Thankfully this is a video game and not a documentary on realistic clothing.
Valkyria Azure Revolution Extended Trailer [Soriku-approved topics only]
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Thankfully this is a video game and not a documentary on realistic clothing.
Is there anything about the non-generic-soldier characters in that trailer that makes sense in a real world setting? Girl wearing white in a combat zone? Check. Rushing enemy battalions with swords? Check.
They're supposed to contrast the setting. JRPG protagonist/villain/person-of-note trope, for better or worse.
I wonder if people realize how misguided and awful those kind of comments sound.
That's kind of the point, though. Kakumei will follow this style, and Senjou will continue to be Senjou.
At least that's what they've been saying, we'll see if they actually make another Senjou game in the future. Really hope they do.
It IS its own IP. Its Azure Revolution, not Chronicles.
It is based on the concept of Valkyria, that's why its still called that. Its like Nova Chrysalis in regards to the general concepts that are used in each game, but differently.
KharmaPolice
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You should focus on the sentence that came before that:
KharmaPolice said:
My problem isn't that the clothing is unpracticle or doesn't fit the setting (I think the character with the white dress looks really cool). I don't like how the top of the valkyria magically snugs itself tightly around her two breasts. It looks silly and puts a heavy emphasis on her breasts instead of her overall character design. If the top would just normally fit around her breasts I would be happy with the design.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
That seriously made you cry? 
AuthenticM
Member
I know.
Ridiculous. From your remarks, there is nothing that could have been done in that trailer to make you be ok with the size of her breasts, because the size of her breasts is your problem. No camera angle could "hide" the size of her breasts. You would notice them. And you'd complain.
Yes, she was designed by a dude. Yes, probably because he likes big breasts, but that's irrelevant. People design characters they like. There's nothing wrong with designing a character with blue eyes because the designer likes blue eyes. There's also nothing wrong with designing a character with small breasts because the designer likes small breasts.
Like the other poster said, this isn't a Quiet situation. The character in that trailer was not posing for the player; she looked fierce, independent and strong. That's what matters.
So yes, what is happening here is absolutely breasts-shaming. It's shaming a character only because she has big breasts, and shaming the designer because he had the audacity to design a character with big breasts.
Women with big breasts exist, and they can and should be represented in games without having to be subjected to others shaming them out of a need to quell their puritanical anxieties.
We'll have an actual playable demo next month right?
Ragnorok64
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sorry but this character design just makes me roll my eyes
I don't forgive you.
There was talk of a demo with the Chronicles Remaster yeah. But I don't think it will be available separately?
There's a Nagoshi Raw on Monday that's going to discuss this and Yakuza 6, so we might get more gameplay info or a clip then.
Nice! Looking forward to it.
You don't need to, this is a brand new scenario
EvilKatarn
Member
Wow those vocals. I need to check out what else Sarah Àlainn has done.
The Artisan
Member
so valkyria is a franchise now. but is this game canon to the previous ones or is this sort of a reboot?
chrominance
Member
Alternate universe/spiritual relation or something like that. Probably technically canon but essentially unrelated to the original except in terms of general similarities.
The more I see of the game, the more I'm coming to accept this new Valkyria. It might just be more that I've accepted the old one might never return, so any substitute is better than none, but there we are.
Apologies but I just checked NicoNico and they'll only be covering Valkyria Remaster.
Sorry to get both of your hopes up
You make me roll my eyes.
Trailer looks fantastic, but i'm anxiously waiting for the gameplay.
Its a spinoff and reimagining. Firstly, Valkyria Chronicles is no longer the 'main series'.
It is merely a subseries in an overarching franchise now Titled "Valkyria"
In this franchise there is Azure Revolution, which is completely alternative universe with all new cast of characters, story and different gameplay.
And there is Chronicles which is the original series
DarknessTear
Banned
Come on. Stop focusing on how the OP felt about the videos. Anyway, it's nice that Mitsuda is doing things. I wonder how much of the soundtrack will be him and not those who work under him?
I see GAF still thinks that women shouldn't be allowed to have large breasts. Damn those large-breased women!
I admit they do look a little odd, though. Maybe more than a little.
I admit they do look a little odd, though. Maybe more than a little.
Since you consider my reaction to a part of the trailer with its camera work and its character design to be derailing, I don't see how any further discussion or counter-arguments by me in this thread would be useful for you.
