Fire Emblem Fates' localization doesn't have the petting minigame

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It wasn't the norm, though. I first encountered in Luminous Arc and then I somehow avoided it until Awakening. I'm pretty sure GBA era SRPGs were mostly free from it. It'd feel so incredibly out of place in Tactics Ogre, FFT, Onimusha Tactics, etc.

Alma: "Ramza, don't you want somebody to love? Don't you need somebody to love?"

Ovelia: "Delita, I don't understand your viewpoints at all. Please rub the stylus on my forehead."
 
Real talk, Sakura Taisen was 1996. It's sequel, Sakura Taisen 2 sold over 500,000 copies in the day. The Sakura Taisen series was one of the most popular SRPGs in its time right next to Super Robot Wars.

It wasn't the norm, though. I first encountered in Luminous Arc and then I somehow avoided it until Awakening. I'm pretty sure GBA era SRPGs were mostly free from it. It'd feel so incredibly out of place in Tactics Ogre, FFT, Onimusha Tactics, etc.

Not in America, but very well existed in Japan, and more so the PC platform as well. It's not new, you're just seeing it now because it's getting localized.
 
It wasn't the norm, though. I first encountered in Luminous Arc and then I somehow avoided it until Awakening. I'm pretty sure GBA era SRPGs were mostly free from it. It'd feel so incredibly out of place in Tactics Ogre, FFT, Onimusha Tactics, etc.

It kind of was the norm though for stuff that didn't release outside of Japan, or at least a very significant minority, and not just newer stuff either. Again, it predates Final Fantasy Tactics. Growlanser, Sakura Wars, Summon Nights, etc. These are not new series.
 
I love the marriage/child system for gameplay purposes. Creating a hell spawn from a perfect pairing is some fun ass shit. Gaining new (often better) units via mixing a matching was the most fun I got out of the game (especially with the weak story and samey mission design. The latter of which is fixed apparently. With the former left to be seen). Its not about Chrom X Robin 5eva (although this makes Morgan, a hax god) or waifus or husbandos for me but its the whole team building aspect. Same thing from persona, pokemon and a lot of RPGs I like.
 
no, it means you can pair up people in fe6/7/8 and there were shipping wars for ages

only path of radiance/radiant dawn dialed back the romance

Oh. Well to be fair, the games weren't as big so those were more of Skirmishes then Wars

Also Dialed back? They had almost none of that other then Jill/Haar, Leanne/Crow King(I forgot his damn name) and Geoffery/Elincia. Oh yeah the Sothe/Micaiah the only pairing everybody only got. I think this actually disappointed people.
 
There's something strange about a culture that promotes and glorifies violence yet censors this kind of thing. It trips me out deeply.
 
You do see who your replying too, right? :P Charlequin doesn't go half-way with his opinions.

So he would seem.

I don't think there's any point of having a discussion anymore--well, a good one, anyways--if one side is already characterize the other side as perverts/abnormal/what-have-you. Plus it's not like Nintendo would reverse their move anyways, regardless of what some might say.

I stand on my opinion though: it's a shame Nintendo does this, and it's even more of a shame that there are people that cheer for this. Ah well, c'est la vie.
 
Maybe the fact the characters models had no feet in awakening is what "SAVED" fire emblem. I bought the game because I heard the gameplay was good, not for skeevy stuff.

Nintendo was foolish for taken the series down a path that makes most people really uncomfortable. Good to see them come to their senses just a little bit here.

Petting saved Fire Emblem? Or whatever creepiness could be found in Awakening?

They mean stuff like Nowi. The 1000 year old
wink wink
dragon.

 
Maybe the fact the characters models had no feet in awakening is what "SAVED" fire emblem. I bought the game because I heard the gameplay was good, not for skeevy stuff.

Nintendo was foolish for taken the series down a path that makes most people really uncomfortable. Good to see them come to their senses just a little bit here.



They mean stuff like Nowi. The 1000 year old
wink wink
dragon.


Tiki was the exact same in the first game.
why are people so stuck on Nowi as their "see gotcha you pedo" talking point?
 
Nowi was introduced in order to give players an incentive to play with permadeath on.

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Nowi was actually one of the better characters in Awakening. Better then Chrom and Lucina in my opinion.

Also I found Tiki to be "worst" then Nowi. They went way overboard.
 
I love the marriage/child system for gameplay purposes. Creating a hell spawn from a perfect pairing is some fun ass shit. Gaining new (often better) units via mixing a matching was the most fun I got out of the game (especially with the weak story and samey mission design. The latter of which is fixed apparently. With the former left to be seen). Its not about Chrom X Robin 5eva (although this makes Morgan, a hax god) or waifus or husbandos for me but its the whole team building aspect. Same thing from persona, pokemon and a lot of RPGs I like.

