Wkd Box Office 12•25-27•15 - Star Wars never changes. 1B+ global BO for new record

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Has anyone figured out, why Star Wars has so much more pull with American audiences than the rest of the world? At a glance it wouldn't appear like a series that should behave that way.

Well, it's not like it's underperforming overseas, per se- it's probably going to be the third-biggest overseas gross ever. It's just that America loves it so exceedingly much that it's skewing the percentages. I'm pretty sure the original Star Wars theatrical release has a lot to do with that.
 
Has anyone figured out, why Star Wars has so much more pull with American audiences than the rest of the world? At a glance it wouldn't appear like a series that should behave that way.
American audiences have been hammered with references to it for decades, not to mention EU stuff that is very US centric, also remember that "nerd culture" is a US thing, the rest of the world is ok with almost every blockbuster, Star Wars does very good overseas, it's not a super cultural phenomenon, but it's a great blockbuster, one of the biggest for sure.
 
American audiences have been hammered with references to it for decades, not to mention EU stuff that is very US centric, also remember that "nerd culture" is a US thing, the rest of the world is ok with almost every blockbuster, Star Wars does very good overseas, it's not a super cultural phenomenon, but it's a great blockbuster, one of the biggest for sure.

Star Wars is doing comparable numbers (adjusting for size differences in each market) in the UK, Australia, and Canada, so maybe it's more of an English world thing.


Deadline is saying 149M for the weekend which lines up with Rth lower estimate for Sunday.

It stinks that we will lose that 2 weekends over $150M stat if that's true.

That does happen to be the exact number I came up with for the weekend last Wednesday though. A softer Sunday than I predicted compensated for the slightly stronger Friday and Saturday.


I am going to guess about 30% average drops over the weekdays this week. That would be $107M, or just under $650M by the end of Dec 31st. That probably puts Avatar just out of reach by the end of Weekend 3 unless the weekdays are stronger than my estimate.
 
Well, it's not like it's underperforming overseas, per se- it's probably going to be the third-biggest overseas gross ever. It's just that America loves it so exceedingly much that it's skewing the percentages. I'm pretty sure the original Star Wars theatrical release has a lot to do with that.

American audiences have been hammered with references to it for decades, not to mention EU stuff that is very US centric, also remember that "nerd culture" is a US thing, the rest of the world is ok with almost every blockbuster, Star Wars does very good overseas, it's not a super cultural phenomenon, but it's a great blockbuster, one of the biggest for sure.

I do understand that it does do very well worldwide. But I, certainly somewhat americanophile, as a European fail to see why it's doing so much (comparatively speaking) worse than in the US. Especially when comparing Star Wars to the superhero movies or even Transformers, which seem way more us-centric than Star Wars. Or am I just blinded by my perception of what would suit which audience? But why? I... I probably need an art historian to explain that one to me.
 
Star Wars is performing like Star Wars in the US and like a big blockbuster everywhere else.

That's the best explanation one can give.
 
NOT A RECORD DOHOHOHOHOOO - Nikki Finke

Disney should just bump up the number and tell anyone that questions it to suck their mouse

Disney is known for not padding numbers. They let Gnomio and Juliet die at $99,967,670 domestic. Hercules was taken out of theatres less than $1M shy of the $100M PR barrier too.
 
Sorry Point Break fans. Passing the $10M barrier was a pipe dream. Actual is down 5% to $9.81M

Sisters increased a bit to $14.19M, giving it a second weekend that's 2% higher than its opening weekend.
 
Calling it a remake is going way too far, and while the article makes a few good points the author goes along with this:


Which is complete nonsense. There are several visual homages but it's stylistically distinct from ANH.

While i don´t agree with that line, the remake does not have to be word for word or scene for scene identical. Most of the movie is similar to ANH, from plot to characters, to journey.
 
Actually we do have two IMAXes in Vienna. Donauplex and Apollo. What is true though is that only the Apollo one regularly shows OVs.
And to add to your observations: Star Wars appears to sell best in IMAX OV (one showing per day since release) followed bei non OV IMAX. But for non IMAX showings there's plenty of tickets still available. At almost all times and good seats as well.

Yeah, that's right, I forgot about Donauplex. I guess being far away from me and no OV put it off my radar.

And yes, all the "Real 3d" shows don't have too many bookings on the following days.
 
damn that sisters meta critic score disapoints me, i thought it would be a decent movie to see with the gf. plus i love pohler and fey.

maybe ill just convince her to go see star wars again instead
 
Revised estimates for The Big Short and Daddy's home are basically the same as yesterday. I'm still surprised that Daddy's Home made close to $39M last weekend. Granted I don't really watch much TV, but that's one of those films that I didn't even know existed until pretty close to release.
 
American audiences have been hammered with references to it for decades, not to mention EU stuff that is very US centric, also remember that "nerd culture" is a US thing, the rest of the world is ok with almost every blockbuster, Star Wars does very good overseas, it's not a super cultural phenomenon, but it's a great blockbuster, one of the biggest for sure.

Also, the USD is extremely strong at the moment compared to many currencies, due a few factors.
 
Force Awakens is definitely not a reboot.

The term I would use is "palate cleanser", as it washed the taste of shit left by the prequels away. The franchise is now fresh and minty clean.

At the minimum it's a sequel first and foremost.
 
Updated Estimate for Star Wars: The Force Awakens is $149.2M.

I think that will remain the official number until after the holidays.
 
