I love PT Palpatine and I don't want Snooky to be Plagueis. I want the pandering to stop, OT or PT. No more fan service-y "hey look! Remember THIS from the other movies?"
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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I love PT Palpatine and I don't want Snooky to be Plagueis. I want the pandering to stop, OT or PT. No more fan service-y "hey look! Remember THIS from the other movies?"
if only.
Wouldn't it actually be like Anakin gets stripped of his rank and cast out of the Order then Padme has to deal with huge political pressure from the incident and the massive upheaval from the most powerful man in the galaxy being a crazy evil dude.
Baraka in the White House
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Why does Ren keep thumping his side toward the end?
No. A Kenobi, maybe, most likely she is related to Luke or her parents are unknown.
But Han and Leia? No chance. It makes no sense at all.
To keep the anger and adrenaline up.
Laughing Banana
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Uhhhh... did you somehow miss the part where Chewbacca shot him post him killing Han....?
excelsiorlef
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He got a bowcaster shot to it. Ripped a hole in him
"...the Prophecy wasn't told in its entirety..."
That'll be $10 billion, Kathleen. Thanks.
The Force has only ever been the light since the Emperor and Vader (with his return to the light) were taken out. Now Kylo Ren is potentially leveling the scale again for the Dark Side. So, someone in the Skywalker bloodline is certainly balancing things out vs. the other Skywalker.
I'd like to think that perhaps Rey is now the one that could bring balance to the Force, not by choosing a direct path to light or dark, but embracing aspects of each one. While she's overall "good", it doesn't mean she's pure.
I think Windu was a Force practitioner that teetered on the Dark Side, but is able to control himself, or something along those lines, this is from the EU/Legends stuff, so it's not canon now as far as I know.
Using the flare ups of pain to keep himself focused I think. And general hyping himself up.
Rentahamster
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Do the books explain how a mere fragment of what was once the Empire builds a structure that is 5 times larger than what the actual Empire built at the height of its power? And with hardly anyone noticing/caring?
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I suspected it had something to do with that but I can't imagine how punching a gunshot wound is supposed to make it feel better.
OricWindstar
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He's channeling the pain to further tap into the Dark Side.
DiipuSurotu
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I like to think that Kylo was trying to beat the good out of him. Like, he killed his own father but he realized to his horror that there is STILL good in him and he was angry at it.
excelsiorlef
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They no longer had a galaxy to run so they pooled all their resources to build ir. Have probably been building it for at least a decade if not two. It's probably why they were able to convince the Republic they weren't a threat because they weren't doing much but build that thing.
And because it's a planet they built it in a far away system where no one would look for them.
Not from the books, just what I guess.
DiipuSurotu
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What if the Starkiller Base started out as an Imperial project? That way the First Order only had to finish it rather than build it from scratch. That's complete speculation on my part, mind.
Mat-triX
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While I really liked it as a whole, I'm disappointed that it retreads lot of A New Hope (much like Fury Road retreads Road Warrior).
I'd ultimately be fine with this if VIII is NOT a retread of Empire Strike Back, but since Rey and Luke have met...i'm guessing it will retread the Yoda/Luke story beat at least.
I'd ultimately be fine with this if VIII is NOT a retread of Empire Strike Back, but since Rey and Luke have met...i'm guessing it will retread the Yoda/Luke story beat at least.
Makes the OT kind of weird to retcon that in. The Emperor was positively giddy about the Death Star as it was. He'd have died of maniacal laughter if he'd also ordered one an order of magnitude bigger.
I think Snoke is the answer to all of that. He's still a big mystery and he seems to be the leader of the FO so maybe he had resources?
Also the remnants of the Empire retreated to the Outer Rim territories right? Makes sensed they would be able to keep Starkiller base a secret if it was developed outside the eyes of the Republic.
Also the remnants of the Empire retreated to the Outer Rim territories right? Makes sensed they would be able to keep Starkiller base a secret if it was developed outside the eyes of the Republic.
LookAtMeGo
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I think of it like Germany at the end of WW1 compared to Germany at the Start of WW2. That was only over the span of a few decades and they came back stronger than ever. And that was after the Treaty of Versailles.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - Why Does Everyone Want to Go Back to Jakku?!
the black pearl
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theory: Snoke and The Maz are members of the same alien race.
