Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame
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The article says reports were exaggerated so I'm guessing some reactions may be based on those rather than the reality.
Though it's weird they say it wasn't inappropriate in the same statement of them removing it.
I'm curious what that is then. Outside of battles, how would you grind support?
Palette Swap
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Can't say I'll miss it.
Steve Youngblood
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My problem with the censorship debate and the reason I might use a word like "localization'"in its place is that I just feel like when people state that something is being censored, it's typically assumed that this is inherently a bad thing. "Censorship" is bad. And as I've argued numerous times this isn't something I agree with necessarily. It can be a bad thing. But before I deride something as unnecessary censorship, I feel like it's important to examine what's being edited and why.
Megidolaon
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Man there was a lot of voice acting in that minigame. It was completely optional too. I do not like this decision. How much else is gonna get cut?
Don't you see how they are blushing? That's some rated m shit right there!
I am not against the petting, but people have been acting extremely childish over this
Seems a bit excessive to outright remove it IMO, it never seemed creepy or perverse to me considering it was just the faces.
The way I see it: If people don't like it then don't use it - I don't like the Pokemon Amie minigame so I never used it.
Overall I'm rather indifferent to the whole thing.
On the one hand, I would prefer if they didn't remove content regardless of how others see it - it's their game they shouldn't be pressured to remove or change content to appease people.
On the other hand, I see why they don't want to deal with any backlash and potentially upset western fans/ lose sales.
The way I see it: If people don't like it then don't use it - I don't like the Pokemon Amie minigame so I never used it.
Overall I'm rather indifferent to the whole thing.
On the one hand, I would prefer if they didn't remove content regardless of how others see it - it's their game they shouldn't be pressured to remove or change content to appease people.
On the other hand, I see why they don't want to deal with any backlash and potentially upset western fans/ lose sales.
Vyse The Legend
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Fates is going to sell way more than Awakening. Awakening bolstered the series' popularity in the West, and Smash probably amplified it even more.
Plus, there are two versions of the game, and many of us plan to get both. So, that alone will guarantee higher sales numbers.
for peopl like me...
not an hour....nor minut.... nor day.....
24/7
all month!
u understand my sturggle?
damn nitnendo
they cucked me!
CUCKED ME!
waifusm is a dying subject, with normies making fun of it, and people like Melonpan-senpai being bullied because he is in the holy church of waifusm
it's not fair goddamnit
not fair at all
and when i see people happy about this, i die a little inside
because we should not remove content from games
it makes the game non complete
just like mgs v: the phantom pain
But Bayonetta survived. I'll still cling to hope.
RIP beach DLC
captainpat
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2nded. It's ridiculous that dev time and resources were spent on a feature that almost half of your consumers aren't even gonna see.
ElBoxyBrown
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What benefits did you get for petting your comrades?
People who cheer for a game's content getting cut are pretty weird.
From the article:
I wonder if we'll even get #FE at all now, since the whole game may be considered "inappropriate" for Americans.
And I don't like someone telling me that just because I'm American that I can't handle something so benign existing. It's really frustrating to be told that "we won't sell you something, because you're of X nationality and speak X language" and that is the entirety of their reasoning and nothing else.
From the article:
I wonder if we'll even get #FE at all now, since the whole game may be considered "inappropriate" for Americans.
And I don't like someone telling me that just because I'm American that I can't handle something so benign existing. It's really frustrating to be told that "we won't sell you something, because you're of X nationality and speak X language" and that is the entirety of their reasoning and nothing else.
balladofwindfishes
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Marriage had been in FE loooonngg before Awakening. There was an entire game where marriage played a part in the story, as it took place over several generations (rather than time travel)
wild wild rice
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I don't think censorship is the right word for this.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I doubt it, Awakening already had a swimsuit storyline via DLC
Why? I follow her on Twitter, and I'm sure she would want it in the game. (She seems to be into moe japanese games)
Not sure how much my enjoyment of the game would be contingent on whether or not this feature was in but unlike rewriting Soleil's interactions which was definitely understandable I find it slightly dumb that this was removed, mostly because of it being an oddity that is easy to overlook (and before someone says this feature would provide buffs to your character the fact that there is no seeming replacement to this proves how inconsequential it was). It's better to just own that feature set you were confident in since the lack of it in the west isn't going to stop the reputation Fire Emblem has for itself elsewhere, or in the larger context of it's series in present.
But that's just me playing devil's advocate mostly because this is an inclusion that struck me more as silly than anything.
But that's just me playing devil's advocate mostly because this is an inclusion that struck me more as silly than anything.
You act like all content is equal, and worth having simply because it was made. The feature was always a weird fit for the series, and comes off creepy to a lot of western gamers (who made up over 70% of Awakening's Worldwide audience).
Obviously character/support growth will be re-balanced to reflect the change.
Pop-O-Matic
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Maybe next time they can think about the international market when developing the game instead of including shit like this that the localizes are going to have to cut out to avoid losing more sales internationally than they managed to gain in Japan...
Ludger Kresnik
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NoooooOOOOO I wanted to rub the guys' faces!
Neoriceisgood
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I'm not sure what issue people have with reality.
I've always enjoyed how FE's been getting closer and closer to a realistic portrayal of medieval warfare in recent releases adding interpersonal connections and romance in the midst of battle to humanize the soldiers, whilst keeping well documented historical events such as generals petting all their soldiers before battle to inspire them.
But I guess a realistic battle sim that actually added extra depth by giving you options to inspire your troops in ways that match history is too much to ask.
I've always enjoyed how FE's been getting closer and closer to a realistic portrayal of medieval warfare in recent releases adding interpersonal connections and romance in the midst of battle to humanize the soldiers, whilst keeping well documented historical events such as generals petting all their soldiers before battle to inspire them.
But I guess a realistic battle sim that actually added extra depth by giving you options to inspire your troops in ways that match history is too much to ask.
you're absolutely right
whoever was in charge at int sys should have cut this idea off at the knees when it was proposed
Comrades with Benefits...?
A Link to the Past
Banned
Censorship!!
(cool)
(cool)
Lets be honest, the number of people this matters to are probably so minor it doesn't matter in the end, same goes for the translation changes.
I feel...well would have felt sorry for the english VAs having to say most of those lines lol. On the positive side, smaller digital download!
Sakura
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By battling other people's castles.
Is it the same team doing the localisation?
Those were pokemon, not people. And depending on the pokemon it was still fairly disconcerting.
sensui-tomo
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but you couldnt grab anyone's boobs in Fates unlike pokemon where you can touch the pokemon with breasts. or machoke's/champs junk.
Doesn't need to be rebalanced at all, the effect was minimal. Only thing missing is one accessory that could be gotten from that IIRC.
Are there alternatives to that for people who aren't able to play online?
Crash Station
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That's kind of important too! What the hell!?
Again, if there was some other way to see that dialogue, I'd be cool with it, but this is really not cool.
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