Has anyone figured out, why Star Wars has so much more pull with American audiences than the rest of the world?

My theory: for a lot of us, the originals were released when we were kids, and then we got the toys, and we spent hours playing with the toys. This was long enough ago that home video game systems were rare and exotic, you had maybe 20 channels if you were lucky, and obviously there was no internet, so by default we played with Star Wars toys. That creates a very strong connection that probably isn't possible with entertainment options what they are now. Now we want to take our own kids.
 
Rth posted the breakdown of the weekend actuals. Drops from the same days last week are in brackets:

Friday - $49,325,663 (-59%, -22% without Thursday previews)
Saturday - $56,731,532 (-17%)
Sunday - $43,145,665 (-29%)

Weekend total - $149,202,860 (-40%)
 
Rth posted the breakdown of the weekend actuals. Drops from the same days last week are in brackets:

Friday - $49,325,663 (-59%, -22% without Thursday previews)
Saturday - $56,731,532 (-17%)
Sunday - $43,145,665 (-29%)

Weekend total - $149,202,860 (-40%)

What's the week over week drop without the Thursday previews? The daily excludes them but the weekly has it in the mix. Looks like it should be around 20%.
 
lol, that domestic prediction. It should surpass those numbers within a week.

It's on 500m worldwide after a week. It's definitely making more than 700m.

It's going to be right around those numbers by this time next weekend.

Wait, what? I double-checked and this is definitely not a thread from 2014. It's at $544m in the US after a week, it would basically have to head to the dollar theaters right now for that to happen.

I love that you put 600M as the lower end of your range. It will be at 600M before the next weekend and over 700M after that same weekend.

A brain fart on my part, as I misread the current 544 million domestic total as 454 million.

I've since revised my domestic gross to be ~ 680-740 million.

WW I've left it at less than 1.7 billion.
 
A brain fart on my part, as I misread the current 544 million domestic total as 454 million.

I've since revised my domestic gross to be ~ 680-740 million.

WW I've left it at less than 1.7 billion.
You are seriously doubling down?? It's going to be over 700 mil domestic by next week. Next week! You have no idea whatsoever what you are taking about here man.

It will be well over 600 mil before Friday and is on track to do another 100 million this upcoming weekend.

Your high end prediction will be over little over 3 weeks on the market.


I am completely baffled by this post. Doubling down after everyone explains why you are waaaaaaaaaay off. You are staking a high end for a movie that will be past that point 3 weeks into release. Wow.
 
A brain fart on my part, as I misread the current 544 million domestic total as 454 million.

I've since revised my domestic gross to be ~ 680-740 million.

WW I've left it at less than 1.7 billion.

It's going to pass your revised prediction by next week.
 
How much do people think Star Wars will do 'overseas'? Most of the discussion and estimates have been about domestic totals. Will it settle around slightly less than one billion overseas or somewhere around there?
 
How much do people think Star Wars will do 'overseas'? Most of the discussion and estimates have been about domestic totals. Will it settle around slightly less than one billion overseas?

It will make more than a billion overseas. It's doubtful it will pass Titanic's overseas gross, though.
 
I guess I'm just a little stunned that FF7 may be (though again maybe SW beats it handily) more popular than Star Wars outside the US. The FF franchise got really big huh?
 
How much do people think Star Wars will do 'overseas'? Most of the discussion and estimates have been about domestic totals. Will it settle around slightly less than one billion overseas or somewhere around there?

Less than 1.7 billion.

Star Wars is a cultural phenomena mostly concentrated in the West, specifically in NA.

Jurassic world, for instance, performed well WW because who doesn't like dinosaurs?

Please tell me he is not a Cameron fan, please.

I watched Avatar in theatres 3 times.

All in 3D.
 
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Can someone reverse this gif lol

God, I hated what Lucas did to the originals. Seriously WTF.
 
Less than 1.7 billion.

Star Wars is a cultural phenomena mostly concentrated in the West, specifically in NA.

Jurassic world as well as it did WW because who doesn't like dinosaurs?
You do realize it's already outdoing Jurassic World overall for the countries it is in right? 1 billion is locked overseas. That is NOT in question for this film.

And your beyond insane domestic total that will be surpassed in less than a WEEK is literally impossible unless the world ends this week.


How are you still doubling down on your final total when the domestic high end of your prediction is going to be crushed in less than a week and the film you compare it to as being lesser it is doing better than it overseas overall.

I can't understand how so someone can be so stubborn when presented with evidence. It's like we are dealing with the Donald Trump of box office predictions here or something.
 
You do realize it's already outdoing Jurassic World overall for the countries it is in right? 1 billion is 100% locked overseas. And your beyond insane domestic total that will be surpassed in less than a WEEK is literally impossible unless the world ends this week. How are you still doubling down on your final total when the domestic high end of your prediction is going to be crushed in less than a week and the film you compare it to as being lesser it is doing better than it overseas overall.

Where do you specifically see SW ending up in domestic totals?

I'll budge on domestic totals after this coming weeks performance, as I'm under the belief that SW hype will be exhausted now that we're in a post-holiday period.

WW I won't budge on, because I don't see a Space Opera having the type of legs or general appeal that dinosaurs do.
 
Where do you specifically see SW ending up in domestic totals?
It will be well over 700 mil by this time next week. That is absolutely and 100% locked and that is only week three. 875 mil is the floor right now. I see a 930-940 mil domestic finish.

The average predictions range between 900-1 billion domestically of late.
 
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