Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame
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I quite love FE and I also quite dig Persona. And by Persona I mean the P2 duology and P3P (for the female protagonist). The P2 duology in particular is nothing like P3 and P4. No s. links or dating sim elements, etc. To me it's still far and away the highlight of the Persona series. I get the feeling whenever people say Persona they're thinking of 3 and 4 exclusively. 1, 2: IS and 2:EP are all vastly different from 3 and 4. Especially in terms of gameplay and dungeon design. It really doesn't make sense to say they're the same series so why Atlus titled it the way they did, I don't know. Outside of revolving around school kids (though the P2 cast is older than most of the other Persona characters) and Igor being in all of them (though even his role vastly changes between P2:EP and P3), they have nothing in common.
Road of Ease
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Tell me, are movie editors considered Money People? Because they're the ones keeping movies from being 8 hours long but you don't see anyone saying that they're fucking creators' works or ruining cinema as an art form
If you're not going to listen to what LGBT people are telling you by defending a creepy magical gay conversion drugging then I don't think we need you as an advocate. You may not be a homophobe but you've chosen a homophobic trope as your cross to die on.
Do links regarding gay/trans conversion therapy and "reparative" rape of lesbians really need to be rolled out for you to get the picture?
Palculator
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But Zebetite is also assuming this change came from middlemen as well, which we have no facts for either.
It doesn't sound like the cynical marketing decision you claim it is in the Iwata Asks about the game.
They recognized how important the new features of Awakening were to the success and popularity of that game and were expanding on those concepts.
Palculator
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We do, though. Read the OP.
sorakirosaki
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i dunno if someone answered you but that was also done by kozaki
Bumbletron
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So, instead of having an actual discussion you are just going to assume I'm wrong because I don't have a statement and you do, even if that assumption is dubious at best? How is that productive here at all?
You're seriously calling these hideous?
As I've said I don't dislike Radiant Dawn's art but for fire emblem 7, I wouldn't say hideous but it's not that great.
Those are the protagonists of the game and they already look kind of generic, that says a lot of the other characters designs.
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Crash Station
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I've seen the support conversation. If it truly WAS gay conversion therapy, I'd be right there with you and call it out for being the deplorable thing it is. But it isn't, it's someone taking a drug that shifts the genders of everyone said person sees, with Soleil falling in love with the avatar because he was "nice enough" (in a twisted kind of way) to do something like that for her in an effort to get over her issues with being distracted by women on the battlefield. She didn't take the drug and was then suddenly attracted to men.
I'd probably call it misogynistic before I call it homophobic.
Like I said, it's not worth it to try and deal with this dude.
Read the OP, we don't.
We have a statement from Nintendo saying they made changes when localizing the game.
"Nintendo" in this case could be NoA, the parent company, someone from within the actual software development team, a middleman, or a 3rd party consultant in Nintendo's employment. All of that would qualify as "we" in a statement by Nintendo.
SenorArdilla
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Removing advertised content from a game is a big deal.
"aw yeah, thank god they got rid of it"
"why the heck did they get rid of it?? it was an optional thing"
"hopefully this means intelligent systems isn't gonna have any more pandering crap"
"I'm indifferent but it was optional so I guess it would've been fine to keep in"
that's probably 90% of the posts right there
Palculator
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I'm assuming you're wrong because you asserted something you've yet to provide proof for upon multiple requests.
it was never advertised to NA players right? obviously marketing is international these days of course but still
Joyful
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schadenfreude basically
You forgot about the anime avatars bit.
ShinRPGamer
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You forgot "Does this mean the Character interactions and Live2D are gone as well"
It was never advertised for the west though.
That presentation where they showed the features of My Castle was never officially released for the West.
Elaugaufein
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And the implications that anyone with an anime avatar and / or doesn't like these changes is a GamerGater and/or social regressive.
Bumbletron
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That is actually an interesting quote. Thanks for showing it to me.
The part where he said that Maeda would add everything in to make characters more lovable is a bit concerning to me though. Although it's great to see someone be passionate about something like that, it also makes it seem an awful lot like people were telling him what to add in the game and he was conceding to them. He probably thought they were good ideas, which means it could very well be a mix of the two, and lightens the context of it by quite a bit. I still think someone was really pushing for skinship and that's why it was in the game. I just don't feel like it was Maeda (from the beginning, at least).
