The Free fall continues - Oil dips bellow $32 lowest since 04

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Oil prices fell for a sixth session to a new 12-year low on Monday as slowing growth in China rattled investors' hopes for demand this year and traders increased bets against any near-term recovery.

U.S. West Texas Intermediate (WTI) crude was down $1.55 at $31.61 per barrel by 11:35 a.m. EDT (1635 GMT), having fallen to the lowest level since December 2003. Brent crude futures were down by $1.76 at $31.79 a barrel, after falling to the lowest level since April 2004.
 
And this is how the world burns.

(Surprisingly CO2 emissions dropped year over year, but China's economic troubles are probably a big factor)
 

Not good for anyone.

If your argument is fuck oil and gas industry, great, 10 of thousands of people are without jobs.

If your argument is fuck oil, great, no one will put money into other fuel research when price of the barrel is so low.

If your argument is low gas prices, that seems a bit short sighted.
 
It really hurts trying to purchase anything with the CAD dollar outside Canada. It's super expensive now.

It seems insane to me that a country as large as Canada is so dependent on one industry. I know Harper fucked you guys up good, but Christ.

Hopefully your new PM will be able to diversify things a bit so that you're guarded against these kinds of plunges better.
 
They say gas might hit a dollar a gallon in some places.

Took this picture a week or so ago.

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How is it wrecking the US economy? The US is heavily reliant on gasoline. Shouldn't lower prices mean more money to spend elsewhere?

Fracking and drilling investments is big buissiness. On top of this it'd hurting green industries.

Somewhat offset by transportation costs being lower, but thats a stimulus and short lived.
 
And this is how the world burns.

(Surprisingly CO2 emissions dropped year over year, but China's economic troubles are probably a big factor)

Isn't part of what's driving the price down the fact that alternative energy sources are beginning to pick up?

Note that I'm not saying it's the primary reason, just a contributing factor.
 
Fracking and drilling investments is big buissiness. On top of this it'd hurting green industries.

Somewhat offset by transportation costs being lower, but thats a stimulus and short lived.
How much though is it a part of the US economy? Will the oil investments cause a slowdown of the US economy overall? What about natural gas fracking and drilling? Do oil prices really affect that as well?
 
Isn't part of what's driving the price down the fact that alternative energy sources are beginning to pick up?

Note that I'm not saying it's the primary reason, just a contributing factor.

Small, but on a world wide scale the majority of energy production is still like 90% based on fossils fuels.

The majority reason is two fold; Saudia Arabia is trying to punish Iran just as Iranian oil is coming back into the global markets, while also trying to stop US/Canadian shale from being dug.

Then you have Venezuela and Russia who's economies depend on oil exports, who can't cut production either way. Their problem is they need to export as much as the stuff as possible, but also need to keep supply low and the price high.

It's a worldwide market experiment in game theory.
 
Small, but on a world wide scale the majority of energy production is still like 90% based on fossils fuels.

The majority reason is two fold; Saudia Arabia is trying to punish Iran just as Iranian oil is coming back into the global markets, while also trying to stop US/Canadian shale from being dug.

Then you have Venezuela and Russia who's economies depend on oil exports, who can't cut production either way. Their problem is they need to export as much as the stuff as possible, but also need to keep supply low and the price high.

It's a worldwide market experiment in game theory.

I'm aware of that. I think I just misunderstood what your comment meant.

I thought you were referring to the ecological impact, you meant the economic impact.

I don't dispute the economic impact at all.

Regardless, the current economies tanking were going to take this hit at some point. Oil is not an infinite resource.
 
Winter Steam sale wasn't that bad. Are you joking about the $100 games or is that reality

We're paying $80 for new games currently. We used to pay $60, then it became $70 now $80 it sucks :(

No it isn't.

EDIT: Who in their right mind can look at past year and think that this is wrecking anything?

(kinda sucks for Canada, but even there economy is doing OK)
Errr...our dollar is worth like 70cents USD. That's pretty terribad D:
 
We're paying $80 for new games currently. We used to pay $60, then it became $70 now $80 it sucks :(


Errr...our dollar is worth like 70cents USD. That's pretty terribad D:

A country with a weak currency vs the usd doesn't automatically mean that its economy is doing "pretty terribad lol"
 
It really hurts trying to purchase anything with the CAD dollar outside Canada. It's super expensive now.

Yup. Just as I'm getting the itch to build a kickass Amiga 1200, and literally all the parts I need are in Europe.

Oh well, can't put it off for too long or I won't even be able to buy a machine, period.
 
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