RomanticHeroX
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You can play FF through FFX-2, plus Tactics, all on the Vita without most of them looking like garbage.
It seems Square-Enix is sitting on FFX-X2 HD PC version
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You can play FF through FFX-2, plus Tactics, all on the Vita without most of them looking like garbage.
Self_Destructive
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Damn, you're right. I never really thought about it like that. Vita IS probably the best system currently to play FF. And yea, the earlier titles look great on the Vita's small screen.
Koutsoubas
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Deer God this game is horriblol! I could never play it. And I tried really hard!
ReDelicious
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I want this more than any other port or even unreleased game they're working on currently.
It seems it sold 750k worldwide. So, Steam sales are not zero in comparison and pretty sure welcomed.
GhostTrick
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Nah, I think your taking your numbers from a certain chartz site. No official numbers for now.
LouisaFerre
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There are very clear reasons as to why FFXV was in development for so long. The lack of resources dedicated to it after the initial announcement. The difficulty with crystal tools engine that negatively impacted FFXIII, which the company was scrambling to get out the door so VsXIII was effectively not even being made. That Vs. XIII was only getting off the ground as SE was scrambling to rush FFXIV out then the subsequent panic to fix it. The decision to make it into a mainline title because they didn't have another XV lined up, the decision to push it to the next generation of hardware, then subsequently cancel the PS3 version, then the decision to move it to the Luminous engine which wasn't even fully developed, in many ways requiring all the progress already made with the game to be redone.
Who cares about ports? The amount of resources spent on those is completely inconsequential compared to all the other issues that directly siphoned programmers or members that actually had experience with the development tools XV was using.
I bet he was speaking about how SE were not that willing to release some of their main titles outside playstation console for a long time. Wich was moslty true.
Fine, I'll bite.
Business Divisions. Square isn't a singular work force with a bell-and-rope alarm in the middle of the room where anything that crops up causes someone to ring it, making everyone drop what they're doing and clamber over each other to attend to the issue. The business divisions are discrete teams with their own hierarchies, schedules and goals. And ports have generally nothing to do with BD2 which has been working on FFXV for a while.
First you said 'is', now you're saying 'was'. Decide on your tense. And no, it wasn't 'extremely recently'. Additionally, what you're describing isn't even xenophobia.
The Last Remnant was on Steam.
???
FFXII, FFXIII, FFXIII-2 and LR had demos.
As above, they've also being doing this. I think you're noticing this for specifically FFXV just because of how high-profile news surrounding the game is.
R10Neymarfan
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Mobile FF port were outsourced to DotEmu. XIII trilogy was handled by Business Div 1 which is not the FFXV team. They are all Business Div 2.
My guess is DotEMU is doing the IX remaster and subsequent PS4 ports later. Business Div 1 will finish the port over of FFX-X2 HD. My theory is that LR PC caused a massive delay in the release schedule since it was 6months later then they anticipated.
Square is somewhat trying with PC on their Japanese side. Eidos is pretty much covered, although I am worried about RoTTR performance with Nvidia/Gameworks rumors and Nixxes apparently not doing the port.
My guess is DotEMU is doing the IX remaster and subsequent PS4 ports later. Business Div 1 will finish the port over of FFX-X2 HD. My theory is that LR PC caused a massive delay in the release schedule since it was 6months later then they anticipated.
Square is somewhat trying with PC on their Japanese side. Eidos is pretty much covered, although I am worried about RoTTR performance with Nvidia/Gameworks rumors and Nixxes apparently not doing the port.
uncredited male
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Won't someone think of FFXV's development?
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They always lose the source codes and then the whole FFXV team has to make everything from scratch. Of course they'll delay XV!
In fact, Falk is working on the music for the IX port because they lost everything!
They always lose the source codes and then the whole FFXV team has to make everything from scratch. Of course they'll delay XV!
In fact, Falk is working on the music for the IX port because they lost everything!
Really I heard they had to do a big search where they put all of their game devs on cleaning duty trying to find old source codes lying around?
FF Seraphim
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This needs to happen! If I can have FFT on some reliable hardware that I know I can always go back to, it would make my day.
Yes.
I want to play it with JP audio with ENG subs.
After years of playing the ENG version, having JP audio would make it a relatively fresh experience.
dickroach
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I mean... yeah, why wouldn't they? they released amazing games for 15 years or whatever. might as well milk em.
b/c popular opinion of FF PC ports
Day 0.
And the most expensive CE for a new game in Ivalice written by Matsuno. Retains the freedom and variety of classes but take clues from Divinity combat system.
GhostTrick
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AcceptableGhost
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they are investigating possible ways to fuck up the port in some way
Eh, who knows
It'll be a DOTA2 item and you'll all buy it heheehehehehehe
I would too...
