad movies 3 times. It's enjoyable, Fun it has great reviews and strong word of mouth. The movie isn't perfect by any means.
But there seems to be this segment of people who didn't enjoy the movie trying to tell people who actually liked the movie that they're wrong and eventually they'll see why.
People need to accept that some people will like something you don't and vice versa.
WadiumArcadium
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I've noticed a lot of people who never really clicked with the OT have called TFA their favourite. Obviously it contains a lot of the same elements as the OT, but with a different set of characters that must appeal to some people more.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Watched it today. Enjoyed it. Good, fun blockbuster. I'm not a fanboy though, so the fan service moments had less of an impact on me, but I can imagine the fans being knee deep in love syrup at those scenes.
HOWEVER....THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS!
Firstly, why were Mad Dog and Rama from The Raid films even in this? I remember there was even a PR released mentioning the Raid guys had been cast in the film. WHY, OH WHY, were they used in such a shitty fashion?! JJ fucked this one up. There was a potential for them kicking all sorts of asses (which they can), and all we got was Mad Dog's two lines and them running away and getting eaten by some CGI motherfucker?! Really ticked me off. Was waiting for their appearance, and ended up getting shit.
Second, movie needed more of Oscar Isaac. That's all I'll say.Guy's a great actor, and they under-used film quite a bit.
P.S: Love how Hollywood keeps fucking Nazis in the asses with the Supreme Leader thing, and then the Hitler-ish speech and arms being raised. Too funny.
HOWEVER....THERE WERE SOME PROBLEMS!
Firstly, why were Mad Dog and Rama from The Raid films even in this? I remember there was even a PR released mentioning the Raid guys had been cast in the film. WHY, OH WHY, were they used in such a shitty fashion?! JJ fucked this one up. There was a potential for them kicking all sorts of asses (which they can), and all we got was Mad Dog's two lines and them running away and getting eaten by some CGI motherfucker?! Really ticked me off. Was waiting for their appearance, and ended up getting shit.
Second, movie needed more of Oscar Isaac. That's all I'll say.Guy's a great actor, and they under-used film quite a bit.
P.S: Love how Hollywood keeps fucking Nazis in the asses with the Supreme Leader thing, and then the Hitler-ish speech and arms being raised. Too funny.
I said this yesterday. I'm not shocked that some may enjoy this movie more simply for the cast. They are all great.
Also people need to realize that while some people have watched SW and enjoy the movies. They may just enjoy this one more. People who go into SW late may feel the OT is dated.
This is also the first SW movie for a lot of people. Kids, adults, etc. They may really enjoy this movie. They may go back and watch the others but this could still be their favorite after that.
Different strokes for different folks and new generation of SW fan is being born. Sooner rather than later this new majority will quiet the people that constantly bitch about the prequels and the people who feel no movie in the OT can ever be compared against.
Her theme is beautiful, and so is her intro sequence.
While this may have the weakest score of the 7 films, there are some beautiful moments were the picture on film and the music meet that gave me chills.
One of my favorites being when Rey force pulls the lightsaber away from Ren in the final battle, that music, the snow, lighting, and the shot itself coming together. Pure awesomeness, it has somewhat of a cheesy chosen one undertone to it, but it's Star Wars so whateva.
Starsailor
Banned
They will be in part of the whole star wars project from now to 2020. That mean choregraphy for combats AND acting. They're workng on Star Wars Rogue One, but maybe we will meet those guys again in VIII and IX (i think it could be cool that Rey, Finn and Chewbacca allies with them)
BocoDragon
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It's not about individuals liking it. It's about the zeitgeist of how this film is perceieved by culture at large. There was a moment after the reviews hit when it seemed like a modern day classic in the making, but it seems clear to me at least (feel free to disagree) that this was a temporary moment in time in a hype bubble.
It's not going down as a new A+ classic.. You already see the second week viewers coming into threads like this and saying "that was it..? It was okay...."
Good movie. Like Captain America Winter Soldier or Hunger Games 2 or whatever. Not exactly a new ESB or Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc.
CoffeeJanitor
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vocal minority etc
excelsiorlef
Member
You're basing your opinion on the 10-15 people who have posted saying it was just ok?
Dunno why you're so obsessed with being a wet blanket.
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