Street Fighter V Beta IV Thread: Jan 30-31
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The player is the issue in footsies though
lucebuce12
Member
Normally, I'd agree with you. But boy, does M.Bison have some shitty normals for footsies.
Not saying an M.Bison player can't win in that situation, it's just that there's already an innate handicap with him.
Karsticles
Member
Um, no.
You can't play footsies well with a bad walk speed, because you can't control the spacing of the match. You know that.
Zombegoast
Member
I'm think I'm done playing. Netcode was pretty horrendous this morning. Couldn't do nothing against Necallie and Chun Li. Hell I got hit by an overhead standing up while blocking in the first video.
Final two uploads
Karin Vs Ryu
Charlie Vs M.Bison
Final two uploads
Karin Vs Ryu
Charlie Vs M.Bison
CountBlack
Member
Yea I'm starting to believe that rollback might be one sided :/
teleport throw/teleport st.HK.
HELP
if only his specials were just.. all +5 on block :/
Attack as soon as y'see him teleport at you, no biggie.
Lost Fragment
Obsessed with 4chan
You can play footsies with bad walkspeed. Makoto can play footsies in 4. Bison can play footsies in 5.
You just can't weave in and out of specific ranges well and have to rely on button priority.
Bison sucks tho yeah.
Edit: misread your post, disregard lul
HappyPuppy
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I'm happy that I got better and that I like a character, good ol Chun Li. I avoid characters with charge moves since I'm bad at them, but I've practice and I can pull it off 75% of the time.
Started using Ruy since he is recommended for starters but it felt so boring, then I went and use Li cause say JWong use her and thought she was cool. Man she is sooo much fun and graceful. I hope she gets interesting outfits, the two I have seen are not to my liking.
Spent time in training mode, it really paid off. I've never really spent time in training modes in past fighters. I'm hyped for this game, had a lot of fun.
Started using Ruy since he is recommended for starters but it felt so boring, then I went and use Li cause say JWong use her and thought she was cool. Man she is sooo much fun and graceful. I hope she gets interesting outfits, the two I have seen are not to my liking.
Spent time in training mode, it really paid off. I've never really spent time in training modes in past fighters. I'm hyped for this game, had a lot of fun.
lucebuce12
Member
Your fighter ID does not carry over. The PS4 version will have a different online ID and the PC version will have a different online ID with their own unlocks.
It sucks, I know.
I just wish I had an invincible reversal as Bison to keep people honest.
Wait, what? Isn't the whole point of the CFN to avoid this? That seems very counterproductive.
oh for fuck's sake. I've been having mostly good connections this beta but this is by far the worst I've ever seen.
https://youtu.be/LSlmwGX1n4U
he turns on his lagswitch in round 2. I wouldn't even care but I was on a decent streak and at my highest LP yet.
https://youtu.be/LSlmwGX1n4U
he turns on his lagswitch in round 2. I wouldn't even care but I was on a decent streak and at my highest LP yet.
Honestly, if you mained Bison in 4 and never played any other characters, this is a rough transition. EX Psycho Crusher to get out of Oki was such a huge crutch. Now on knockdown, we have no way to keep someone honest (that I know of. If so, someone please educate me, I want to be wrong). Just attack Bison or throw mix up or cross mixup, whatever.
Wasn't it you who was saying bison's walk speed is fine and any increase would be a nerf?
lucebuce12
Member
The whole point of the CFN is to allow users of different environments, i.e PC and PS4 users, to be able to lobby, find each other and connect with each other without issues. Also to be able to roll out patches and content for both platforms simultaneously without having to worry about certification on the side of Sony.
They could've made it possible to have a fighter ID linked between a PC account and a PS4 account but well, gotta get that money.
It's also possible this is a decision by Sony, not by Capcom but we don't know.
I'm not backtracking one bit. I do not think there is anything fundamentally wrong with the game. I've just begun to find it more frustrating and less fun to play as time has gone on. That doesn't mean something has to change with the game, it just means it may not be for me.
Karsticles
Member
If your opponent can walk circles around you, you're going to lose the footsies game because they can weave in and out better than you can, which means they control the neutral. It's not that Bison can't play footsies at all, it's just that he isn't very good at it.
That was Beta 1, and he was a very different character then. He didn't NEED walk speed then because his specials were so good. Now his specials are mediocre to bad, and he has the worst footsies in the game. That's not a good place to be.