I tried to do it this way. I spent the entire game up until the decision point, scrupulously avoiding having any female Chrom could marry being in base contact with him so I could decide on the most optimum pairings. FeMC wasn't having any of that though and I'm a straight male who chose a female MC because they make a better magic user.
At least I got a godly Lucina and a Galeforce Morgan as a consolation prize
 
Oh. Well to be fair, the games weren't as big so those were more of Skirmishes then Wars

Also Dialed back? They had almost none of that other then Jill/Haar, Leanne/Crow King(I forgot his damn name) and Geoffery/Elincia. Oh yeah the Sothe/Micaiah the only pairing everybody only got. I think this actually disappointed people.

Naesala. Oh and don't forget Boyd/Mist lol.

And I dunno. I seem to remember some pretty intense Eliwood/Lyn/Hector/Florina/Kent/Ninian/Rath/Fiora wars going on :P Or maybe I'm just remembering wrong haha.

Did Awakening even have all that much shipping talk? I mean, obviously people argued about who went best with whom but it always seemed to be more related to min-maxxing children than to actual shipping wars arguments. Maybe I just didn't go to the right places.
 
Naesala. Oh and don't forget Boyd/Mist lol.

And I dunno. I seem to remember some pretty intense Eliwood/Lyn/Hector/Florina/Kent/Ninian/Rath/Fiora wars going on :P Or maybe I'm just remembering wrong haha.

Did Awakening even have all that much shipping talk? I mean, obviously people argued about who went best with whom but it always seemed to be more related to min-maxxing children than to actual shipping wars arguments. Maybe I just didn't go to the right places.

Annnnnd I forgot the most obvious pairing lol. I think it did, but it also had lost of talk about incest and Cordelia being...Cordelia. Actually I don't remember I ship for optimal stats. The only pairing I did the same was Sumia/Chrom because the game kept shoving it in my face.
 
I assumed that most of the shipping in Awakening was eugenics.

Annnnnd I forgot the most obvious pairing lol. I think it did, but it also had lost of talk about incest and Cordelia being...Cordelia. Actually I don't remember I ship for optimal stats. The only pairing I did the same was Sumia/Chrom because the game kept shoving it in my face.

Keeping Chrom pure for Olivia.
 
Naesala. Oh and don't forget Boyd/Mist lol.

And I dunno. I seem to remember some pretty intense Eliwood/Lyn/Hector/Florina/Kent/Ninian/Rath/Fiora wars going on :P Or maybe I'm just remembering wrong haha.

Did Awakening even have all that much shipping talk? I mean, obviously people argued about who went best with whom but it always seemed to be more related to min-maxxing children than to actual shipping wars arguments. Maybe I just didn't go to the right places.

Waifu talk got banned because people got fed upabout people joking about it in every topic. Very few people were serious about it but it did tend to dominate topics even if it was people joking.

Same thing happened for Persona.

I think the majority of Waifu talk is people joking around. At least on Gaf...I am sure that is not the case everywhere
 
I think those places would be equally glad you never went to them either.

What exactly am I saying in this thread that's causing such marked hostility? If I'm coming across as arrogant, i apologize. But this is legitimately not the norm for me with this site -- I've never posted in a thread and sparked such focused vitriol from a few fellow members. It's pretty irritating.

Is it because I categorized it all as drivel? Fine, sorry. Like what you like. Live and let live. It's the especially obsessive side of those discussions that grates on my nerves, is all. The same can be said for anything, really.

If I'm coming across as some bitter old-school Fire Emblem diehard, that's not even the case. I have relatively little experience with the franchise. I really enjoyed Sacred Stones and Radiant Dawn. *shrug*
 
Tiki was the exact same in the first game.
why are people so stuck on Nowi as their "see gotcha you pedo" talking point?

No. Tiki had no romance options whatsoever. She was just some adorable kid that's insanely powerful. She was fun to use and a novelty unit in the game.
 
Nowi was actually one of the better characters in Awakening. Better then Chrom and Lucina in my opinion.

Also I found Tiki to be "worst" then Nowi. They went way overboard.

i legit kinda felt the same way :/ her support convos were pretty cute i get that her design is pretty ehhhhh but as a character i honestly thought she was really likable

No. Tiki had no romance options whatsoever. She was just some adorable kid that's insanely powerful. She was fun to use and a novelty unit in the game.

i think you may be mismembering but tiki definitely had a thing for marth and if romance options were a thing in that time im pretty sure tiki would have had one with marth

its also kind of weird that tiki in awakening doesnt have a support convo with nowi but has one with nah seems like kind of wasted opporunity
 
What exactly am I saying in this thread that's causing such marked hostility? If I'm coming across as arrogant, i apologize. But this is legitimately not the norm for me with this site -- I've never posted in a thread and sparked such focused vitriol from a few fellow members. It's pretty irritating.

