Serkan Toto Rumor: Bandai Namco making several NX games, including a Smash for launch

RayearthRob said:
Smash U port would be a smart move. Nake MGalaxy 3, Diddy Kong Racing and Smash at launch and NX will be fine.
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I think this is a fairly plausible launch line up:
-Smash port
-Zelda U port
-Pikmin 4 port
-Paper Mario U port
-Pokken port
-Retro Studio's newest game
-Mario platformer
With these announced for the months following:
-New Monster Studios game
-NLG's second project
-New Kirby platformer
Granted it's a lot of ports. But it still beats the fuck out of how poor both the Wii U and 3DS launches were. I doubt we'll get all of these at launch, but I think we will get some of them.
 
People saying port Pokken but to do that they'd have to rework the whole game. Assuming the NX doesn't have gampad compatibility the game's perspective would have to be completely redone if ported to the NX.


Hatchtag said:
I think this is a fairly plausible launch line up:
-Smash port
-Zelda U port
-Pikmin 4 port
-Paper Mario U port
-Pokken port
-Retro Studio's newest game
-Mario platformer
With these announced for the months following:
-New Monster Studios game
-NLG's second project
-New Kirby platformer
Granted it's a lot of ports. But it still beats the fuck out of how poor both the Wii U and 3DS launches were. I doubt we'll get all of these at launch, but I think we will get some of them.
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A bunch of ports of old games certainly didn't help the Wii U.
 
Hatchtag said:
I think this is a fairly plausible launch line up:
-Smash port
-Zelda U port
-Pikmin 4 port
-Paper Mario U port
-Pokken port
-Retro Studio's newest game
-Mario platformer
With these announced for the months following:
-New Monster Studios game
-NLG's second project
-New Kirby platformer
Granted it's a lot of ports. But it still beats the fuck out of how poor both the Wii U and 3DS launches were. I doubt we'll get all of these at launch, but I think we will get some of them.
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Dreaming is FREE
 
Smash Port with all the 3DS content and DLC included would be a great idea for launch. The WiiU version was already meaty enough but a complete collection would be enormous, plus it would ensure i never have to touch the 3DS version again for those 3DS exclusive stages and Smash Run.

Personally if there's no BC i really hope that there is a Platinum collection for the NX as i'd hate to have TW101 and Bayo 1 & 2 tied indefinitely to my WiiU.
 
Doctre81 said:
Did it work out for Wii? Wii sold the way did because of Wiisports...not a port of TP. And by the time we finally got wii's Zelda a lot of people didn't care anymore it was the like the worse selling console Zelda despite being released on a system with the biggest install base of any Nintendo console. That didn't work out too well at all in hindsight.
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Twilight Princess' Wii sales were strong, and were certainly a compelling reason for core gamers to jump in on the system at launch. That kind of purchase helps sell other core games, which is what Nintendo needs. Zelda is a fairly unique title in their lineup in its capacity to pull those types of gamers in.

Plus, the sales would certainly be far better than what Zelda is doomed to on the U alone.

Regardless, it's not like it's going to shorten the time until the next Zelda. The only thing that is going to do that is if they don't have to make separate handheld and console entries.
 
Hatchtag said:
I think this is a fairly plausible launch line up:
-Smash port
-Zelda U port
-Pikmin 4 port
-Paper Mario U port
-Pokken port
-Retro Studio's newest game
-Mario platformer
With these announced for the months following:
-New Monster Studios game
-NLG's second project
-New Kirby platformer
Granted it's a lot of ports. But it still beats the fuck out of how poor both the Wii U and 3DS launches were. I doubt we'll get all of these at launch, but I think we will get some of them.
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That would be like saying to people "It's a new WiiU for you!!"
 