MillionStabs
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I just bought the Vita version for 22$, so I'll probably wait for a sale to DD
You do understand that all of these "horrible amounts of ports" have been released in a fairly long period of time? Releasing maybe 2 or at most 3 ports of old FFs per year has absolutely zero impact on the development & release of new FF games. Even when a lot of work had to be done on FFX's HD port because the source code was lost, they released FFXIV ARR, Lightning Returns & FFX | X-2 HD Collection within four months of each other. The struggles with FFX | X-2 HD didn't affect either game's development at all. If anything, the development of XIII-2 delayed the start of X | X-2's development because Kitase & Toriyama were too busy finishing XIII-2 so they couldn't start X HD until they were finished with XIII-2. So it's actually the OTHER way around than what you're claiming. If the decision comes between a new game's development & a port's development, they'll always put the new game ahead of the port. That's partly why FFX HD's development took so long.
If that's what it takes to make a compnay non-xenophobic, then pretty much all publishers are xenophobic to a degree. And no, they weren't xenophobic. They tried to make their games more appealing to the western markets (in all the wrong ways). They listened to plenty of feedback. They perhaps didn't have public surveys, but with each game they released they did gather feedback on the things people around forums & such didn't like (& what they did). You can see this in how Kingdom Hearts evolved within the years. A lot of the directions the gameplay & some design decisions have been taken to has been a direct result of listening to fans on what they didn't like about the previous games.
Given how other companies tend to treat their back catalogues, it's nice to see SE making sure everyone can play their past games.
I am almost crying of laughter.
One thing I'm looking forward to if there's a PC port: mods to restore Tidus and Yuna's old faces. They weren't perfect, but they at least matched the animations properly.
demos aren't new to Square
VII (came with a PS1 game that name escapes me)
VIII (Pizza Hut demo)
XII (came with DQ)
XIII (came with advent children)
No.
Nothing confirmed but it's pretty safe to assume it is coming. But most console centric publishers see the PC as a way to prolong the tail end of a product's lifecycle. I would say a year after the console versions is a reasonable expectation. It will get better over time as some, like Bandai Namco, will see that a good day and date port can do wonders for revenue.
Good assumption to make at this point considering the precedent.
The biggest obstacle to that is that FF12 doesn't have any release on any other platform yet. If they are working on a "HD" version of that, then the chances are pretty good IMHO. And really, why wouldn't they. It will be profitable.
Of course they're sat on it. They've been porting all the rest to OC, they just recently ported this to PS3 and PS4 so its not like they will want to leave this one out.
I'll get them all on PC. Shame a few look worse with the shitty 3D or sprite changes, but then some look better thanks to higher resolution characters.
I've got them all minus the mmos and 3 on PSP/PS1-4 anyway if I fancy the originals.
I'll get them all on PC. Shame a few look worse with the shitty 3D or sprite changes, but then some look better thanks to higher resolution characters.
I've got them all minus the mmos and 3 on PSP/PS1-4 anyway if I fancy the originals.
agiantenemycrab
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If anything, I think the release of Disgaea on Steam will accelerate the process of Tactics making its way over. I imagine Nippon Ichi is probably planning to bring over their entire back catalogue if Disgaea does well and Square will probably realise there is a demand for this type of game on the PC. Now Vagrant Story on Steam would be a real treat.
Now I'm just waiting for Nintendo to realize the same.
You do realise that Nintendo, unlike SE, sell hardware right? Might as well ask for Sony to put all their games on PC too with your logic.
That's likely to be the first mod. That and dual audio if this doesn't include it.
FFVII:R is not exactly new and is definitely being developed in place of something new. The PC ports of X/X-2 probably aren't affecting their time or money much though, you're right.
UnrealEck
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I think FFX is the most overrated of them all. I'd even go as far as to say it's one of the most overrated JRPGs.
I've still yet to really play X-2 though, so I'd probably buy that.
What I really want is FFXII. Played a bit of it on PCSX2 and I'd love a proper HD remaster of it with a proper new interface, font and so on. The gameplay in XII was enjoyable.
I'm sure it'll come eventually. They seem to have an interest in bringing all the numbered FF games to Steam. Hopefully XV makes it too.
I've still yet to really play X-2 though, so I'd probably buy that.
What I really want is FFXII. Played a bit of it on PCSX2 and I'd love a proper HD remaster of it with a proper new interface, font and so on. The gameplay in XII was enjoyable.
I'm sure it'll come eventually. They seem to have an interest in bringing all the numbered FF games to Steam. Hopefully XV makes it too.
protomouse
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It's fairly safe to say they are attempting to avoid oversaturating PC with FF games, which is smart. Better to just space them out.
Yeah pretty sure they are trying to space them out. So instead of giving us X/2HD after Lightning Returns they gave us that abomination of a 6 port.
No that's deffo 7, but better not derail the thread with that. Not to mention X has the best turn based combat out of any JRPG, it's perfect.
No that's deffo 7, but better not derail the thread with that. Not to mention X has the best turn based combat out of any JRPG, it's perfect.
Vincent Grayson
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If they do release FFT, you can guarantee it'll be a frills-free port of the Android version just like FFIII, IV, V, and VI. You'll be lucky if they remove the touchscreen-oriented UI changes, but they sure as hell won't be adding useful things like mouse support.
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Vincent Grayson
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I could swear I saw something the other day where Tabata came right out and said there's no plans to release on PC at this time.
Because they want double-dippers.