Besides, I didn't want to "derail" or turn the thread into anything it wasn't supposed to be about - I just posted my reaction to something that I consider to be bad character design on a number of levels. I like Valkyria Chronicles as a game a lot and I really is/was hopeful to get a console sequel to it, so it just disappoints me when I encounter what I consider to be an eye-rolling character design. I can't control how other people choose to act or reply to my disappointment. But seeing the responses to my post, it's clear that such opinions aren't welcome. Anyway, I just pointed out something in the trailer that disappointed me. No need to argue about it. This isn't a matter of who's right or wrong, just a personal preference on character design.
^this
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
sorry but this character design just makes me roll my eyes
Those are batteries ofc
They're twice as large as last game because she's twice as powerful
Pay attention please Lime
Does this have a lot of reused footage or something? I swear I've seen this trailer already
Haeleos
Member
I'm confused. I'm playing Valkyria Chronicles on PC and at worst, the character design in that game is at least tolerable, so why have they gone with such puerile character design for this one?
Granted I haven't played very far in to VC1, but the style and setting were huge selling points for me... and the glowing power swords and embarassing Soul Calibur-esque reject at the end of this trailer just feel like box checking tired, childish anime themes. I would've written it off much more quickly if the first game hadn't already established itself otherwise, and I don't think this aesthetic is doing Sega any favors in trying to find a market for this series in the west.
Granted I haven't played very far in to VC1, but the style and setting were huge selling points for me... and the glowing power swords and embarassing Soul Calibur-esque reject at the end of this trailer just feel like box checking tired, childish anime themes. I would've written it off much more quickly if the first game hadn't already established itself otherwise, and I don't think this aesthetic is doing Sega any favors in trying to find a market for this series in the west.
YianGaruga
Banned
Yeah, the first game had nothing like this
oh wait
after that the series turned into a high school simulation
My guess is mainstream western appeal is not their primary goal, thank god
Haeleos
Member
I knew it was somewhat present in the first game but to the extent that this new trailer goes to? I'd have to play more of it, but that example doesn't seem as egregious a departure from the original game's aesthetic. For starters, she's at least approaching anatomical correctness in that screenshot.
Spieler Eins
Member
Show me the receipts gameplay.
It's a super fantastical video game
The main guy character is wielding a weapon almost as large as his body
Let it go
If this game didn't have the Valkyria name on it, I don't think I would have been nearly as disappointed with that trailer as I am. The character design is part of it, but then again, I'm attached to the characters from the original, so maybe part of my reaction is disappointment at not seeing them again. I'm open to being wowed by new characters, though-- we'll see when the game gets here.
As for the boob lady, yeah, that bums me out as well. I think it's because I knew a lot of women who loves the original game, and by going all-in on this grotesque character trait, the game sends a message that the developers don't really care whether or not any women play this one. Who knows, maybe they really don't. Goddamn, would that ever be disappointing.
As for the boob lady, yeah, that bums me out as well. I think it's because I knew a lot of women who loves the original game, and by going all-in on this grotesque character trait, the game sends a message that the developers don't really care whether or not any women play this one. Who knows, maybe they really don't. Goddamn, would that ever be disappointing.
That's not wholly the case. The Valkyria in VP2 and Alicia are not titty monsters. (Although, the VP2 was a loli.) The dev team chose to go with this design, which basically the easy route. They could come up with better designs.
YianGaruga
Banned
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Pretty sure there are a good amount of people who would agree with you. Just my opinion as well.
Either way hopefully there will be announce for western release.
Danielle Riendeau stopped enjoying Dragon's Crown because of character designs like this. That bums me out. I don't enjoy games as much when I know they're making other people feel that way. Yeah, there are also going to be people who don't give a shit, I'm just not one of those people.
Night Angel
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Karsticles
Member
On the other hand, my wife loves the Dragon's Crown ladies. We have almost 200 hours of play together.
You can't pin one person's distaste for a design on an entire gender. Some men will like character X, and some men will dislike character X. It's not about men, it's about the individual. Ditto for women. Some women like large breasted characters, and some will dislike them based on that trait alone. Dead or Alive, which gets a lot of criticism for its fan fare, actually has the highest female representation among fighting game players, I hear.