GrandiaX said:
Dreaming is FREE
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haha. Again, not all of those. But:
-Smash 4 listed by this article. Bandai Namco also makes me think Pokken, especially if they're supporting it as well as they seem to be.
-Zelda U, Pikmin 4, and Paper Mario U are all games we either know or are strongly rumored to be coming out for the Wii U. I'd expect these to be in the fall, right around when the NX launches. Porting these would make a lot of sense.
-Retro's finished a game roughly ever 3 years. DKC:TF was finished in late 2013. NX will likely launch in late 2016.
-It'd been a while since the last Mario Platformer and Kirby platformer. Only reasons why I listed those.
-Monster Studios' last game came out in April of last year. I don't expect one to be out for launch, but I could easily see it being announced by then.
-I wouldn't expect NLG, but didn't they say something about having another project? I imagine that could be announced soon.

bman94 said:
A bunch of ports of old games certainly didn't help the Wii U.
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it didn't get ports of old games. it got new games that nobody could tell were new games because they just looked like HD versions of old games.

Also, only Pokken and Smash 4 would be old games. 3 of these games would be launching in fall most likely. So they'd be new games launching on two systems.

orioto said:
That would be like saying to people "It's a new WiiU for you!!"
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to which people would reply "Cool, I never owned one of those anyways!"
 
I'm not sure we will see a Pokken NX port at launch. I mean the Wii U version would have just come out by time it would be unveiled at E3. Way to kill sales of the Wii U version. I could see them releasing a Super Pokken in 2017 (original game with more characters, backgrounds, etc.) and then maybe a Pokken 2 in 2019.
 
Diffense said:
Are you talking about Wii TP or did I misunderstand your post? If I didn't then you're mistaken. TP Wii sold several times more than GC's version and it's one of the best selling Zeldas..up there with OoT.
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I said that the WII didn't sell the way it did because of Zelda TP but wiisports. Zelda TP on Wii sold very well on wii in huge part to being a launch game. But having it as the premier hardcore game for wii's launch also gave devs the excuse of not really pushing the hardware imo. Why try when even the best looking launch game from Nintendo themselves is a gamecube game? That is why launching NX with WiiU looking games is kinda dangerous.

NX should launch with games showcasing the systems capabilties. The ports can wait.
 
Coffee Dog said:
They were ports of games from systems people owned, though. Since nobody bought the Wii U, these games are all new to a large amount of people!
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Right, there's handheld owners, the majority of Nintendo's userbase, who haven't played/been offered those games yet :-p
 
Doctre81 said:
I said that the WII didn't sell the way it did because of Zelda TP but wiisports. Zelda TP on Wii sold very well on wii in huge part to being a launch game. But having it as the premier hardcore game for wii's launch also gave devs the excuse of not really pushing the hardware imo. Why try when even the best looking launch game from Nintendo themselves is a gamecube game? That is why launching NX with WiiU looking games is kinda dangerous.

NX should launch with games showcasing the systems capabilties. The ports can wait.
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Nintendo could have both. A Super Mario Galaxy 3 ground up for NX and Smash Bros Ultimate would sell units, not to mention Zelda NX which should be enhanced from Wii U.

Third Party "me too" ports would be easy money for Activision (COD) and even *gasp* EA.
 
Shikamaru Ninja said:
You are definitely NOT getting all the DLC for free. More like 3DS + Wii U features, and maybe 1-2 first-party characters like Ice Climbers and Wolf.
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That;'s what I have been saying for awhile since I don't think they would screw us over for being early buyers. I still think they wouldn't bundle it. However, I would love to see few newcomers tho.
 
Trevelyan9999 said:
Nintendo could have both. A Super Mario Galaxy 3 ground up for NX and Smash Bros Ultimate would sell units, not to mention Zelda NX which should be enhanced from Wii U.
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And people would say Galaxy 3 only looks way better than WiiU games due to "kiddy artstyle"

Nintendo should save the ports for when the system is already a success.

If you guys want the NX too be different from WiiU than you need to let the WiiU games...stay on WiiU.
 
Calvero said:
What? But no more extra Smash characters after Bayonetta
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He specifically said that Bayonetta and Corrin were the last characters for Super Smash Brothers for Wii U and 3DS. This game will be Super Smash Brothers for NX.