HELP
I was expecting a dash throw. Pretty much every Bison I've played have been doing that. Technically you should be able to jab him out of the dash but who knows...
Dash grab does work but I don't want to get in the habit of doing it because people will figure it out eventually. Try it on a max level CPU and you just get thrown out of the teleport every single time.
Karsticles
Member
Have you tried hitting him?
HELP
direct_quote
Member
Well it's just like Ken's v-skill grab. You have to put it out their periodically and mix it up.
How else am I getting crush countered?
Yes, it's possible to jab the dash but honestly, the st.HK comes out so damn fast that it's hard to react to. I might just start blocking and taking the throw if I have to. Better than taking a max damage crush counter combo.
For fuck's sake, had to wait 15 minutes to find a match again and when I finally do it's against another laggy-ass American who proceeds to spend the entire match teleporting all over the place, making the whole thing completely unplayable. What the fuck is the connection status option even for when I keep getting matches like this even when it's set to 4-5? Are there no other people playing the beta in Europe?
Capcom's matchmaking is utter garbage.
Capcom's matchmaking is utter garbage.
Simo
Member
oh for fuck's sake. I've been having mostly good connections this beta but this is by far the worst I've ever seen.
https://youtu.be/LSlmwGX1n4U
he turns on his lagswitch in round 2. I wouldn't even care but I was on a decent streak and at my highest LP yet.
Same here. Very solid connections with only 1 that was pretty bad but the other player messaged and apologized but...did I just get lag switched to hell and back here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMop0QZ5Hi4
My fight before this was flawless and this one started out fine but half way through the first round it went to shit and the opponent preferred to damage me enough to get the win via time limit. The second round it switches between both normal and shit but it usually goes to shit to go in his favor. lol
Against a lot of Bison's they've been spacing there scissors pretty well that it makes it scary to move forward and press a button. Then that opens up his dash mix-up which is pretty good and wouldn't even want to rely on my reactions to try and hit him because the chance of a crush counter is really high. Then there's things like devils reverse and knee stomp being better then people think they are. He's actually more offensive then I thought he'd be when he does get his hits.
Karsticles
Member
You're looking at about half a second to punish all of that. Normal reaction time is within a fourth once you're practiced.
Just Bison and FANG. If they gave me FANG now, I'd figure out whether I want to play him this weekend.
Looking forward to trying Akuma and Juri.
Nash, Karin, Ryu, Mika and Urien when he drops. Might try some more characters when I get a stick.
direct_quote
Member
Ken is the only person I plan on playing, kind of like him now. Nash felt too linear for me to continue using him and I got bored of him by beta 3. I will use Urien when he drops as well.
karin till juri comes out, might try picking up necalli for fun but overall the roster is kinda meh for me
I'll be sticking with Bison, but I really liked playing Birdie in past betas and he will definitely be my secondary character. So once I can practice at my own pace with him for a little bit I'll take him online again.
I'll give FANG a shot but not expecting much.
I am super looking forward to Alex as he is what got me into playing both grapplers and characters with charge moves. Urien I will definitely try out too.
I'll start off with my strongest beta characters, Birdie and Rashid. My thought process is that this is when the biggest wave of weak players will be, and therefore when I will be able to acquire the most fight money (for future unlocks). As it slows down, I'll spread my wings a bit.
Badmotorfinger
Member
I've noticed a lot of people playing Cammy, Ryu and Ken like its SF4. Its incredibly easy to punish such players in this game, im surprised.
And im not even good.
And im not even good.
Hmm...I'm going with Ryu, Birdie, Rashid, Fang and Necalli. Also going with Alex and Urien when they drop.
"God's Beard!"
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Karsticles
Member
I see this said a lot. What do you mean by it?
yeah this is also a good point. When SF4 came out I went on this massive ridiculous win streak on day 1 with Zangief doing pretty much nothing but lariats. It was all downhill from there.
Just FANG with Bison as backup. Then some Guile when he lands as DLC.
Better than me yesterday, I couldn't find a game waiting for 40mins. It was fine when the beta started.
lucebuce12
Member
"God's Beard!"
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I really need a stick. I lose a lot due to my fumbling around with the ps4 pad.
I want to buy a ps4 hitbox, but the whole firmware update thing frightens me.
I want to buy a ps4 hitbox, but the whole firmware update thing frightens me.