WSJ: Taiwan's Foxconn in exclusive meeting to acquire Sharp
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orientalNoodle
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Foxconn is taiwanese tho.
The Giant
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Yep.
hipbabboom
Huh? What did I say? Did I screw up again? :(
I guess it may no longer be the case but I thought most large Japanese corporations were cash-heavy and were the ones in the position to make foreign acquisitions.
Don't know much about this stuff though but I'm surprised that Japan with a growing nationalist-leaning government were/are(?) okay with this. I guess money heals all wounds?
Don't know much about this stuff though but I'm surprised that Japan with a growing nationalist-leaning government were/are(?) okay with this. I guess money heals all wounds?
Taiwan is also called the Republic of China.
I am not saying Taiwan is part of China, but calling them chinese is not exactly wrong.
juicyfruitas
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Taiwanese company =\= Chinese company
Mr. Pointy
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First Sharp, then Canada, then Newfoundland, then the world.
Atraveller
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Most of us don't like to be called Chinese tho.
Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, etc. also uses Foxconn to produce their devices.
Dreamgazer
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Please don't speak for the most of us.
Anecdotally, have yet to meet a single person from Taiwan who calls themselves Chinese or from China. They've always vehemently said they're Taiwanese or from Taiwan. Same goes for Hong Kong'ers, who often just say I'm from Hong Kong, or Asian.
Though this is inevitable. Just like the US purchased several British brands, and then a lot of Japanese brands purchased American ones, Chinese brands will probably purchase Japanese ones, but you'll also get even more Taiwanese, South Korean and even Indian corporations soon. This year alone, TCL of China was supposed to release its line of televisions from the old Sharp USA distribution. They'd already bought RCA before.
The statistics speak plainly on the matter:
http://www.aei.org/publication/chinese-check-forging-new-identities-hong-kong-taiwan-2/
Dreamgazer
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If asked if I identify as Taiwanese or Chinese, of course I would say Taiwanese.
That being said, I'm also aware of the fact that English speakers are referring to "Ethnic Chinese" when they say "Chinese" and not "person from China". So I wouldn't take offense as long as the person is aware.
Just as Terry Gou often refer to himself as "a Chinese in Taiwan". He is not necessarily referrimg to his political or self identification (granted, the man is probably on the unification side of the political spectrum.)
I think it is plain confusing that Chinese can mean a country, a race and a language. The English language should come up with better words than these.
nephilimdj
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Are they just trying to expand the business or is there any actual benefit?
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
I got bad news for you. Sony is not up there. It's Samsung, then nobody for a long time, then LG, then nobody for a long time and then Sony, Panasonic, Sharp and others.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/267095/global-market-share-of-lcd-tv-manufacturers/
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
(since this thread is already derailed....)
If I asked the question "is Taiwan part of China?" or "Is Taiwan part of Zhongguo 中国 / 中國?", would I get the same answer?
I guess I'm asking.... is "China" is an English word that has come to be associated with the PRC exclusively, and so would obviously be rejected by Taiwanese? Or is it that Taiwanese really do reject their association with their roots in 中国 / 中國 culture?
If I asked the question "is Taiwan part of China?" or "Is Taiwan part of Zhongguo 中国 / 中國?", would I get the same answer?
I guess I'm asking.... is "China" is an English word that has come to be associated with the PRC exclusively, and so would obviously be rejected by Taiwanese? Or is it that Taiwanese really do reject their association with their roots in 中国 / 中國 culture?
DonMigs85
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Yeah it's a shame, the Japanese companies fell victim to hubris and terrible mismanagement and mispredicting market trends. I wonder if the same may eventually happen to the chaebols.
Triplicates
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They made the offer, but the INCJ (a Japanese government backed fund) had a rival offer on the table. It wasn't clear which one would prevail until today.
Dreamgazer
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Instinctually, the answer for most Taiwanese is always going to be a "no", in regards to whether Taiwan (County) is part of China (Country.)
Why that is a "no" will depend on the person you ask, their political stance and how they interpret East-Asian history.
Overall though, the general stance is that Taiwan (regardless if you recognize the Republic of China or not) has not been governed or benefited from China (PRC) for over a 100 years now, so why should China (PRC) have any right in claiming Taiwan as part of itself. Alternatively, there's also the the ancient argument that Republic of China, 中華民國) is the real legit "China", and that China (People Republic of China, 中華人民共和國
is just an illegitimate government... (no one argue this anymore.)The thing to take note here is that when asked in a different manner, most Taiwanese do agree that they are of the Chinese Ethnic group (Zhonghua 中華民族
and appreciate the Chinese Culture (中華文化）:http://www.my-formosa.com/DOC_66344.htm
(I've picked the most politically neutral site possible.)
Note: If you make a survey asking if people identify as "Taiwan Ethnic Group" vs "Chinese Ethnic Group" the answer will surely differ, so make your own interpretations.
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And yes, the whole "Chinese" = everything Chinese related thing is annoying.
Example:
中華航空 = Taiwanese Airline = "China (ethnic group) Airlines" != China (PRC) Airline.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Thanks for the response. Of course I expected the answer is not cut and dry, but it gives some insight.Instinctually, the answer for most Taiwanese is always going to be a "no", in regards to whether Taiwan (County) is part of China (Country.)
Why that is a "no" will depend on the person you ask, their political stance and how they interpret East-Asian history.
Overall though, the general stance is that Taiwan (regardless if you recognize the Republic of China or not) has not been governed or benefited from China (PRC) for over a 100 years now, so why should China (PRC) have any right in claiming Taiwan as part of itself. Alternatively, there's also the the ancient argument that Republic of China, 中華民國) is the real legit "China", and that China (People Republic of China, 中華人民共和國
The thing to take note here is that when asked in a different manner, most Taiwanese do agree that they are of the Chinese Ethnic group (Zhonghua 中華民族
http://www.my-formosa.com/DOC_66344.htm
(I've picked the most politically neutral site possible.)
Note: If you make a survey asking if people identify as "Taiwan Ethnic Group" vs "Chinese Ethnic Group" the answer will surely differ, so make your own interpretations.
---------------------------
And yes, the whole "Chinese" = everything Chinese related thing is annoying.
Example:
中華航空 = Taiwanese Airline = "China (ethnic group) Airlines" != China (PRC) Airline.
Seems the fact of the manner is that many do consider Taiwan and China as distinct from one another as America and England are, despite shared origin.
I know that there is the fact that the Guomindang RoC gov can be considered by some to be the proper heir to China's government .. And the fact that Taiwanese people are by and large (respect to the indigenous Taiwan people's DNA) Han Chinese.
But I guess even being aware of those facts.. Taiwanese often consider themselves distinct from the whole China /Zhongguo/ 中国 / 中國 system. I get it.
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