Street Fighter V Beta IV Thread: Jan 30-31

The hardest match ups I've had for Karin so far are Bison, Necalli, and Dhalsim.

Bison and Necalli have frame traps that are super hard to deal with. Karin is lacking in good anti airs and reversals.

Dhalsim just keeps me out all day. It's so hard to get in with Karin lol. Her dash and qcb.p will get beat by any normal he throws out. Just gotta slowly walk in and hope he doesn't teleport out.

I have more trouble dealing with Dhalsim's teleport shenanigans than getting in. I need to just block or jab, I always try to hit it with fierce or strong, but just get counter hit.
 
You have to walk in and maybe preemptively block expecting him to do that kick. If he does his fireball he can cancel into his rolling move. On the plus side, his flying kick and the move are unsafe on block. Rashid is a character who can go nuts so you have to be ready to punish the randomness. If he's pressuring you, Guard Cancel dude, push him away.

Sorry I wasn't clear, I'm the Rashid player, and I end up struggling against Chun Li's and Cammy's who end up playing a better rush down game, than I am.
 
Haha Right?? Lesson planning right now, looking HARD at my stick, as it just sits there, waiting for me. The wife went out with the kids, too. Sweet Jebus, grant me strength.
I see that the teachers are struggling with the allure of the SFV Beta just as much as the students are.
 
So far I like the Karin, Laura and Mika fights with Vega and the Gief, Ryu and Rashid match-ups better with Nash.

Haven't fought enough of the other match-ups to know.
 
Anyone got some tips for Karin against Bison? Probably my worst match-up right now. I get counter-hit for days.
 
I'll probably start off with Bison and Karin on release. I'm leaning closer to Karin and her walk speed, st.forward, and hit confirms though.
 

Oh, that's LI Joe? Played him last night and the connection was fine. Played Arturo a few times and netcode was megashit. Good to know it's just me/Arturo that has a shitty connection from here to there.

Think Joe's the only person I've played so far who baits grab whiffs and punishes them on reaction. Everyone else lets me get away with constantly delay teching.
 
I'm glad the SF4 era is over, I sucked at 1 frame links and focus canceling. The rollback netcode is great because I can do my inputs online just like I do offline. Ryu felt weird at first but now that ive gotten used to what his strengths are in V I'm doing a lot better with him.
 
6 or 7 losses in a row. ;_;

I think I just lost to the real Chris Hu. He had a pretty high LP.

Yeah. I think I;m done with this beta. I miss Zangief's green hands so much.
 
So, what can Karin do against a blocked Rashid air horizontal kick thing? Low forward or a sweep didn't seem to reach, would command dash shoulder or launcher work?
 
I am happy to finally start reaching below 30 000 in the rank. Feels satisfying also beating mirror characters who are halfways in the rank. This game is so amazing!
 
You can get jabbed out of it because it's +3 on block and starts up in 8f, a jab will beat you if you choose to do it again. Do a quicker normal after st.HK like cr.MP or st.MP if in range to solve that issue. His df.HP is only -1 as well. His buttons up close are solid, they're clearly trying to shy away from the scissor kick/specials on block all day game that he had in SF4 and as long as Bison keeps whiff punishing my normals with a grab because he can dash through them, I'm going to think it's a good dash.
That's why it doesn't matter. You block s.HK, and there's no threat afterward.

The answer to the dash it to wait a moment.

Without special spam, Bison has no game plan.
 
That's why it doesn't matter. You block s.HK, and there's no threat afterward.

The answer to the dash it to wait a moment.

Without special spam, Bison has no game plan.

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That's why it doesn't matter. You block s.HK, and there's no threat afterward.

The answer to the dash it to wait a moment.

Without special spam, Bison has no game plan.

You're disappointed you can't spam the same move again despite being positive on block? He's in range to do other moves.
 
I haven't played Bison since the first beta where he was god, but playing against him he does seem worse. I've probably played around 6 amd only 1 beat me.

It seems like they wanted to make him dependant on having to use all of his specials to be good, not just rely on scissor kicks. Like the Bison's I've been playing have had to use head stomp and stuff too. And while that move seems better, it's still just not that good of a move.

When I played him in the first beta I remember his devil's reverse being weird. Like I couldn't do it normally or something. Is it still like that? I'll be spending some time with him tomorrow.
 
You're disappointed you can't spam the same move again despite being positive on block? He's in range to do other moves.
They all suck. He has mediocre specials, and the worst footsies in the game.

I haven't played Bison since the first beta where he was god, but playing against him he does seem worse. I've probably played around 6 amd only 1 beat me.

It seems like they wanted to make him dependant on having to use all of his specials to be good, not just rely on scissor kicks. Like the Bison's I've been playing have had to use head stomp and stuff too. And while that move seems better, it's still just not that good of a move.

When I played him in the first beta I remember his devil's reverse being weird. Like I couldn't do it normally or something. Is it still like that? I'll be spending some time with him tomorrow.
Devil's Reverse is a follow-up off of Head Stomp. Push a punch button after leaving the ground.

He wasn't god tier in Beta 1. People just really sucked and couldn't stop pushing buttons. Same people that think he's really good right now.

Hey, you think Laura is bad...
 
I think I finally figured my key to my recent success: coffee. Coffee is the answer.

EDIT: Alright, you know what? Fuck Dhalshim & this long distance fireball trap game. I'm closing in on you fucker.
 
Devil's Reverse is a follow-up off of Head Stomp. Push a punch button after leaving the ground.

He wasn't god tier in Beta 1. People just really sucked and couldn't stop pushing buttons. Same people that think he's really good right now.

Yeah but I remember having trouble with it in beta 1. Like I could only do it in EX or something. Dunno. Glad it's still there.

He was really really fucking good in beta 1, and autopilot too. He could've used some improvements but his pressure was extremely easy to keep.
 
Still no idea what to do against Cammy as Vega.

It's the only matchup I've ran into so far where it feels like I'm always at a disadvantage no matter what I do.
 
df.HP has huge startup. You're not using that in the neutral. :-P Also, it needs to be positive on block to be really effetctive.

Yeah, the dash is less invincible than it seems. I've gotten hit out of it a lot of times.

df.HP has pretty good range and moves you forward, it is very usable in the neutral. It's also +1 on block. I'm pretty sure Bison is the only dude in the game where both of his non-sweep CCs are positive on block.
 
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