They need new characters to make the upgrade appealing to people that already own the Wii U and/or 3DS versions.
 
Coffee Dog said:
Why do they have to make it more compelling than just a GOTY?

TLOU PS4 did fine without extra content because the system sold more than the previous one did, with a larger audience experiencing the game for the first time.
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I'm just saying if the main point is to drive sales and have a killer app for launch. TLOU made sense because it was so acclaimed and came out so late in the PS3s life. Also, ND had the extra cycles.


Coffee Dog said:
The only reason I can think of to bother adding more content would be trying to convert Wii U Smash owners, which aren't that many people in the first place, hence the port existing at all.
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Smash 3DS is a thing.
 
Smash 4 at launch would be the perfect way to illustrate the spirit behind the new ios-like philosophy to have the games be scalable to all of their hardware. The prospect of yearly nintendo hardware refreshes is actually kind of awesome now that i think about it.

(Much of this post is based off of assumptions that are based on facts. Obviously the above could be a huge misread of some of the things they have said about nx)
 
IntelliHeath said:
That;'s what I have been saying for awhile since I don't think they would screw us over for being early buyers. I still think they wouldn't bundle it. However, I would love to see few newcomers tho.
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You're being silly lmao. A port of Smash 4 would 100% include all the DLC, it would literally be stupid to exclude that content because by the time that would be out it would be well over 6-8 months since the final DLC (Corrin & Bayo) released on the Wii U and 3DS versions. That is an adequate enough time to put them in a port for a new console.

Just look at MKX, that game's first DLC pack final content (Predator & whatever else he came with) released about 8 months ago and they're now putting out MKXL in March -- are people who bought Kombat Pack 1 8-9 months ago mad people can get it cheaper now with MKXL? Certainly quite a few but there definitely wasn't enough of an uproar about it to show a majority of the buyers were mad about it. Why? Likely because buying that content allowed them to play with those characters for several, several months (assuming they did).

Other non-fighting games do it and nobody bats an eye at it. GOTY editions, Enhanced editions, "remasters", Complete editions, etc etc. All well within a 12 month span and nobody complains that the late buyer gets it cheaper. The early adopter is rewarded for buying it early and being able to play it earlier -- their satisfaction has been met. Choosing to exclude DLC just because of early adopters of either the 3DS version or Wii U version DLC would be incredibly stupid, they wouldn't be getting people who already bought it and all the DLC to rebuy it again (or double dip) by excluding all the DLC and then forcing that person who bought it on Wii U/3DS to then rebuy all the DLC again. That would do more harm than good.

The point I'm making is this, the early adopters being upset is far less of an issue they'd create than forcing people who bought the game early on Wii U/3DS to rebuy all the DLC they bought for those versions on a NX port.
 
Glix said:
Smash 4 at launch would be the perfect way to illustrate the spirit behind the new ios-like philosophy to have the games be scalable to all of their hardware. The prospect of yearly nintendo hardware refreshes is actually kind of awesome now that i think about it.

(Much of this post is based off of assumptions that are based on facts. Obviously the above could be a huge misread of some of the things they have said about nx)
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I don't think it would need to be yearly exactly, but they have been putting out new hh designs every ~18 months for years now. Once they get over the initial launch title hump, they might be able to ignore the idea of launch software after that, and just gradually discontinue support for systems several gens behind instead.
 
Doctre81 said:
And people would say Galaxy 3 only looks way better than WiiU games due to "kiddy artstyle"

Nintendo should save the ports for when the system is already a success.

If you guys want the NX too be different from WiiU than you need to let the WiiU games...stay on WiiU.
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I definitely agree with you on this. However, for a game like Smash Bros Wii U that Nintendo has put so much effort and resources in, I can see them putting it as an enhanced edition on NX like the rumor suggests and get the game to more people. Besides Galaxy 3, I expect Nintendo to have more games either shown to be coming to the NX soon after launch that demonstrates the capabilities or more at launch. As far as the "kiddy" crap goes, Nintendo will always be labeled like that by a certain crowd of people, it's just up to Nintendo to give variety and keep courting other developers to make these different types of games that they don't necessarily specialize in so Nintendo can be Nintendo with it's internal games.
 