I understand, but still I try, haha. Thanks for the advice though.
Yet whenever you are asked for proof, the only thing you respond with is "Read the OP" and no elaboration. That is no better in itself. Yet I don't just immediately assume you are wrong and discount all of your opinions, instead I try to have a discussion based on them.
Don't forget "Preorder cancelled, I hope NoA burns in hell"
Cool cool! I want to search up more of their art cause I really like it.
To be fair, that's generally what they go for. They go for the style that's in for the time, genericness may be one word to describe it but that's also what's popular. 80's, 90's, 00's, all the art styles follow the popular anime art trend of their era.
I'm trying to forget that mess ever happened.
...so are the Live2D models outside of the confession scenes gone? :<
I'll give you the official art for 1-4 but FE5's is pretty decent IMO.
Super generic (like ridiculously generic) but I like the watercolor/marker look at least
You do realize you don't need to look far since he's the artist for Awakening and Fates, right?
Correct, there was no feature video for the... feature made for outside of Japan
Crash Station
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I'll give you the official art for 1-4 but FE5's is pretty decent IMO.
Super generic (like ridiculously generic) but I like the watercolor/marker look at least
I'm talking about the portrait art actually.
ShinRPGamer
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I have no idea. Some evidence seems to indicate they are still in but who knows.
Only minigame is confirmed out. Live2D would remain and be used for the conversations even without the minigame.
You do realize you don't need to look far since he's the artist for Awakening and Fates, right?
Oh I know! I just want to see if I can find other works too. I don't know if he has or not but I wanna see what cool stuff I can find!
Fate/Cipher
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Anime avatar checking in!
Crash Station
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How would that work exactly? You just look at them and talk basically?
Those posts were a bit strange but yeah. Its their choice.
I still love fire emblem enough to try to look past NOA's choice here.
Go look up Lily Bergamo. Then be eternally sad that the game became Let it Die.
They better still be in in some way.
If you're going to keep insisting that it's okay when plenty of LGBT people on GAF have expressed why it makes them very uncomfortable and despite the many explanations regarding the homophobic tropes it belongs to then you're not worth giving the benefit of the doubt any longer. This is a blindspot you have that I hope you one day address.
I thought the only other place those models were used were during confession scenes?
*I have not been keeping up with import impressions or anything
Kamina
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While this is nothing I actually need or care about I still dont understand why this was taken out.
Why is this okay for Japan but not the rest of the world? If they were trying to hide this mechanic because it is shameful for them then they litterally just drew more attention to it. I doubt many people would have cared about it in the final game anyway.
Why is this okay for Japan but not the rest of the world? If they were trying to hide this mechanic because it is shameful for them then they litterally just drew more attention to it. I doubt many people would have cared about it in the final game anyway.
Just some easy links to see some of the Artists associated with Fire Emblem and the card game.
8 Sachiko Wada - http://worldofcipher.com/index/illustrator/sachikowada.html
9-10 Senri Kita- http://worldofcipher.com/index/illustrator/senrikita.html
13-14 Yusuke Kozaki- http://worldofcipher.com/index/illustrator/yusukekozaki.html
#FE http://worldofcipher.com/index/illustrator/toi8.html
Daisuke Izuka Art Director for Cipher and worked on 11-12 (which had multiple artists working on it iirc).
http://worldofcipher.com/index/illustrator/daisukeizuka.html
Let's also not forget "people who don't like rubbing fanservicey anime people are offended by sex". That's always part of these arguments
sorakirosaki
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the cipher art is what i feel some of kozakis best stuff lol (the art in it for the most part is nothing short of amazing) There is a wiki for it set 3 is unbelievable
also random tibit: Kozakis also designed the characters to the new anime bubuki/buranki
As far as I know the only instance in which live2d is used outside of the petting are the confession scenes, so if they're handled like awakening you look at them while they say a couple of lines.
Palculator
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You should thank NoA for making the choice for you!
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