I apologize. I was being overly abrasive to you specifically when it's not you causing me to be abrasive. This is just the latest in a long line of threads where people make the implication that enjoying romantic aspects in games makes you an awful human being and incapable of being a serious gamer and it got old a long time ago.
 
Did Awakening even have all that much shipping talk? I mean, obviously people argued about who went best with whom but it always seemed to be more related to min-maxxing children than to actual shipping wars arguments. Maybe I just didn't go to the right places.

Once they added the self-insert CaC that was Robin, shipping wars got immediately replaced with waifu/husbando wars.
 
people are avoiding the point.

I paired Nowi up with Donnell because that seemed "right" so yeah I wasn't a fan of the idea or design either but it gets old to keep seeing "hurr hurr 1000 year old dragons herp derp" as a way of saying the series has gone to shit...when the trope was present early on too.
 
i legit kinda felt the same way :/ her support convos were pretty cute i get that her design is pretty ehhhhh but as a character i honestly thought she was really likable



i think you may be mismembering but tiki definitely had a thing for marth and if romance options were a thing in that time im pretty sure tiki would have had one with marth

Tiki very much had a thing for Marth back in Akaneia, and more so with her reaction to first seeing Lucina in Awakening.
 
I apologize. I was being overly abrasive to you specifically when it's not you causing me to be abrasive. This is just the latest in a long line of threads where people make the implication that enjoying romantic aspects in games makes you an awful human being and it got old a long time ago.

I understand. Sorry you've had to go through that. I'm into the romance aspects of certain games, myself, even.

I certainly don't think anyone is awful for enjoying it. I do think it gets a little weird at times, but I don't begrudge people for liking even the really weird stuff. (Well, maybe the really weird stuff...)
 
i think you may be mismembering but tiki definitely had a thing for marth and if romance options were a thing in that time im pretty sure tiki would have had one with marth

Marth had a girlfriend, so I doubt that. And a girl can have a crush on somebody, it just gets creepy when an adult is reciprocating those feelings.
 
i think you may be mismembering but tiki definitely had a thing for marth and if romance options were a thing in that time im pretty sure tiki would have had one with marth

If you mean Xane's fake Tiki. Tiki was never pandering. Yeah, it was implied she had a crush on Marth, but that was in Mystery of the Emblem. It was also a very minor thing that I can't even remember the conversation other than Xane pretending to be Tiki. Hell, it could even be something fandom drummed up. I'm really sitting here typing this up and can't remember anything about Tiki and Marth.
 
i keep forgetting about caeda lol but it doesnt change the fact tiki definitely did have a thing for marth

Sure, but I don't see what that changes. Nowi just gets creepy because she is half naked and adults have feelings back to her. If Nowi just had a crush on Chrom and that went nowhere, nobody would care.
 
i keep forgetting about caeda lol but it doesnt change the fact tiki definitely did have a thing for marth

If you mean Xane's fake Tiki. Tiki was never pandering. Yeah, it was implied she had a crush on Marth, but that was in Mystery of the Emblem. It was also a very minor thing that I can't even remember the conversation other than Xane pretending to be Tiki. Hell, it could even be something fandom drummed up. I'm really sitting here typing this up and can't remember anything about Tiki and Marth.

they make a reference to it in awakening with tikis support with nah which implied that she did and the whole mar mar (basically onii-san isnt pandering? just honestly wondering here) at least despite nowis clothes she never went with the pet names(at least from what i remember)
 
they make a reference to it in awakening with tikis support with nah which implied that she did and the whole mar mar (basically onii-san isnt pandering? just honestly wondering here) at least despite nowis clothes she never went with the pet names(at least from what i remember)

There. There is your problem.
 
Like people have said, if those games had romances, Tiki would absolutely have been an option for Marth.

But they didn't. So no adult is going after Tiki. That's why nobody cares, the games didn't do that.

If Zelda had Link marry a child, people would be upset. But Zelda doesn't do that, so nobody complains about Zelda. Making up examples is really a poor argument.
 
Sure, but I don't see what that changes. Nowi just gets creepy because she is half naked and adults have feelings back to her. If Nowi just had a crush on Chrom and that went nowhere, nobody would care.

Given how often that picture of how Nowi dresses comes up, I'd bet you significant amounts of money she'd still have been controversial (at least on GAF) even if she had no S rank conversations at all.
 
Given how often that picture of how Nowi dresses comes up, I'd bet you significant amounts of money she'd still have been controversial (at least on GAF) even if she had no S rank conversations at all.

I think her outfit would be controversial, but not the character herself. I did mention the outfit was problematic too.
 
The European delay is because Shibata needs time to dub all the lines NoA refused to do for this minigame.
 
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