Coffee Dog said:
They were ports of games from systems people owned, though. Since nobody bought the Wii U, these games are all new to a large amount of people!
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If people didn't buy a Wii U to play those games, they're not going to buy an NX to play them. Ports will only excite the crowd that would be buying the system regardless.

The system needs third party games, so the Namco rumors are a good thing. Hopefully there's plenty more publishers porting their games over.
 
ShinUltramanJ said:
If people didn't buy a Wii U to play those games, they're not going to buy an NX to play them. Ports will only excite the crowd that would be buying the system regardless.

The system needs third party games, so the Namco rumors are a good thing. Hopefully there's plenty more publishers porting their games over.
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You shouldn't ignore that WiiU suffered from a horrendous reveal and a largely unappealing launch lineup. Smash sold consoles, but came too late to make up for everything not Mario Kart.
 
ShinUltramanJ said:
If people didn't buy a Wii U to play those games, they're not going to buy an NX to play them. Ports will only excite the crowd that would be buying the system regardless.

The system needs third party games, so the Namco rumors are a good thing. Hopefully there's plenty more publishers porting their games over.
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Ports bad. But then ports good. Got it!
 
Given Rockstars presence on Nintendo handhelds, I wonder if a GTA for NX handheld has any possibility of existing. The franchise was on everything but 3DS (which I was conviced would be target of lazy ass PSP ports, go figure).
 
KingBroly said:
- Smash Complete NX port
- Zelda U port
- 3D Mario
- Pokemon Z
- Mario Maker

The Day 1 launch of DREAMS
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Pokémon Z (which is more of a when than an if at this point) is probably gonna stay on the 3DS. This is Game Freak we're talking about, the same developer who stuck with the DS long after the 3DS came out. They're gonna take their sweet time before jumping on the NX Platform.
 
The case for porting Smash 4 is especially strong if NX won't have Wii U BC. The game is relatively new with the last update still due. The team definitely won't have a completely new Smash ready soon yet Nintendo will want Smash 4 to work on current hardware. If Nintendo is providing setups for smash 4 at evo 2017 they'll want it to run on NX not the obsolete Wii U because that's what they'll be selling then. Even with BC they might still want to port it to take advantage of certain NX features. They've done this before with OoT and MM3D or the "New Play Control" titles for Wii.
 
I think one thing that I'd love for Smash 4 to do is to move towards a rollback netcode for online. One other way that they could improve the online is to pull a Killer Instinct & have the game run at 90fps but output at 60fps for the sake of improving the online.
 
trutrutru said:
I feel like this was originally dismissed as being associated with smash wiiu, but could this have been for the nx project?

https://www.vg247.com/2014/04/07/sm...says-new-game-is-coming-to-wii-u-3ds-in-2015/
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That article says at the end:

It’s an odd one, considering that we’re yet to hear about a fifth Smash Bros. title, let alone a sixth. It’s possible this is just a codename or working title however.
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Here's the explanation of that oddity:
http://kotaku.com/an-in-depth-chat-with-the-genius-behind-super-smash-bro-530744390
Sakurai: We're now going into versions four and five within the series—this is only something that's now possible.

Kotaku: When you say four and five, do you mean the 3DS and Wii U versions? Those are separate?

Sakurai: Yeah, exactly.
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So I guess the next smash would be known the the developers as Smash 6. It's an interesting detail but there's a lot that doesn't make sense too.
 
Neoxon said:
I think one thing that I'd love for Smash 4 to do is to move towards a rollback netcode for online. One other way that they could improve the online is to pull a Killer Instinct & have the game run at 90fps but output at 60fps for the sake of improving the online.
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I'm not really fan of rollback net code for Street Fighter V at the moment. It was so terrible.
 
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