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I think they'll go back to Jakku in VIII, there's probably more to that planet in store for Rey/Luke. Would also make Maz's line literally true "Whoever you are waiting for on Jakku is never coming back, but there's someone else who can. Luke".
If Rey's staff is really an old relic, Luke might want to go there and see what's up.
If Rey's staff is really an old relic, Luke might want to go there and see what's up.
Giant Panda
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Just saw it. It was a damn retread of the episode 4. The acting by Rey and Fin was good but none of the story was able to resonate emotionally. I'm surprised this movie reviewed as well as it did.
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Because it's a great movie.
Ya, I really liked the movie too but it's basically a retelling of A New Hope and bits of Empire. Also the climax felt a bit weak to me along with the final fight being average. Like it feels like Kylo is all talk and no bite, I never felt he was a real threat even after he killed Solo.
excelsiorlef
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Brilliant. Not once was it forced.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - Why Does Everyone Want to Go Back to Jakku?!
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #3) - STOP TAKING MY HAND
Escape Goat
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How does Rei go from total Force newbie to lightsaber duelist? She didnt know shit a few hours ago.
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it?"
Pretty much Rey just accepts it all faster than Luke ever did. That said. Kylo being injured/underestimating her definitely played a role in it.
He's not as powerful as he lets on.
Mat-triX
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From the beginning of this thread.
R2-D2 is old and busted. BB-8 is the new hotness.
Grover Cleveland
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Kylo saying the word "Force" sent her into the Avatar State.
But seriously, the movie makes it seem like she had some sort of training that's been repressed somehow and is now coming back to her.
Rabid Wolverine
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While I was bummed we didn't see him more than those five seconds he has done a lot of work to get in shape hopefully to kick some ass in the next film.
From a recent Time Magazine article:
TFA was the appetizer.
Next is the main course. Cant wait for more Hamil.
excelsiorlef
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And if you watch the fight she parries away 90% and when the force take over she basically street fights him a bit. Her big initial offensive move is to kick him in the gut. The exact type of kick she does on Jakku. Her sword fighting style is pure staff like. Her best hits except the disarm at the end are straight stabs with the tip of the saber exactly how you'd thrust a staff. She basically throws down a force guided unorthodox style that he wasn't quite ready for.
Astral Dog
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NOOO!!!
banefirelord
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When the X-Wing cavalry showed up at Maz's place I close to teared up. Reinforcements arriving in the most badass way possible always gets me right in the tear ducts.
I find it trying that strong female leads are prefered to be lesbian, instead of writing a women who wins over a man by being totally awesome.
The force is dumb bullshit, and dude was fucked up.
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Cow Mengde
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I know. It just felt like he did all of that for nothing. We have to wait another 2 years before we see him. It felt funny. Like out of the old cast, Mark Hamill was in the spotlight the most. At least that's what it felt like to us. It's not like the movie promised to have him or anything. It was just kind of weird.
Dubbedinenglish
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Hopefully among these:
http://www.thewrap.com/star-wars-ep...iguez-tatiana-maslany-olivia-cooke-exclusive/
LOL I hope it's not a love interest, which would be even sadder. Black leads gets to be the bait and switch, can't be equal to the lead, can't be romantically involved with the lead, becomes the comedic relief. Maybe he'll be lucky enough to be back to sanitation by IX.
Well at least for me and the audience I was with the Finn character totally stole the show from Rey. We actually had a few concerned gasps at the lightsaber fight. Hopefully he doesn't get crowded out.
So is the resistance basically the Republics task force? Because the Republic is the controlling government and are described as propping up the Resistance correct?
It's possible they are love interests, but it's not like Finn is ONLY the comedic relief. he's scared, brave, etc. all at the same time.
I do agree with you however that I hope he doesn't get relagated to that sort of background character that only serves to make Rey look stronger as a character. Finn is a lead. They need to treat him like one as well. He doesn't even have to end up with Rey. Those two work well together on screen. But he needs to come into his own. The writers better do him justice.
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Nothing is impossible for Supreme Leader Chancellor Snoke.
May his head crevasse be eternally distracting.
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